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asciilifeform: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/32749#.VK37NHW9_fs << ru pigburial
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: There are tales of WP working with Postgre and others in off the shelf configuration, much as there are sightings of a loch ness monster with feathers.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I hear it can be forced.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: can't see why not.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes for wordpress ?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> sooo... apparently "text" mysql blobs are limited to 65535 characters ? << perhaps someday consider the use of the alien technology "postgresql"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and there are many gaps at least that long
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mine - june!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ah, simply suggesting that one could allow folks to speak on a cell by blocktelegraphing in
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as described in my article by the same name
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> "pay me 1 btc, if youdon't say anything stupid for a whole month you get it back" << The way I understand gossipd... fair collateral seems closer to 15-20 BTC
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The reptilians. The DDoS people ruined the lizard word like all marketers do.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu aha yes
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i was refering to animal farm.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Emperor Eunuch and the Barbarians
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: http://trilema.com/2014/the-idea-for-a-great-film/
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i see i have some reading to catch up on :)
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski you know when the retarded horse discovers that the pigs are actually having fun in the pig room ?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: You know from that movie plot Mp mposted to trilema
pete_dushenski: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/07/technology/intel-budgets-300-million-for-diversity.html?_r=2 << more lulz
mircea_popescu: this discussion is reminding mircea_popescu to go check on the "oh, we are economists, looking before we leap, there's a small minority disagreeing" crowd
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'brain activation' folks are simply a somewhat more 'photogenic' version of the rest of usg academia, where virtually every physical science 'result', almost without exception, concerns some spurious correlation of this and that
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the russian guy's wrong in pretty much all the particulars. they ran into tons of police. http://www.liberation.fr/societe/2015/01/07/attaque-contre-charlie-hebdo-ce-que-l-on-sait_1175371
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu that is/are correction, where was that from? i couldn't place it
decimation: !up pete_dushenski
decimation: mircea_popescu: receiving on one ip and rxing' on another is what I'm calling a 'port'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope. does not work on tcp.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally, this is just after president hollande suggests pulling out of ru sanctions thing
asciilifeform: only if mircea_popescu wants to test the turrets.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/artifexd-a-better-ircd-rfc/#comment-111278 << perhaps should be a separate article ?
thestringpuller: !up tsp_2
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "hashname" << have ye unleashed the valkyrie on reddit?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes granted. i just mean... so they do,more power to em.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in a way, it is. but sort of left as an exercise.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes there's no value in imposing values for poeople.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aha but you cannot really have this, unless you - in particular - or one of your peers - wants to create a public toilet for spam and give it peerage
asciilifeform: (i forget if this was mircea_popescu's terminology in the original article, or not)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: rather more like bitcoin - in that you introduce messages into the net by loading them into your own cell
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: do read mircea_popescu's article, it is very concise.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: manually configured peers
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: how do you propose to use the hypothetical gizmo without running a cell ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: trick is that two directly-connected cells may as well be exchanging signed msgs. but relayed msgs (in, e.g., cells a -> b -> c, from a to c) are 'gossip' - that is, 'deniable.'
kakobrekla: ben_vulpes you can speak cause you have ops not cause authed with gribble and assbot.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i did, later, grasp mircea_popescu's deniable-transmission algo
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc, a good bit of that stuff -was- preserved in writing - of a kind. e.g., 'broadside ballads'
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> wait are we actually using altgribble for auth now? << no.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Maybe your connection just needs to be less wonh
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes cause he kept an uninterrupted connection and assbot still sees him
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu and kakobrekla have been voicing folks by hand.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: I've just stayed connected.
assbot: Logged on 27-07-2014 19:19:35; mircea_popescu: chetty: II 5. France took Algeria, hoping for a country to eat cassoulet and instead France is now eating couscous. << this is what happens when small penis messes with big penis.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] o look, 1k lines by 4 am. ben_vulpes will so much love this. << lord am i
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this kind of thing worked in 'tribal' structure, where most folks are reasonably 'close to the soil' and grow/kill the necessities of life personally. i suppose it also works in a concentration camp - though, iirc, these also typically have a kind of scrip and so aren't entirely free of currency.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'Currency generally is in the hands of a selected few, this situation where every man woman and child holds some is an exception, and I suspect coming to an end.' << i recall being shown, as a boy, an 1890s ru coin that 'would feed a family for a month!111!!'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: now, harmful methods involving - neutrons? yes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'The notion that gold supply does not increase a lot is predicated on obsolete technology. Gold supply would increase quite a lot, and in really harmful ways involving cyanide, if it seriously became monetized.' << iirc, cyanidation was SOP since 1890s.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'Let them have scrip, will be good enough for them...' << usd is not already scrip ?
Apocalyptic: "mircea_popescu:i must say, incidentally, i thoroughly enjoyed this discussion." // so did I, thanks for the priceless logs
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/01/lawmakers-facebook-rant-threatens-media-for-unauthorized-use-of-his-name << turns out we have these here.
cazalla: BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Bitstamp's line is the 4th and they didn't announce before then. so if it was earlier still time for customers to get fucked pertending deposit addressses are theirs. <<< and there is still the issue of what amount of coins will not honoured by bitstamp after the annoucement
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2rkt1u/coinbase_give_us_the_right_to_run_your_credit/cngz6fs a voice of reason
cazalla: mircea_popescu: HOWEVER. one of those addresses is http://bitbet.us/stats/1QJRfCctSz7BLriE7CiF5LefBXJgm6Jcax/ <<< isn't this just a case of someone using their bitstamp deposit address for bitbet payouts, even kakobrekla mentioned this http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-01-2015#965903 ☝︎
artifexd: mircea_popescu: Regarding gossipd, do you have any preference for the data flowing over the wire as binary or text?
asciilifeform: wai wat, mircea_popescu with an exchange ?!
asciilifeform reread last night's thread, and grasped mircea_popescu deniable-transmissions scheme.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski "Their habitual attacks on forums is usually" << are.
BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/pete_dushenski/status/552862307307782144
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Bitstamp's line is the 4th and they didn't announce before then. so if it was earlier still time for customers to get fucked pertending deposit addressses are theirs.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> now is the theory here that what, the haxxor is using on bitbet the same address that nejc was using on bitbet prior to the "hack" ? because why ? << I don't see any new bets after the 4th. COuld just be a derp who wanted to "win" to his Bitstamp deposit address?
mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2rji9f/looking_before_the_scaling_up_leap_by_gavin/cnhdze7?context=3 << check it out, hashname perseveres.
asciilifeform: ty mircea_popescu
mod6: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2rji9f/looking_before_the_scaling_up_leap_by_gavin/cngsj0b << ``OH GAVIN, DO YOU WANT SOME BUNNY COINZ?! WHERE CAN WE ALL LINE UP TO FELLATE YOU FOR BREAKING BITCOIN?''
thestringpuller: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2rji9f/looking_before_the_scaling_up_leap_by_gavin/cngsj0b
fluffypony: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2rkevr/cointerra_is_in_default/
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah. the skeleton in the RFC wasn't as revealing as the conversation was. gossipd putting the emphasis on Relay in IRC
BingoBoingo: * mircea_popescu finds it funny how the same one stump trips erryone. << Had to watchh for a while, but it clicked all at once
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no but recall the thing itself i refer to. a pastebin contract was in fact proferred.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes how does it fall apart ?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] and if i am in your list and you in mine the same is preserved by gossipd. << means that if you want everything you say on the record, operate a server for your identity.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> "fun" << myeah something like fun
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: glad you took some interest in it. take the time later to write some comments?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes o you had fun ?
ben_vulpes: matter of fact listening to you and mircea_popescu and artifexed go on has been educational and illuminating in any number of ways
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes gets it
decimation: asciilifeform: like the 'soviet embassy bug': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device)
asciilifeform: adlai: must note that it is originally entirely unrelated to mircea_popescu and artifexd's project
asciilifeform: adlai: described it at some length in #b-a at various points in the past month; also in a few comments on mircea_popescu's site.
asciilifeform pictured mircea_popescu breaking keyboards, etc
asciilifeform: then mircea_popescu is correct
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the tidbit that escapes me is how you came upon the idea that default-signed would empower, rather than lower into pederasty, the 'anonymous derp'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu does not like the notion of nsa goon having a non-deniable tape of anything he catches. (i don't much, either...) asciilifeform does not like that it is generally customary to speak unsigned, and thereby nsa goon can put words into his mouth, and a certain number of people will believe them
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at present time, an 'unknown' can generate a pgp key and carry on 'continuity' with it over whatever channel. we can't exactly prevent it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by what mechanism do 'unknowns' transmogrify into 'knowns' in your cosmography ?
asciilifeform: in mircea_popescu's current scheme, they still are signed, i'll point out. but ad-hoc, by the next hop node
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is it merely my puny brain, but i still don't grasp the 'signed-default is bad because preet can steal a key.' if preet gets a hold of my key, he may as well have put a bullet through my hide, stuffed the corpse, and proceeded to live on as it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: earlier link concerned my working hypothesis as to why.
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2014 00:04:59; asciilifeform: pierce << ideal example of the animal described on one of mircea_popescu's essays - he could be packed into prison for life, any time, based on what's in his file. so he does as instructed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and you like it ?
asciilifeform: who among those present, other than mircea_popescu, wishes to be impersonateable (deniable) by default ?
mircea_popescu: o look, 1k lines by 4 am. ben_vulpes will so much love this.