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gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: email? I have a name and address I can use right now if you're willing to forego the key. Else, waiting.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: there's a crate here with gabriel_laddel's name on it...
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: got a mailbox yet ?
mircea_popescu: felipelalli it's not a matter of me hiding them ; really look into getting a znc instrance, it's 10 bux a yeart or somesuch
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 02:37 gabriel_laddel: We'd previously discussed all the time wasted on 'backends', he agreed that we should get rid of them etc etc, and then a little bit of money shows up and BAM, he's happy to entertain any number of idiots trying to 'modernize' McCLIM
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-23#1527264 << geeks have no backbone, news at 11. there's some that are stubborn and a few more that are ambitious ; but neither of these qualifies. ☝︎
gabriel_laddel: We'd previously discussed all the time wasted on 'backends', he agreed that we should get rid of them etc etc, and then a little bit of money shows up and BAM, he's happy to entertain any number of idiots trying to 'modernize' McCLIM ☟︎
asciilifeform: somebody buy the fella a new modem ??
asciilifeform: on a typical day.
phf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2TTylnS6QM "~normally~ you're going to make it in a bag like that"
shinohai: You know, there is a sense of accomplishment that comes from actually getting a story about ramen published in Qntra.
mircea_popescu: kinda what tucker max is known for, really. notwithstanding various attempts to market self since, essentially it's "im this dude who scammed a bunch of lawyers astroturfing social media"
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I'm pretty sure the definition of Fratire is older than the Tucker Max one by decades. Maybe even a whole century.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-10 15:16 asciilifeform: incidentally, a Useful Product Idea, plug-in replacement guidance module for popular flying toys, to pick arbitrary quiet frequency spread in a reasonably broad swatch of spectrum, when remote is paired with toy, rather than the current 'legal' jammable idiocy.
asciilifeform: in other 'olds', material pertinent to http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-10#1517688 thread, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X27-2WDIZR0 (gold in the comments, 'Seems like a nice tool to capture exotic and endangered birds for my Black Market sales.') ☝︎
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Fratire (2) A clothing style favored by "preppy" folk. Combination of Fraternity and Attire.
pete_dushenski: ""Fratire" is a type of 21st-century fiction literature written for and marketed to young men in a politically incorrect and overtly masculine fashion. The term was coined following the popularity of works by George Ouzounian (writing under the pen name Maddox) and Tucker Max." << o.O
asciilifeform: 'Aboriginal Linux is a shell script that builds the smallest/simplest linux system capable of rebuilding itself from source code. This currently requires seven packages ...'
asciilifeform isn't working from a scripture and labours under the handicap of occasionally being convinced by other folks of sumthing
phf: dating is the same kind of sorting as choosing between coke and pepsi at a grocery store
BingoBoingo: Nah pre-dating is rought sorting. Dating is a finer sort of sorting.
BingoBoingo: Nah, dating is a sort of sorting.
phf: didn't danielpbarron made a point a few times that one is not to seek a wife
asciilifeform: recall when a cpu was a ceramic brick with gold-plated machine screw trunk sticking out of it ?
phf: shit, i had a store bought compaq 486, which had ~solid frame~. not bolix, but somewhere there
asciilifeform: weighed approx. what a standard girl per mircea_popescu does.
asciilifeform: it was a marvel of iron cages and emp shields etc.
asciilifeform: when i was a sad student and pinched pennies to buy lispm parts, then much later the machine, i did not yet realize that turning the physical object into an emulator would take 20 yrs that i dun have.
phf: but no it's just a special kind of mindset, i don't know how to else call it but people who are into "retrohardware". there's a pecking order there between "i have an amiga and a macintosh" and "i have a vax, a pdp, a ..."
asciilifeform: not only a thing, but helped to nail lispm with 'good enuff' on the high end market.
phf: vax lisp is a thing :p
asciilifeform: and i hear 'cray II' made a killer sofa.
phf: right, so vax goes for a fraction of the cost. still same guy who put me in touch with dks, and spends 5k on each bolix, will spend fraction of that on a vax, because "it ain't bolix of course, but it's still cool"
asciilifeform: not really comparable to a vax imho.
asciilifeform: phf: the bolix was a special, really, case
phf: asciilifeform: there's a massive hobbyist market. well to do corporate programmers spending monthly paychecks on retrohardware. when i was buying my xl1201, i was bidding against a guy, who's been doing a tech lead thing since the 90s (an unbearably aspy fellow). he said that he was so pissed he didn't get it, he put a 12k starting bid on the next one and still got it for around 6k
phf: and you have a pocketful of those 60s amphetamines, so you can hit every diner from chicago to springfield in 3 days, and then come back knowing exactly which one has the best milkshake
phf: and gass is 20c a gallon
phf: ben_vulpes: it's only worthwhile when it comes with a voluptuous russ meyer blond bimbo
ben_vulpes: kinda want one of those hilariously garish 2-door caddies in a matte pink
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i think the krebs thing may be my 1st time hearing of the vendor outside of a spamogram.
asciilifeform: 'Linux Kernel panics when using an OHCI controller if a USB device reports being a generic HID keyboard and reports a wMaxPacketSize of over 4095. The OHCI controller driver fails to reserve bandwidth for the device, causing the keyboard handler to fail when attaching to the HID. Later, when the device is removed, the system crashes due to a null pointer dereference in a linked list of endpoint descriptors.'
mircea_popescu: a here we go.
phf: ben_vulpes: that's what you get for installing >10.9. i tried it one a company machine, took ~~2 hours. fresh install, ssd. insanity.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i have nfi why a usg organ in good standing needs 'attack' << Innocence washing
asciilifeform: i have nfi why a usg organ in good standing needs 'attack'
mircea_popescu: looks like a rather shaping attack of some kind.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: not redditola, there was a bikeportland.org link
BingoBoingo: Oh, well why did you not write it up and why would he be lynched for doing a pubic service?
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: There's prolly a way to rewrite what you submitted to news it up, but as you presented it it wasn't news. Maybe a "look how unlucky this guy is" angle would help? All those misfortunes may very well involve malice on the part of persons other than him. Such an angle could be very newsy.
asciilifeform: note that i no longer intend to use mpi for anything. it was posted as a deautomakeification demo.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Qntra pointedly tells republic news to the outside, BUT znort does not at this time have a relation to anyone I know such that his signature carries more weight than rando unsigned pastebins
asciilifeform: if anyone finds something resembling a reasonable unix box this WON'T build on by simply running 'make', PLEASE let me know!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-22#1526916 << "advertise and filter" is a fucking tall order to do right. ☝︎
phf: you're gonna like this guy. he's all right. he's a good fella. he's one of us.
asciilifeform: phf: the 'grabs a broom and a bucket and cleans it' incidentally is more or less the story of my 1st year of trb.
phf: class living" etc. anyway, guy arrives goes to toilet, comes out, grabs a broom and a bucket and cleans it. the moral is tediously obvious (it's a fucking liverjournal story), but it stuck with me. living in orcland is kind of like that
phf: i like that story i read on livejournal long time ago. this soviet guy was telling, so he's sent to forced farming на посевы, bunch of guys digging for potatoes, middle of fucking nowhere. and then there's news, some deposed aristocrat is sent to join, so naturally jokes all around, since the toilet is a mess (it's a bunch of guys!) "how's his excellency going to use the facilities справлять нужду" "probably unaccustomed to working
asciilifeform: there is such a thing as minimal hygienic standard.
asciilifeform: when i move into a house, demanding 'yes this place WILL have a toilet or no deal' != 'i just want to!'
phf: i'm just hoping nobody's going to do a fundraiser for it. thank god gabriel_laddel hasn't discovered it yet
phf: asciilifeform: nobody's asking you, this is for people who want a fixer-upper. you don't want to use cmucl either, because it's half baked. it does feel just a tad "i just want to", but i can't necessarily fault you for it
asciilifeform: phf: if we discover that the only way to have a usably snappy clim is custom iron, i am willing to consider custom iron.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Thing is more gossip than news. What happened? There may be a way to rewrite it into news, but it is still early this morning.
asciilifeform: and if i wanted to use a gui where i can sit and WATCH IT REDRAW, i will use microshit word.
asciilifeform: i won't use a gui that ignores mouse wheel.
asciilifeform: a reasonable dev box for 'modern' bloatrocities contains at least 32G.
phf: come to think of me my laptop runs without swap, because i mucked with write permissions on mac os x's swap file, but it's not ever a problem at 16gb
asciilifeform: shinohai: you are on what, a 486 with 8M ?
shinohai: You can't even build prb without setting a swap space. Or at least I haven't been successful yet.
asciilifeform: i can see using swap on a 486 with 8M, where it makes the diff between being able to load emacs and not.
mircea_popescu: aha. make a swap.
asciilifeform: fwiw i have yet to see postgres crash. but there is always a time for a first.
phf: oh i think maybe it's a memory issue :D i'm running it on a $5 512mb instance
asciilifeform: now we need a vintage mysql..?
mircea_popescu: not that there aren't a precious few competent folk out there. but they suffer a heavy demographic burden in the form of idiot us sucking them in to "build companies" and go to conferences and waste their lives for belonging&jam-tomorrow ; and the rest are fucking busy raping nsa and such.
phf: speaking of wordpress, mysql keeps consistently crashing. i don't think i've had a unix daemon crash on me in the recent memory, this is a first
mircea_popescu: nah, the reason for that is because they find you from google, or equiv, which is an approximation of "what a human would think interesting"
mircea_popescu: a small fraction will do the more nefarious bit of hosting pharma / child porn / whatever pages to link from OTHER wordpress / email blasts.
asciilifeform: (somehow a box without wordpress is unthinkable to these folk.)
phf: a whole bunch of coherent, but bogus urls. with spaces, ? & in wrong places, etc.
mircea_popescu: phf they prolly put you behind cloudflare/homebrewed equivalent as a service or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the only thing i can think re "digitalocean" is that place in the pacific where there's a trillion little bits of plastic, ground down by wind and sun over the decades.
phf: dat latency, digitalocean has been running on a generator and a modem past few days i think
asciilifeform: phf: interestingly, it was 404 for about half a minute.
phf: diana_coman: i think i didn't say enough on the subject. the core of what i did in order to get it to build on mac os x is fix autoconf scripts, if i revisit mac os x build in a couple of weeks, i'll try and provide a portable patch
asciilifeform: and it took a german to arrive at something like an actual solution (sync gear for the gun bolt)
mircea_popescu: i don't necessarily dispute that he THOUGHT about it for many years. but there's a profound difference between these two things. psychological first of all.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has a point, if shitoshi had ~modelled~ anything, he may well have junked the whole thing and - not necessarily published anything at all.
mircea_popescu: you srsly think this was modelled worth a crap in 2009 ?
mircea_popescu: (which, incidentally, is an antipattern of software irl that's very fucking often visible. tech wants to do a "Stupid" thing for a stupid reason ; management lets them for an entirely different reason)
mircea_popescu: best i can discern two things : 1) derp wanted to discourage old coinbases accumulating (had intuition about the blockchain bloat didn't want to address or know how to) ; 2) fees would have been HUGE early on without this, as in, "fuck you, you wanna transact it's 50 cents. i dun care your 1k btc is enough for a pizza slice ie 2 bux"
asciilifeform: (incidentally, it was never wholly clear to me why 0fee tx was ever a thing.)
mircea_popescu: yes, the proposition that "sane answer" === "i made a mistake" necessarily implies that as a precursor.
mircea_popescu: i'd guess a and esp b should be obvious. if they aren't obvious, the problem is almost certainly not what's stated.
mircea_popescu: hat i'd do such a thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a) yes i do "manual payments" ; this however does not mean i create the txn by hand. i'd think this'd be obvious ; b) any and all, this and all sorts of other resources are used to establish things about the network. i am, for the record, THE FIRST, and also for years THE ONLY both systematically sending txnfees "not needed" and pushing for others to do so. it is utterly not because i'm trying to shave pennies t
jurov: "i made a mistake"
asciilifeform: i'd rather like to know what it is that is actually bothering jurov. (could hazard a guess, but would rather not)
mircea_popescu: do that and let them starve, it'll count as a job well done.