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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: was any of this a thing on your side of the ocean ?
phf: i remember that aston martin one it was a much coveted item because of the cyberpunk lady http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/6pAAAOSwZ8ZW2yJW/s-l1600.jpg in fact i remember half of these.
mircea_popescu: nah. the original colored coins was a "let's do mpex over bitcoin network because mp is something you can replace by a napkin sketch of a protocol"
asciilifeform: i see 'coloured coin' as a fundamentally distinct type of chumpatron, 'let's monetize blue Turbo chewing gum wrappers!1111' 'and oh btw i totally don't have a shoebox full of blue'
mircea_popescu: THEN came up with idea of lottery, to repay full value for the serials took from a hat.
asciilifeform: i personally played with massive shoebox of rubles as a boy, and buncha other folk here also.
phf: try buying a $1000 bill for less than $1700
mircea_popescu: though it should not happen prior to 2018, i expect a lot of dao-lolz coming out of what's fundamentally a middling design.
mircea_popescu: heck, we might even implement sidechains of whatever fashionable flavour of the month, as a bold-on, if anyone's bored enough.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'segwit' thing is, as i understand, intended as a protocol hardfork - to isolate trb users.
asciilifeform: node operation, in the present implementation of the braindamage, is almost a 'religious' act
mircea_popescu: given the dilemma of http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/ the choice was to find a solution that doesn't brick extant miners. understandably.
mircea_popescu: the other side of "segwit" is that there will NEVER be a block size increase. period and full stop.
asciilifeform: if it's in a block.
ben_vulpes: more tragically, do you know how many social media mommies think that 20 likes on instagram trump 3 girlfriends who'll come over and hold their kid while the smm sobs over a lost parent?
mircea_popescu: do you know how many people think they have "money in the bank", a la http://trilema.com/2013/time-for-europe-to-repeal-the-us-backed-aml-crap/ ?
mircea_popescu: there's no end to the human capacity for self delusion - which is fundamentally the point of our discussion coupla days ago. you can't have a protocol that keeps people from being stupid.
mircea_popescu: there's also people who imagine they "have a voice" ; or "social media power" or whatnot.
asciilifeform: there will (and perhaps already are) a multitude of chumpers who believe they have X btc, while really they have some quantity Q, possible 0, of actual btc, and X-Q of gavinola, which consists of tx, somehow elaborately processed, that trb rejects as noise, and display as wtf 'shot into the sun' crapolade in any civilized block viewer
mircea_popescu: sure, this will prolly "be implemented" ; then some idiots will "use it" ; then we'll get some "oh mp is a scammer because i sent him 5 btc he's not recognizing" threads on reddit.
asciilifeform: it isn't even a wholly ineffectual tool - worked on, e.g., linux.
asciilifeform: which is naturally a coveted wet dream of the enemy, retconning blocks.
asciilifeform: re the 'crowbars' from earlier, we have a 'This BIP defines a new witness program type that uses a Merkle tree to encode mutually exclusive branches in a script. This enables complicated redemption conditions that are currently not possible, improves privacy by hiding unexecuted scripts, and allows inclusion of non-consensus enforced data with very low or no additional cost.'
asciilifeform: the contractors live off-campus, working out of, e.g., raytheon, grumman, lockheed, and a bunch of 'small minority-owned businesses' (tm), and generally specialize in 'tools', rather than particular ops
asciilifeform: and naturally a full platoon administrative, 'diverse veteran-hire' barn animals for each of these folk.
asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's 'seeeekrit evidential' sources, there are ~300 men, plus several thou 'contractors', of which perhaps 1 in 10 is a trojan writer in the usual sense, and the rest '0day finder' monkeys, operations 'trigger pullers', and similar.
mircea_popescu: a dozen people (if that) carry on their "very reasonably engineered" with flecks of "right thing" a la mmap shoulders THOUSANDS of fucking social media monkeys and assorted barn animals ; they see a paltry few thousands out of the BILLIONS this shitfest burns each year ; and they don't even have good parking spaces.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the leaked widgets give a pretty good impression of the production quality, actually
asciilifeform: linked item largely a snore.
BingoBoingo: Or you make a case for news
asciilifeform: 'BLATSTING's implementers are a big fan of mmap. It seems to be used for all file access, not just for manipulating kernel memory through `/dev/mem`. Is it done this way to reduce the number of system calls, to be less conspicious, as well as not reveal what exactly is accessed when running in `strace`? Or maybe a later stage of the rootkit blocks certain kinds of syscalls on certain "hidden" files.'
asciilifeform: ' If ever there were a situation crying out for a smart contract - this is it.' ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'Given the contentious situation we are living it is just my opinion that laanwj has the moral obligation to give the keys back to Gavin. Satoshi can be considered a person who passed away and last will was to have Gavin in control.'
asciilifeform: a full frontal attack against the total issue cap would've been laughably stupid, so they will try ~every other possible angle.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: No. Miners already were looking for those situations to collect fees. This is just dump a bunch of unnecessary turdcode on the masses
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I don't think there was a time since I came into communion with the proto-republic where it wasn't the case.
asciilifeform: 'parent for child' gives usg a new place to spend the waterfall - as subsidies for 'expediting' Officially Blessed tx.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah, been a while.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform back before they got smushed on eth, when they thought they got money and a voice ? yeah, i remember.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo for a year or more.,
mircea_popescu: basically prb is trying to act as a sort of bitcoin mining code repository ; some of the miners contribute some of the less critical code and well... github.
mircea_popescu: PeterL what's contemplated here is a) miner's internal kitchen, which he's allowed to do on the grounds of having paid for the gear ; b) not substantially different, you can just regard the two txn as one, provided you know about both.
PeterL: am I correct that we (specifically asciilifeform) decided that a transaction should not be accepted/relayed if its parents are not already in a block?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> is there some rule that "experts" in anglosphere must be ludicrously inept at their chosen expertise, as per their own lights ? << Yes, if every "expert" sucks then tournament market doesn't need a very sweet pot for the winrar.
mircea_popescu: note that this is hardly a change in any sense.
asciilifeform: 'This incentivization scheme is often called Child Pays For Parent (CPFP). In the simplest version, miners group a transaction and all of its ancestors together, calculating their total fee-per-byte in order to determine whether mining them together pays a high enough fee to outbid other individual transactions the miner wants to include in its next block.' << ain't that O(N^2) ?
asciilifeform: and let's also introduce a new lulzvector! -- 'There’s no need for the node to receive the transaction a second time if it still has the first copy. Compact block relay (BIP152) can eliminate this redundancy by allowing a node to receive from its peers an ordered list of what transactions are included in a new block. With this knowledge, the node can use the transactions it has already received to partly or fully reconstruct the tr
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 13:54 shinohai: mircea_popescu , I am rather disappoint that not a single person has responded to generous Eulora offer.
asciilifeform: ... and i got a bridge to sell.
thestringpuller: lol "we're combing the desert" i always thought the afro pick was a nice touch. they don't make movies like that anymore.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 04:53 boolcrap: is that a giant comb? wtf is that from
asciilifeform: 'That night, I threw a wild tantrum, screaming and crying for hours on end. I had the whole apartment to myself, so there was no one there to hear me. I raged at the entire world, thrashing at my bed with my wooden practice sword and slashing at the air with my pocket knife. I even downed an entire bottle of wine, and got so drunk that I spilled my wine all over my laptop, permanently destroying it. I soaked my pillow with tears as I
shinohai: mircea_popescu , I am rather disappoint that not a single person has responded to generous Eulora offer. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: so give it a few hours.
mircea_popescu: not like i didn't put a fucking notice! on the very trilema!
asciilifeform: derpus americanus can plagiarize essay in kindergarten and ~not feel like a dolt~
asciilifeform: ( http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2016/08/a-thousand-balls-of-flame.html )
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the land of orlols, 'From a diplomatic perspective, it would be much more tidy to treat the problem of war criminals running the US as an internal, American political problem, to be solved by Americans themselves, with an absolute minimum of outside help. This would best be accomplished through a bit of friendly, neighborly intelligence-sharing, letting all interested parties within the US know who exactly should be hel
mircea_popescu: (the foregoing, outrageously, shamefully, shockingly, is merely a plain restatement of the intellectual scepticism requirement. in the ignare, barbarous world we find ourselves immersed, this apparently needs statement, because the concept has somehow been hijacked by the very fucking arlequins it's supposed to guard against, from "obama" to "roger ver" and the whole kaboodle of rotten, hollow reeds in between. which incident
mircea_popescu: which is the original point of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523089 : if for whatever reason you're unwilling to bias against pangloss, notwithstanding that this is both shown by experience to be a most productive, useful and eficacious heuristic as well as deductively sound ; nevertheless at the very least you can't bias FOR it. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: then ~I~'m supposedly "held", absurdly, to "demonstrate" and to "bring proof" and to "verify signature" against a ridiculous "default" constructed in this manner.
mircea_popescu: ux ; aussi monseigneur a un très beau château : le plus grand baron de la province doit être le mieux logé ; et les cochons étant faits pour être mangés, nous mangeons du porc toute l’année : par conséquent, ceux qui ont avancé que tout est bien ont dit une sottise ; il fallait dire que tout est au mieux."
mircea_popescu: "Pangloss enseignait la métaphysico-théologo-cosmolonigologie. Il prouvait admirablement qu’il n’y a point d’effet sans cause, et que, dans ce meilleur des mondes possibles, le château de monseigneur le baron était le plus beau des châteaux, et madame la meilleure des baronnes possibles.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the problem here is moreover default trust. so you wake up one day and you see... "gnupg". nomina nuda. you look around, theres' "werner koch" idem, nomina nuda. you look, there's "tor" with "shari" and "isis". names, hollow as can be. but the natural tendency of the brain, to see movement in a succession of stills and meaning in noise and structure in names convinces you these are THINGS. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "come see what zimmerman thinks about encryption - a guy who admits to losing his pgp key sometime in the 90s and doesn't see the problem with this"
mircea_popescu: how the fuck do these people always pick up this sort of incompetence ? oh, "dating advice from a loser who admits to spending four hours trying to get some derp to whatever, play dead fish for three minutes. presumably after spending 95 minutes trying to start his 1983 honda."
mircea_popescu: who in his right fucking mind has four hours to spend thusly ? even if you're not making 100k an hour writing cia factbook entries, the time is gotta be worth enough to hire a hooker.
mircea_popescu: did a "fuck girls in every country". overlapped some countries with my network in them, lulz resulted.
boolcrap: is that a giant comb? wtf is that from ☟︎
asciilifeform: so find a shovel an' dig.
mircea_popescu: lone may be excused, but no fucking way was it ever a selling point in the entire history of sexuate reproduction.
a111: 0 results for "filtration system a marvel to behold", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=filtration%20system%20a%20marvel%20to%20behold
asciilifeform: $s filtration system a marvel to behold
gribble: Error: "!" is not a valid command.
asciilifeform: 'it worx shockingly!' is almost automatic way to produce a cargo cult.
mircea_popescu: modern white guy is a little bit nutty.
mircea_popescu: well yeah, it works so shockingly for one thing that they started doing it "to see". and there's DEFINITELY a strong undercurrent of alt-sex in there.
asciilifeform: the 'let's copy gut bacteria of tribe x' thing is then reminiscent of the early days of blood transfusion, when it was tried as a crackpot cure for just about everything.
gabriel_laddel: a yea
gabriel_laddel: put it in a gel cap or w/e
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel i had a chick suck out a banana like once, "de palmares". not really into the stuff tbh.
asciilifeform: ning sky. With my hands under my hips – and butt perched against a large rock for support – I peddled an imaginary upside down bicycle in the air to pass the time as I struggled to make sure my new gut ecosystem stayed put inside me.'
asciilifeform: 'AS THE SUN set over Lake Eyasi in Tanzania, nearly thirty minutes had passed since I had inserted a turkey baster into my bum and injected the feces of a Hadza man – a member of one of the last remaining hunter-gatherers tribes in the world – into the nether regions of my distal colon. I struggled to keep my legs in the air with my toes pointing towards what I thought was the faint outline of the Southern Cross rising in the eve
mircea_popescu: dude, the naughts... what a dumb time i swear.
phf: mircea_popescu: that's a very fine intel
asciilifeform: ( iirc mr mold linked to him, or possibly a node or two away )
mircea_popescu: is this first across A classes ?
asciilifeform: ^ who said american subcultures had to be a snore! there still remain 'timecubes' from '90s !1111
asciilifeform meanwhile searched for vendor to buy a ranque-hilsch tube, and ran into http://www.goldenspiralresearch.co.uk/implosion.html
mircea_popescu: truth be told us subculture is kinda arid and uninteresting a topic.
mircea_popescu: e. The sad part is, he’s not even selling out. He’s trading principles, honesty and consistency for nothing. He will not reap money, power, or fame from his transformation into an emasculated poof. Tucker Max is ignoring his opportunity to be a part of history, and his only reward will be a well-deserved slide into obscurity." (cca 2012.)
mircea_popescu: o nevermind, i got it all wrong! "Tucker Max had the opportunity to be a spokesman for a generation. He had the opportunity to lend his voice to the revolt against the effeminization of North American Men, and maybe even lead a 21st-century revival of classical masculinity. Instead, he is pissing that opportunity away, in the hopes that he’ll earn a morsel of approval from the gatekeepers of mainstream culture and literatur
asciilifeform: iirc smokes tho. can forgo smokes for a day, buy with that.
asciilifeform: well hey, if he's got a +ev amplifier, why not skip lunch a day or two and buy old comp with ~that~, then sell... rinse, repeat
mircea_popescu: but the good news is that after the first however many years of triple to five-nine failure rate, it drops to one or two, meaning that often you're forcfed to repeat the same point less than a hundred times!
mircea_popescu: with the best of intentions, learning is ~impossible a task.
mircea_popescu: don't feel too bad, i got a lot of experience with this on slavegirls
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel I'll file it under 'agreeing to anything counts for nothing unless in-wot' << = >> But if you want to take a what, sub 100 usd risk of sending it to $rando, I've
gabriel_laddel: Lel. I'm not swearing to anything. But if you want to take a what, sub 100 usd risk of sending it to $rando, I've the info.