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mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: he moved it from 1680 to 1700 say :D
mircea_popescu: i dunno he did that lol.
mircea_popescu: has been since tesla's days
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not much. magnetic field research is for some reason stuck in 1700
mircea_popescu: hm.
mircea_popescu: "To znay: za chest' dolzhna schitat' znakomstvo yunkerskogo khuya!"
mircea_popescu: but that's like antisemitism!
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: actually it gets it rather close, yevreystvo
mircea_popescu: lel
mircea_popescu: somebody needs to be blonder, wtf hairy-armed jewishness is this.
mircea_popescu: ah nm ukr. i thouight those tiles looked familiar.
mircea_popescu: is this another columbian chick ?
mircea_popescu: shinohai nice bitties!
mircea_popescu: phf the main objection to your quiet style is that now i can't discern whether you a) understood the arguments and are thinking about it ; b) simply didn't understand the arguments or c) understood what was said but didn't judge it any kind of argument. express yourself, don't repress yourself! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: hi jhvh1
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: i imagine some of the best electronics for rng would be satellites. measure it straight in the solar panels!
mircea_popescu: phase velocity of light in water is like .75, so if the water glows blue there's electrons there going > .75, meaning they'll go a few meters.
mircea_popescu: iirc it was 1-2 meters for .5 c electrons.
mircea_popescu: it's calculable!
mircea_popescu: nah, fast ion - matter interaction is iffy. they can go a mile.
mircea_popescu: its presence means there's fast moving electrons.
mircea_popescu: sram in cherenkov, while the cells last.
mircea_popescu: i dunno it'd be a small bit of emitter.
mircea_popescu: it wasn't hot enough to melt concrete phf.
mircea_popescu: now that's a point.
mircea_popescu: eh, i don't expect worldwide usage of otp ticker exceeds 1mbps.
mircea_popescu: oh, oh, for YOUR test beds. i see. lol
mircea_popescu: > 13 ?
mircea_popescu: dunno why you'd want more than a coupla anyway. it's redundant to all fuck.
mircea_popescu: and this is BEFORE doing per capita regularization.
mircea_popescu: more of a scene in fucking 42 leningrad than buenos aires ever saw.
mircea_popescu: the notion that ~at any point~ teh russkis lacked a night life is borne out of a very strange life.
mircea_popescu: heh.
mircea_popescu: phf they pretend to be millennials. in point of fact are apes.
mircea_popescu: shinohai yes. their official beach where everyone goes is actually untreated sewage. they don't care.
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1UzHkN5jBA <
mircea_popescu: !~google "rio rita"
mircea_popescu: leaving aside that if you got to meet beria it was all fun and games from there on, the "discotheque" was a thing even for plebs. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform su in 1975 did not have 0 nightclubs.
mircea_popescu: this isn't to say that pre-peron argentina wasn't a major world power, it was. but at no point was greenwich village what lifetime ohioan poet imagined it to be ; and similarily the hallucinated argentina of borges is a place exactly in the sense hemingway's manhood is a manhood or blair's civilisation is a civilisation.
mircea_popescu: phf that argentina is essentially a scam. it never existed ; much like vhs america never existed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform argentina ? it's great for a week, and for a month. it's horrible for longer because the people are such subhuman shits.
mircea_popescu: !!key serje
mircea_popescu: why, great day to propose marriage to long term fiance.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: so how do they get refilled then ?
mircea_popescu: as in made of tits ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not trb's identity was being defined. the c machine's was.
mircea_popescu: not sure how that's related, but by all means.
mircea_popescu: i don't see how it'll seriously run on anything besides a c machine for the mid term.
mircea_popescu: as opposed to items that are toys, or turds, or tonsils.
mircea_popescu: no. it encompasses any iotem that is a computer.
mircea_popescu: yes. definition of "lisp machine" ALSO IS "item which runs trb"
mircea_popescu: it's slowly emerged into obviousness that pretending "bitcoin is software" makes in fact 0 sense, and is entirely borne of idiocy. bitcoin is not "userland". bitcoin is the whole thing.
mircea_popescu: c machine does have a specific meaning, and it is "item which runs trb."
mircea_popescu: not anymore.
mircea_popescu: or i mean, why's it odd.
mircea_popescu: why not ?
mircea_popescu: work on massaging the protoypes is work towards the item prototyped, what's so unpalatable about this.
mircea_popescu: and how did we find this out ?
mircea_popescu: "c machine" defined as "item that runs trb" is thereby fixed through becoming more apparent than it previously was.
mircea_popescu: at the very least things were learned about how trb is ~supposed to~ function, and this is sufficient to qualify it.
mircea_popescu: that has nothin to do however.
mircea_popescu: i suppsoe you define work differently from me.
mircea_popescu: code workhardens.
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: in any case : it's work done upon a portion of the c machine. what more is needed to qualify ?
mircea_popescu: well, if you are found with dead body and smoking gun, you'll have to prove the negative alright.
mircea_popescu: how do you know this ?
mircea_popescu: i don't see they are distinct.
mircea_popescu: these are not mutually exclusive statements.
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: it is trying to fix the trb, which is a component of the c machine, defined as "runs trb"
mircea_popescu: in any proper statement, all the eg trb foundation's work goes towards one fold of "fixing c machine" in this sense.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "runs trb".
mircea_popescu: but i don't have enough elements piled up to say what elements i need to say whether this is so or not.
mircea_popescu: the other vaguely relevant point is that it's probably cheaper to fix the c machine than to build the lisp machine.
mircea_popescu: this i won't challenge.
mircea_popescu: ~all my interest in this dispute is the imo important point that thompson issue & friends is no actual bar to republican computing.
mircea_popescu: but we were discussing what we can do rather than what's done, or such was my understanding.
mircea_popescu: well sure, so it's not done.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the outlined plan was to read it, pare it down for the function contemplated, compile it with itself etc.
mircea_popescu: obviously, "i choose to live in usg" means... you chose to live in usg. "but i had no other options". hurr.
mircea_popescu: and tcc idem ?
mircea_popescu: again : unarisms are unarisms.
mircea_popescu: phf and if you don't keep the machine online, you don't.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform elementarily, i saw the item run pre-patched, now i see it run patched.
mircea_popescu: well ok, so the understanding of the thompson bootstrap problem is that it's not an absolute bar to bootstrapping, but a possible pitfall ?
mircea_popescu: either i get to use my tool frist, in which case i can perceive a change ; or else i don't get to use my tool first, in which case -- prediction is necessary.
mircea_popescu: phf it's either predict or expose itself. there's no third.
mircea_popescu: yes, i might. but i don't ~have to~ already be using it.
mircea_popescu: yes, but this idea doesn't scale the way phf wants it to scale.
mircea_popescu: and i won't be using it.
mircea_popescu: because if "patch after used" then it's created a partition which i can use ; and if "predict" then the inf-in-being is rightthere.
mircea_popescu: or else patch it after we've used ?
mircea_popescu: so someone is going to predict rotor4 ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno who was proposing we don't.