asciilifeform: ^ another set of folx who were late-comers to mechanical civilization

asciilifeform wonders what japanese encyclopaedias looked like

asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu nails it, encyclopaedia is made to be a kind of standards document, for what a cultured man is expected to be aware of

asciilifeform: ( not as if every item in большая советская энциклопедия were dead on accurate!! )

asciilifeform: much less chukcha.

asciilifeform: hence asciilifeform's barf re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-14#1655928 . asciilifeform does not want to live among zulu. ☝︎

asciilifeform: but important point -- without it , you are a zulu. regardless of what else you might have.

asciilifeform: well yes

asciilifeform: general-purpose intro to being a thinking man

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aside from 'which savages there exist for you to enslave when you grow up', encyclopaedia had, e.g., which engines exist, what burns in them, how newton tried to make piston work on gunpowder, etc,etc

asciilifeform: asciilifeform had a 1958 'britannica', made in usa, that he fished out of a dumpster as a boy. it was superb, as far as encyclopaedia goes, about on par with famous большая советская энциклопедия . but today it lives packed in a crate. ☟︎

asciilifeform: a kind of intellectual fast-food.

asciilifeform has often wondered if encyclopaedias, even in the golden age of same (1950s, perhaps) , were useful other than for letting a bright kid know 'approximately what exists' . to adult they served largely same purpose as pediwikia today - 'pulling feeling-knowledgeable cock'

asciilifeform: apres moi le deluge (tm)(r)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has an old article about a giant crushing chairs, etc

asciilifeform: just as britney ~prevents music, etc.

asciilifeform: ( from existing at all )

asciilifeform: the moar interesting attribute of pediwikia is its ability to prevent actual encyclopaedias.

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: ran when parked << lol

asciilifeform: until Correct Result aha

asciilifeform: while(!result){vote();} is the established classic algo of eu

asciilifeform: snorematic

asciilifeform: ( would be a pretty great engine if somehow rotor were coupled ONLY magnetically to outside, and in fact part of a generator )

asciilifeform: and never was solved.

asciilifeform: the interface with the shaft, iirc, is the weak point

asciilifeform: ( has, of course, nfi re konsoomer jet having 0 afterburner )

asciilifeform: re flames, first time i ever rode in a jet, as a boy, was Very Disappoint to see 0 flames coming out of engine

asciilifeform: rx7 even.

asciilifeform: for bitcoin, no less

asciilifeform: i almost bought a wankel car once ☟︎

asciilifeform: srsly perplexing example of 'lost tech'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall the electrolytic machining thread ?

asciilifeform: not so much for 3d

asciilifeform: photo-lithography worx great for flat objects

asciilifeform: and yes - turbine is probably the most well-known example of recent qualitative jumps in what can be made, from advance in metalworking

asciilifeform: demo, in qty 1, it was hyped in '90s iirc

asciilifeform: somebody actually built a laptop-powering gas turbine iirc.

asciilifeform: interestingly, pulse jet ( yes, of german 'v1' ) miniaturizes well

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: e.g. nitromethane

asciilifeform: model engines are a funny thing, use interesting fuels

asciilifeform: but do ask the rocketeers how great pure o2 is to have around. corrosive, explosive.

asciilifeform: at any rate could work at sea

asciilifeform: and how much engine will weigh ?

asciilifeform pictures tungsten engine block

asciilifeform: and out of what would you make the combustor.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how'd that work ? zeolite ?

asciilifeform: ( no pistons, no misfires, run on anything that burns... )

asciilifeform: because that would be massively neat

asciilifeform: hey i was half convinced that i slept for 20yrs and mircea_popescu was about to show me a proper gas turbine auto, lol

asciilifeform: noshit.jpg

asciilifeform: ( so folx in petro business can sell it, instead of flaring it )

asciilifeform: incidentally 'hey, we have a pile of shit' is how we got he light petrol auto to begin with

asciilifeform: aha, the lappy battery

asciilifeform: opposing-piston thing

asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu linked once to an interesting example of this

asciilifeform: ( expensive to make, or vibrate, say, to early grave, or , or )

asciilifeform: some engine sound great on paper, but painful in practice ☟︎

asciilifeform: possibly ben_vulpes knows.

asciilifeform: why not caught on, i wonder

asciilifeform: looks like it was made in example of 1 .

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ^

asciilifeform: could burn liquishit, i bet

asciilifeform: abrams, for instance, runs on just about any flammable liquid

asciilifeform: would be spiffy

asciilifeform pictures harvester with gas turbine

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: harvester , say

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: workings of stock meat are not a technology

asciilifeform: yes but engine still turns for a few hrs in a human auto, vs weeks at, say, sea

asciilifeform: i always wondered if this is intrinsic to the tech, or just american stupidity

asciilifeform: btw abrams illustrated a certain minus of proper (1 moving part, gas turns shaft) turbine : high revv-up cost

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform finally sees at least where mircea_popescu got the idea.

asciilifeform: theoretically. but if you go to auto dealer and ask for turbine engine, a very confused d00d may or may not sell you an abrams..

asciilifeform: (was original thread)

asciilifeform: how to do transmission is separate q from engine

asciilifeform: at least on the planet i'm posting from

asciilifeform: the part which is moved by expanding gas, in a combustion engine, is the one of interest re 'which type of engine'

asciilifeform: of the O2, for the stoichiometric mix - provides. force, nope

asciilifeform: but in your supercharged bugati, pistons provide the motive force, not hot gas turning turbine

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by same token as your reasoning above, my comp is a turbine engine ( has turbine fan in it , hey )

asciilifeform: but if mircea_popescu direly wants to drive a land vehicle with actual turbine engine - there is at least one ! : abrams tank.

asciilifeform: srsly are we having the '2-cycle diesels' thread again ?

asciilifeform: because they are wholly different items ??

asciilifeform: turbocharged piston engine is own, ww2-era item

asciilifeform: where 1 moving part

asciilifeform: but is not a turbine engine

asciilifeform: turbochargers are found in many high end auto ( iirc ben_vulpes had one )

asciilifeform pictures auto with subj !

asciilifeform: that looks like a naval engine, mircea_popescu

asciilifeform: ( betcha it was in aston martin or the like... )

asciilifeform: maybe meanwhile mircea_popescu will also find hybrid turbine. i'd like one

asciilifeform goes to read, update re 'did it ever work'

asciilifeform: that's moar like it

asciilifeform: which yes, means that penicillin was not yet a result back when it was curing that one brit policeman.

asciilifeform: regardless of how made.

asciilifeform: i'll point out that a 'onesie' ('apricots cured mr smith!') is ~not~ a clinical result.

asciilifeform: project much ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gonna link to a commercial turbine hybrid ? or somehing other than video with some chick re embryo cell ?

asciilifeform: ( though , unlike locklin, i will not rule out wreckers as the explanation )