log☇︎
91500+ entries in 0.057s
mircea_popescu: and then the decadents want to herp about colors and be "symbolists".
mircea_popescu: easier to work with, etcetera.
asciilifeform: a bedlam full of 'droolers' was not only aesthetically preferred by the bedlam-keepers of the time to one full of 'screamers', but also cheaper.
mircea_popescu: hanbot btw, the ^ is involved in the large discussion re "physical exhaustion / muscle toxin buildup causes depression".
mircea_popescu: and so, the modern little lysenkos have the united-soviet government convinced of their brand of nonsense ; much like the others.
asciilifeform: from that point the pharma thrust became 'how do we do this and still have usable factory etc slaves, rather than simply vegetables'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall reserpine, ~the~ 'advance' in early 20th c 'angry bull management', was touted 'clearing the bedlams' etc
mircea_popescu: obviously inca has no problem losing out the one thing that can sorta-maybe fix smart people in trouble. what it needs is something entirely else ; as everywhere else across the vast field of possibility.
mircea_popescu: there's some depth here : talk psychiatry works for intelligent people only, and even then dubiously ; chem psychiatry does not work, at all, except it does disorient. this is sufficient in some views, in the sense that humans can't distinguish dizzy cows from plain cows, and angry bulls are kinda scary. so it's the perfect "solution" to the problem of "unruly nigger". cheaper than the previous perfect solution (which was als
asciilifeform: ( the blizzard-offending thing, iirc , lived in soresforge, the shithub of its day )
asciilifeform: as with all good explanatory hypotheses, this one resolved several puzzlers in asciilifeform's head in one shot (e.g. 'why did the open-whatever folx accept being corralled into soresforge to begin with' )
mircea_popescu: sadly, he got to operate among the "pills work!!!" imbeciles, went on the bottle.
mircea_popescu: the dood was a talented talk-psych, good structure of thought in his head.
mircea_popescu: no, this is tlp's observation.
asciilifeform: 'accepting the form of argument but rejecting the conclusion' or how did mircea_popescu describe'em.
asciilifeform: iirc i asked ( on, laugh, slashdot ) re why there is not a 'warez p2p'-style replacement for soresforge , for pissing on bans etc. ( no prizes for guessing how many answers )
mircea_popescu: anyway, github is very much going the way of livehornal / slashdot.
asciilifeform: i still recall the 1st time i heard of an open sores thing being added to index librorum prohibitorum or whatever the derps call it nowadays. iirc was in early 2000s, some 'unauthorized' mud client, banned at the behest of blizzard co
mircea_popescu: you know that's exactly not how it'd work.
asciilifeform: would imho be great if this one actually happened, tho. picture, ban on shithub.
mircea_popescu: "those nameless idiots in siouxland are eating turd sandwiches, so we here in paris must therefore eat turd wellington!!11"
asciilifeform: euroreich is where they beta test new idiocy for usa, neh. e.g. taxes on blank cd-r, etc
mircea_popescu: europe is such a lulzy shithole these days. sorta like the whiplash of its erstwhile colonies.
asciilifeform: 'save linux' 'save the net' 'save rms' etc.
asciilifeform: modeled on the fsf agit crapola, really
mircea_popescu: "if we act like it matters then it almost does" ? how cute.
asciilifeform: it's more or less 100% lame agitprop similar to above , lately
mircea_popescu: yes, i have notices/dccs/whatever featurecreep they "updated" irc with turned off.
asciilifeform: '[Global Notice] On June 20th, the Legal Committee of the European Parliament will decide on a copyright reform that could radically change copyright laws throughout the EU and have an impact on open source software. If you're in the EU please see https://savetheinternet.info/ and https://blog.github.com/2018-03-14-eu-proposal-upload-filters-code/ for more information'
asciilifeform: oh ha mircea_popescu has fleanode spamola turned off on his console, doesn't he.
mircea_popescu: wow, you srsly follow their blog ?
asciilifeform: lulzy spam. 'would require code-sharing platforms to monitor all content that users upload for potential copyright infringement' etc.
mircea_popescu: lobbes wb. how long did the setup take ?
mircea_popescu: spyked unlike him, you actually have years to fuck.
asciilifeform: esthlos: 'forced trust' is a contradiction . ( but iirc mircea_popescu already described why )
asciilifeform: whether explicable by the phobia of 'oh noez some DH stats sometimes fail' or general-purpose idiocy -- i do not know.
asciilifeform: i find it mildly interesting ( tho entirely unsurprising ) that, year and a half after FUCKGOATS released, there still appears to be nobody else selling unwhitened trng.
asciilifeform: currently we have mod6 , danielpbarron , trinque , BingoBoingo , diana_coman , esthlos .
asciilifeform: ( if i missed somebody's, plox to write in ! )
asciilifeform: there are now 6 published FG tests ( afaik ) .
asciilifeform: esthlos: thank you for posting your tests, i have added your page to the FG tester links.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-15 02:13 mircea_popescu: this very much ~wasn't~ the first mention of bitcoin on trilema, there's earlier march http://trilema.com/2011/de-ce-trebuie-protejat-angajatul/#comment-43648 and april http://trilema.com/2011/guvernul-cu-rata-de-succes-33/#comment-47237 mentions by a fellow named gheorghe
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-15#1825614 <-- I wonder if dood is still tuned in (maybe read-only? I know I was for more than a coupla years). kinda enjoyed the conversations back in the day. ☝︎
lobbes: in other news, I've finally resurrected my blog. Now coming live from the blazingly fast pizarro rockchip >> http://blog.lobbesblog.com/
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-06-18 00:37 asciilifeform: meanwhile oh hey mircea_popescu time to reclaim yer rockchip ? ( you paid for it, iirc subscription is good through june )
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-6-18#381193 << could let teh customer manage his own, regardless do let me know if the machine in q starts misbehaving
asciilifeform: 'without this, nuffin makes any sense' or how it went
mircea_popescu: yeah, not much of a theory. theory in the sense theory of evolution is theory.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this theory was , afaik, pretty much as tested as anything could ever be, and stood. consider how su turned to old toiletpaper just as soon as the last ww2-hardened folx retired from running it
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the den, https://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6dx03ZOqI1qh1gdpo1_1280.jpg ; guess why it's even called a den.
mircea_popescu: same thing with inca soldiers and so on.
mircea_popescu: "risks to undercover agents", in every fucking manual/imperial discussion/whatever since the days of edgar hoover (who didn't permit it, btw, and for this reason) is specifically that exposure to violence renders slave incapable of "readjusting" to "normal" environment.
mircea_popescu: the reason wife exposure (as discussed in say http://trilema.com/2018/le-salaire-de-lidiotie/ ) WORKS is specifically because the harsher the world treats her, the more independent she gets.
mircea_popescu: think about it : nobody is more independent minded than street urchin. why not ? nobody's got more hard knocks.
mircea_popescu: violence actually works to resolve slavery.
esthlos: aha. so no ultimate threat of violence is needed in slave mind; the knowledge of inadequacy is enough to drive the submission? and then violence works to direct the submission?
mircea_popescu: in this context, "if you're going to trust implicitly, either trust the republic or it's the lime pits for you" is a direct continuation of "if you're going to believe in god, you'd better fucking believe i am that god", ie some minimal mental hygiene.
mircea_popescu: nobody buys an ipad because "otherwise they'll get shot by LAPD". they buy the ipad because "i am so fucking stupid, i literally can't tell the difference between this piece of shit and a working programmable machine".
mircea_popescu: nobody trusts implicitly "or else". idiots trust implicitly because they objectively lack the capacity for anything else, so it's a strict "either trust implicitly or not at all" dilemma they face.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, it's false to claim violence is usually the driver of submission. the slave's need to submit, or more specifically https://78.media.tumblr.com/d926fbf7f8b20c715946d9477fbbc555/tumblr_p85oiw4jb91x1qecto1_1280.jpg ; the slave's drastic incapacity, inadequacy and insufficiency are the driver.
mircea_popescu: esthlos the atempt to weave practical thought and ideology isn't even fruitless ; i believe the symmetry described is truthful and informative.
deedbot: http://blog.esthlos.com/fuckgoats-some-thoughts-and-minimal-tests/ << esthlos - FUCKGOATS: Some Thoughts and Minimal Tests
douchebag: mircea_popescu: The reason for the negrate wasn't exactly clear.
asciilifeform: so through aug 19
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ping BingoBoingo ( to plug the ssd into dulap ) and asciilifeform ( to work the magics ) if you want it relinuxed.
asciilifeform: technically the neg rule not even invoked in this case, as the subscriber is mircea_popescu ; he can do whatever he feels like with the thing.
asciilifeform: meanwhile oh hey mircea_popescu time to reclaim yer rockchip ? ( you paid for it, iirc subscription is good through june )
asciilifeform at one time could
mircea_popescu: who even knows, i can't distinguish the angled eyed.
BingoBoingo: Argentina drew to Iceland, Spain drew to Portual... Russia put up five points against the Saudis... If Uruguay can't break 12 against they Saudis what is they world coming to.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-17 17:38 mircea_popescu: anyway, nfi why thailand is famous for its ladyboys. they're a minority there, while united states consists of nothing but.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-17#1826235 << the thai, if one were to believe them, insist 'they're all cambodians' ☝︎
BingoBoingo: It'll probably still be a bore, but I will have seen the exception to 1-1 ties that proves the sport is a bore
BingoBoingo: I want to watch a double digit blowout
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> iirc saudis have one of the worst teams in the world. << This is the interest.
mircea_popescu: iirc saudis have one of the worst teams in the world.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'll even admit that it could be made an interesting sport, if, let's say, they armed the saudis with scimitars, the egyptians -- with that sickle thing; etc
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That's why it is 'the zone' he is packed and not loose
a111: Logged on 2018-06-17 17:36 hanbot: <asciilifeform> hanbot: that d00d is a riot. having trouble dispatching himself, in ameristan, where 300buxorz buys you a 'mossberg' << you know? but regularly checks himself into institutions, picks fights (where fights = crying and yelling across a parking lot) at "knights of columbus" meetings, of all fucking things, etc etc.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-17#1826233 << the asylums must be packed, if they let this specimen loose ☝︎
asciilifeform was off in the sunlit world, picking cherries with relatives
BingoBoingo: Absolutely awful. If I make it to my 70's I want to retire then in a baseball Latino country.
mircea_popescu: up there with golf, or male tenis i guess. who the fruck would want to ~watch~ this
a111: Logged on 2018-06-17 18:54 douchebag: mircea_popescu: I just got back, what was the exact reason I was negrated?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: here's where i admit that i also can't bring self to watch 1st 10. or for that matter, the in-between
mircea_popescu: it happened to be on screen @whorehouse earlier, but otherwise...
mircea_popescu: it's a terrible spectator sport.
BingoBoingo: Colombia plays tomorrow, but thus far Uruguay is the only South American team with a win.
BingoBoingo: But, I can't be arsed to watch anything other than the last 10 minutes of the games as they happen. I hear what I hear.
BingoBoingo: I am guessing they assumed more would follow?
BingoBoingo: Before the game tied, Brazil scored their goal. For that on goal about a theird of the way into game time the handful of Brazillians for more audible for more time.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i can't imagine why, they 1-1'd with switzerland.
BingoBoingo: In other news, Mexico whooped Germany and the few Brazillians here are substantially louder and more excited than the Uruguayos were
douchebag: mircea_popescu: I just got back, what was the exact reason I was negrated? ☟︎☟︎
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/06/south-koreans-admit-racist-treachery-in-lead-up-to-world-cup-play/ << Qntra - South Koreans Admit Racist Treachery In Lead Up To World Cup Play
BingoBoingo: Ah, the classic GirlyMen
hanbot: afaik because in thailand the ladyboys work at it, diligently and purposefully. where as Joe vonCan'tStackIt here prolly goes around in lumberjack plaids religiously checking the "M" box
mircea_popescu: anyway, nfi why thailand is famous for its ladyboys. they're a minority there, while united states consists of nothing but. ☟︎
hanbot: <asciilifeform> hanbot: that d00d is a riot. having trouble dispatching himself, in ameristan, where 300buxorz buys you a 'mossberg' << you know? but regularly checks himself into institutions, picks fights (where fights = crying and yelling across a parking lot) at "knights of columbus" meetings, of all fucking things, etc etc. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: so... win-win, as they say.