asciilifeform: but we dun have one.

asciilifeform: and yes in 'proper comp' code would be stored as an ast, and not as ascii linear turd.

asciilifeform: this is EXACTLY the tab-sizes thread with mircea_popescu from year ago.

asciilifeform: and the vdiff becomes unreadable.

asciilifeform: if it does, that's a diff-creating operation

asciilifeform: poorly chosen example

asciilifeform: (on a bad day!)

asciilifeform: and i usedto be an asm programmer, 20 columns is all i needed, lol

asciilifeform: it is very easy to prescribe that pilot's yoke should be shaped like pair of tits, if you are not and not at any risk of working as pilot.

asciilifeform: even if he has 64 parallel-operating 12 metre cocks.

asciilifeform: i'ma ignore this nonsense coming from a fella who doesn't program.

asciilifeform: tell me where i can buy an ips lcd that gives more than 80 reasonably sized fixedwidthchars when turned to god's proper orientation (vertical) and i'll buy.

asciilifeform: and i won;t.

asciilifeform: if yours is 120col and mine is 80, now you are demanding that i horizontalscroll.

asciilifeform: not physically possible.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in this we agree. but how big is the viewport ?

asciilifeform: python, say, or fortran, will not even build if you lose indent

asciilifeform: (indentation MUST remain as author put it )

asciilifeform: which is the only sane way to read lisps

asciilifeform: for another, it fucks up indentation

asciilifeform: ( in a macro def, say )

asciilifeform: well for one thing, it ain't valid, in , say , c

asciilifeform: nope.

asciilifeform: and likewise will not edit code in nano or any similar.

asciilifeform: nobody can ever make me. everyone can go and pound sand.

asciilifeform: I WON'T HORIZONTALSCROLL

asciilifeform: it is quite considerably easier to s/\n\n/\r\r/ s/\n// s/\r/\n/ --- than to put'em back IN

asciilifeform: think of line breaks as a comment.

asciilifeform: those of us who aren't mircea_popescu and have to clean own piles of shit, or they DON'T GET CLEANED, might disagree.

asciilifeform: so that i can print it on dotmatrix printer.

asciilifeform: fact. there is not a proggy that will intelligently, cleanly, break lines of code in every known lang ☟︎

asciilifeform: the number of displaytrons that exist, that can do this, is 0.

asciilifeform: there is not even necessarily a correct place to break it.

asciilifeform: not if it's a line of code, it aint

asciilifeform: which also dunwork.

asciilifeform: the alternative to mid-word idiotbreaks is 'dwim' attempt

asciilifeform: where line breaks.

asciilifeform: CONTROL over where paragraph breaks

asciilifeform: i disagree

asciilifeform: or hm nm, not same problem

asciilifeform: 'dos2unix' also worx

asciilifeform: ( i'd guess even the furnace stokers at microshit grasp that the entire operation is very little more than a factory for nsa pwnholes )

asciilifeform: playing a rape scene for camera.

asciilifeform: meanwhile, microshit fud agency working overtime, https://archive.is/Hd2S6 >> 'Microsoft has criticized the NSA for their major role in spreading the WannaCry ransomware epidemic which paralyzed hundreds of thousands of computers worldwide. The tech giant urged governments to use and store their cyber warfare tools responsibly.'

asciilifeform: apparently it isn't contained.

asciilifeform: against a 0 balance, even.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not in this reich, it ain't. bank can unplug whoever. and charge $maxint, say, if it wants.

asciilifeform: сберкасса.

asciilifeform: not as if 'free world' 'bank' were a private org. rather than a crown organ where plebe is to put his meager savings for ease of requisitioning.

asciilifeform: ( what it did , is to prop up 10,001 previously unknown scamolade service where you get 'shared office' )

asciilifeform: they do require a postal addr that isn't a box, lulzily

asciilifeform: tru!! they do not

asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/x3RZM >> 'The Allianz Deutscher Demokraten (ADD), a political party in Germany founded by Turkish-Germans, has faced another obstacle after their bank account was shut down for the fourth time for no reason.'

asciilifeform: now it only if it also retained same readability !

asciilifeform: lolyeah

asciilifeform: well so's scanning, by same token

asciilifeform: but it's a whole-day chore ( if done correctly ) with current tech. so ~nobody bothers.

asciilifeform: i'll grudgingly agree with the folx who remind that the correct thing to do with a rare b00k is to scan it, not to hoard it like koschei's treasures

asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform associates the practice with mircea_popescu , he had never met anyone else, afaik, who did it )

asciilifeform: woah -- mircea_popescu stopped leasing furniture?!

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they end up with 20k tomes and get laughed at by mircea_popescu for 'hoarding dead tree'

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the monkey house, https://archive.is/LS3sn >> 'And by the way, I think we can successfully make Zcash too traceable for criminals like WannaCry, but still completely private & fungible' -- zooko (perpetrator of subj scamcoin)

asciilifeform: aha!

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: send a gurl to library with a minox ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no 13337w4r3zscan seems to exist, aha

asciilifeform: in theory was to give a less stupid elsewhere in mechanism.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was !

asciilifeform dug garden, trimmed trees, changed lanterns, brb, horizontal

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-14#1656035 << do say moar, trinque ☝︎

asciilifeform: yeah i remember that mircea_popescu has forsaken paper -- he is ready for space launch.

asciilifeform: ( i can put up with one headache, or the other, but not both )

asciilifeform: and additionally english is yuck

asciilifeform: the formatting is yuck

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw i like paper and generally avoid gutenberg when possible

asciilifeform: imho it is a style-crosses-into-substance

asciilifeform: was about megapatches that mangle 25 subsystems at once

asciilifeform: i disagree that it was about 'style'

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-14#1656068 << waiwat, who?! ☝︎

asciilifeform: gutenberg download counts do.

asciilifeform: dunno that you get modem in solitary. or there'd be a queue to sit.

asciilifeform: followed the apparently inevitable curve of 'the a-students hire the b-students who hire the c-students who ...'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also of interest was the discussion of the slow ~debasement~ of seppuku -- first the introduction of 'kaishaku' or beheader-secondant himself; then later the earlier and earlier finishing stroke, with scarcely any cuts; then the disappearance even of the knife, and replacement with substitutes (fan, pen, etc) for 'token' performance

asciilifeform: out of print since 1960s also, iirc.

asciilifeform: megatonnes of liquishit of every description; the 1 good survey of a subject in english - nodice

asciilifeform tries, fails to find any scan of the mega-b00k (it is small - 100pg) on www.

asciilifeform: and average american stomps >1 cockroaches before dying of boredom

asciilifeform: seppuku per se was the cherry on that particular cake, and quite integral part of the scheme.

asciilifeform: seppuku-era jp is quite interesting to asciilifeform because it , you could say, took mircea_popescu's 'people-going-their-own-way-is-retarded' knob and ran with it, turned 'to eleven'

asciilifeform: many interesting details re particulars of the procedure also ( not of the physical aspects, these are well known - but of humint prepwork prior to ordering a seppukation - gotta make sure the 'star' of the show doesn't bolt )

asciilifeform: also apparently bakufu (shogunate) government had serious problem with 'my commander died, now i will seppuku', and tried to suppress it ( subordinate belongs serving the old master's son, what a waste ) but repeatedly failed.

asciilifeform: e.g., seppuku by a subordinate so as to help his commander prep for own seppuku

asciilifeform: but even more interesting pretexts existed

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: ( note for n00bz -- most seppuku was carried out on command from superior )

asciilifeform: seppuku was not about picturesque way to cash in yer chips, but part of a system.

asciilifeform: modern worshippers of, e.g., zeus, sum to ~0

asciilifeform: well yes, like every other attempt to revive wholly dead cultures

asciilifeform: unrelated. perennial interest of asciilifeform's

asciilifeform: by one j. seward

asciilifeform: re bushido, asciilifeform just read a marvelous treatise on seppuku, the only one afaik of its kind in english