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asciilifeform: FINALLY somebody does this thing that i asked for 1+yr ago.
mircea_popescu: yeah, whatever. i can't be arsed to have anyone dig it up, but certainly germane to this idiocy. imbecile went as far to actually ~predict~, the obviously falsifiable point, that somehow the republic is unstable. because omg, it breks the tenets of socialism and dares have personally invested sovereignity, THEREFORE IT MUST BE BAD.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: believe or not, kako was actually complaining earlier, why do i discuss phuctor finds 'there, in the nuttery' and not 'here'
mircea_popescu: wasn't that sloven fucktard derping about how "everything will come to grief because mp stopped subsidizing my sorry ass AND I THOUGHT I WAS ENTITLED!11"
mircea_popescu: oh right right, he was waxing indignant atop some hallucinated "moral superiority" on twitter, "look at these people calling me what i am, clearly i must be right!!1"
asciilifeform: i.e., an appointed 'burn man' for usg vulns
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's ok, i didn't actually want to say anything @openbsd.
asciilifeform: i recall distinctly that, e.g., phf, named several cases with which i was not personally familiar.
mircea_popescu: as i said, i'd defo read it.
asciilifeform: before the thread is lost, i'd like to nominate 'flycheck' as an own and distinct type of fraud, the 'bus broke down, yes, we're the bus now!111' device.
mircea_popescu: it's still unclear what exactly you imagine to achieve through this "i don't expect to live to see a thing" device either.
asciilifeform: it means that i dun expect to live to see a thing.
asciilifeform: i promise to attend.
mircea_popescu: i'd definitely read carefully / comment on any proposed classification
a111: Logged on 2016-08-04 05:40 phf: i don't know the details of ken sievers, some lesser part of systemd's master wrecking plan, involving firmware devices. probably behavior is somehow mandatory in NSA injection sequence. or else guy is just another righteous prick
mircea_popescu sings "i did it one step at a time, and it didn't cost me a dime... i got the only one there is around"
shinohai: asciilifeform best i can offer for backup logz is http://bit-box.org/logs/logs/%23trilema/2016-08-04.html
asciilifeform: it was 'new and fun and for students' etc., but i never really grasped wtf to do with it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was using non-us market data.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514252 << at one point i even had acct there, decade+ ago, it likely still exists ☝︎
mircea_popescu: no idea, which is why i never fcared for him.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform most of the better whores can, and do, and that's why i love them.
asciilifeform: i can understand folks who buy the subs (as described by mircea_popescu re costa rica narcos) but tanker is lunacy.
asciilifeform: hey i never asserted that the problem was ~solvable~...
mircea_popescu: if you imagine you'll have orlov build you a ship out of a well chosen half walnut that'll perform better in "freakish weather" than a tanker you really should move on to apologetics, what can i say!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have nfi. maybe ? it'd surely help if they listed names.
mircea_popescu: this i gotta see
mircea_popescu: note that i'm the one explaining "life on the sea" is idiotic, you don't get to hijack that argument. fact remains that IF you're willing to bite the live-on-sea bullet, tanker by far best deal.
asciilifeform: i am interested in the sea as ~strictly~ a place where the dollar buys moar social-isolation bang than elsewhere, and in no other way.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514356 << would someone kindly explain to me WHY i would wish to live on a ship if i had 'millions' ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514350 << tankers are seaworthy?! perhaps by 'i sit on land while lloyds of london pays for the 100 tankers rogue waves sink every year' sense... ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-08-04 05:50 mircea_popescu: honestly, the age never existed. i've seen such ages, up close and personal. but the composition of this particular version was exceedingly weak. not even teracotta soldiers, more like pillsbury doughmen.
asciilifeform: to the point that i've never thought of gmane as anything but a polluter of search results.
asciilifeform: consider, 'So, anyway, I’m perfectly willing to delete whatever it is they want to have deleted. So I was looking through the stack to see if that was in there somewhere.'
asciilifeform: i dun get it.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514253 << it was eaten by systemd. there is a (last i saw, working) clean fork, 'eudev'. and it looks like phf explains further down in the l0gz. ☝︎☟︎
thestringpuller: So basically Steemit's fate is being turned into a straight up spam machine since it has no soultion in place for the eternal september except "premined votes from ned and dan" and btc bagholders who bought extremely early and can't yet exit. This is the doom I believe Bitcoin would have faced if Roger, Gavin, Hearia, or whatever incarnation of USG programmed hedonist-bot had hijacked the entire system and allowed spam to be cheap. Th
thestringpuller: shinohai: Steem is slowly drying up. Volume and depth evaporated from bittrex, and they've openly admitted now it's designed like a ponzi to bring more people to the scene. But what I imagine actually happens, is a bunch of smart people write bots to go to war with each other. the spam bots and counter spam bots. The spam bots pretty much will just extract revenue from spam like anything else, but in this context it actually works, si
mircea_popescu: i could never fucking stand the twerp.
mircea_popescu: i dunno about this babying. oodletons of flesh in various states of decay already produced.
ben_vulpes: i thought that was 16-24
ben_vulpes: me i'm not even thirty yet!
ben_vulpes: like 18k/day i think?
ben_vulpes: i briefly looked into buying a giant waterproof sack and sticking it into a TEU for int'l wine shipping.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i usually ask them in turn how long they've been working, they say something with months in it, i ask them how they like it, they say not very much...
mircea_popescu: girlies here keep asking me if i want ice in it.
ben_vulpes: no although i did have to lay about with the cane one time when someone brought me a bottle of refrigerated red.
ben_vulpes: heh and further lolz of the wine insulator, i once asked one of the staff to bring a bottle up in it
ben_vulpes: i believe that one of the cleaning girls put it in the dishwasher.
ben_vulpes: semi-relatedly, i found the wine insulator.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ... pillsbury doughmen. >> Can be cured https://i.sli.mg/a6O2Jw.jpg
mircea_popescu: honestly, the age never existed. i've seen such ages, up close and personal. but the composition of this particular version was exceedingly weak. not even teracotta soldiers, more like pillsbury doughmen. ☟︎
phf: i think half the conversations here are about coming in terms with how royally "the age" was lost
mircea_popescu: deedbot, i can see. logs, i can see. what exactly goes into this archive ? why do you trust anything in it ?
phf: i'll reread it tomorrow with an eye for malice, unless someone else (looks in direction of asciilifeform) does it first. it does look curious
mircea_popescu: yeah kinda what i was vaguely and amateurishly curious about.
phf: i don't know the details of ken sievers, some lesser part of systemd's master wrecking plan, involving firmware devices. probably behavior is somehow mandatory in NSA injection sequence. or else guy is just another righteous prick ☟︎
phf: i have his blog on rotation, and about 2 years ago he stopped posting anything interesting. it's all 1) screenshots from movies he watches 2) photos of comic books he reads
phf: oh, and he's giving up domain to anyone willing to "set up a new web based service" "all previous permalink.gmane.org (etc.) links continue to work as before, but they’ll look new and spiffy in your new and spiffy web interface" bunch of anons in the comments going "yeah, i'm kind of sort of interested plx send money to this btc address^W^W^W^W^Wdomain"
mircea_popescu: "I need your assistance if you can. I accidentally sent a message to the [redacted] email list last night with a live password in it. The password is hardcoded in to dozens of machines, so changing it would be… inconvenient, to say the least. I don’t yet see the message on your archive page, so I can’t provide the URL link, but I wanted to see if you could remove the message before it is processed and posted."
mircea_popescu: phf im mostly ignorant of the stuff (heck, i think i read gmane... once. in like 1996. it didn't deliver.) but what exact idiocy is kay sievers invested in not reverting at whatever cost, including his anal virginity ?
phf: ben_vulpes: i was going to link relevant mail message, but udev has been merged into systemd a while ago. gentoo has a fork, called eudev. udev also prompted one of the linus' famous rants, https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/3/484
mircea_popescu: did i miss some drama ?
mircea_popescu: i wonder if any of the derpy investors ever did any sort of dd whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: actually i'm doing a large-ish project whereby various bullshit "countries" leak their civil records (ie, names, ssi, taxids, address etc) of their whole population ; which then gets searched in fb db.
mircea_popescu: eh, i wouldn't be too worried. by now most of "the crowd" is made out of washed outs who thought at some point they were somebody.
ben_vulpes: i'll probably be cursed with the opposite.
BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/3kNm1QY.jpg
phf: "because i turn up and it’s not fucking not anonymous anymore. i’m not just some guy in the crowd ever again." цыпа такая цыпа. зашкварился, теперь под петухами всю жизнь ходить
BingoBoingo: https://i.sli.mg/jwgjKH.png
ben_vulpes: i'm thinking dig olivine out of the earth, blow co2 over it, and sell carbon credits.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-04 00:13 Nordic: I see some "known" nicks from slacks here
Nordic: I see some "known" nicks from slacks here ☟︎
Nordic: How do i answer that, lol. Norwegian dude, interested in the cryptoscene.
mircea_popescu: i thought he was raising a kid
ben_vulpes: i'm glad we all agree
mircea_popescu: i never use it
ben_vulpes: i'm rather tempted to simply nuke the html view.
fromphuctor: I see. so for this to work, two factors should be close to each other. So nothing todo with 2x-1?
fromphuctor: I know that, it works well only on non-properly-generated rsa modulus, which is easily factorizable by 2^x -1
mircea_popescu: i have nfi.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which is why i say depends on the set-up. maybe something plouffe-esque could be had to fit it in tight ram
fromphuctor: thanks again guys, I learned a lot in 10 mins :)
fromphuctor: I see
fromphuctor: you might end up writing your own bignum calc in GPU and still I'm not entirely sure it will be faster for this op in CPU
fromphuctor: one dumb question, would GPU do this operation faster? (I doubt it, but have to ask)
fromphuctor: yup, that's what I meant. Thank you!
asciilifeform: e.g., pgpdump -i pubkey.txt
shinohai: "bitco.in" and "dogecoin" tell me all I need to know.
_FeltPen: tbf - haven't mined in a while, but i have a nice fleet of antminer S1s
_FeltPen: i hope . . . normally, i just lurk and learn. happy to keep doing that.
_FeltPen: who said anything about it being useful? i just said they made something.
shinohai: I'm sorry, I was unaware 21co actually made anything useful for this ''ecosystem"
_FeltPen: what are you talking about shinohai? i don't have a 21co - i tend to root for folks that make things for this ecosystem.
_FeltPen: i'm trying to figure out what shinohai is randomly tweeting at me and making up shit about VC relationships that don't exist. a little confused atm.
mircea_popescu: mno, i think ima keep it all.
shinohai: Oh hai, I suppose you are merely another 21co fanboy that gets butthurt every time I point put how your $400 doorstop has no case, ad naseum
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i see your accident and raise you one luck : https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4vyb8a/mircea_popescu_exposed_bitfinex_back_in_2013/d62nxmb
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i see you admire teh beauties yes.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-03 03:05 fabio__: There has been quite a bit of noise about ECC NIST curves (nistp256, nistp384, nistp521) being tampered with by the NSA. I thought using ECC was all good if you don't use the NIST curves and instead use community approved curves like Curve25519 and Curve1174 by like DJB and friends, or other approved ones at https://safecurves.cr.yp.to/.