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asciilifeform: 'thestringpuller May 18, 2017 11:32 @davef Dunno. Some speculated MP was broke and couldn’t warrant the losses to keep BitBet going' << didjaknow !!
asciilifeform: briefly upstack : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1658014 << i tracked down the heathen pit in question, for entomological purposes. the only possibly lulzy bit is that it turns out to be thestringpuller 's new home. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: vectorized graphics.
asciilifeform: knuth however was aware that raster photosetter ( a la modern process -- essentially laser printer ) had become a thing, vs old-fashioned ( essentially optoelectronic version of drum printer, with template wheels )
asciilifeform: most folx who encounter, say, hashlife, even today go 'wtf, martian'
asciilifeform: not, evidently, everything.
asciilifeform: the tech was ~obvious.
asciilifeform: as was the work henderson's paper stood on. imho this is a case of 'bell's telephone'
asciilifeform: phf: 1982 !
asciilifeform: phf: aha
asciilifeform: !~later tell BingoBoingo https://archive.is/Nbc3i << possible qntra
asciilifeform: postscript is merely one half-baked incarnation.
asciilifeform: phf: henderson's method, was, ultimately, 'the maxwell's equations of graphics'
asciilifeform: i dun recall, didja ever end up using it
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: lolk
asciilifeform has tried, on and off over the years, to generalize it to something more interesting, but so far not succeeded
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this wasn't a 'shannonizer', but a thing that takes small state machine automaton and computes expansion of N steps 'impossibly' quickly
asciilifeform: possibly the only example of something that comes close, that i know of , is bernstein's gcd
asciilifeform: makes the difference b/w, e.g., sieve of eratosthenes factoring, and modern factoring algos, look small.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: aha, one of the most jaw-dropping optimizations in history of the field, afaik.
asciilifeform: ( and fwiw, iirc the wavelet patents expired long ago )
asciilifeform: sane folx piss kerosene on patents and then light it
asciilifeform: Framedragger: time-space compressor.
asciilifeform: ( prototyped, incidentally, on a bolix lispm )
asciilifeform: and it was one.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: 'hashlife' was interesting because there are not so many 'martian' breakthroughs -- multiple-orders-of-magnitude speedups -- in algo world.
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: but it is narrowly specific to scans. doesn't do vector-graphics a la postscript
asciilifeform: djvu has some annoying quirks ( lossy compressor, so sometimes, e.g., И turns into Н on entire page ) but otherwise mindblowingly great tech, a scan that'd be 400M in pdf, can be 4 , and actually uses the res of whatever display you have, incl. printer, to display ~= original
asciilifeform: and extensions thereof
asciilifeform: Framedragger: we had entire thread, re subj
asciilifeform: wavelet compressor.
asciilifeform: funnily enough the problem of 'how to store scans without losing ANYTHING' was long ago solved : 'djvu' (ancient bell labs thing, i use it every day)
asciilifeform: this a) sucks for text, can no longer search, cut/paste but b) for most of my pdf this is ALREADY so, because they were ancient scans
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1658022 << iirc it was just a sh script to rasterize the pages to jpegs ! a la http://www.loper-os.org/pub/hl/hl.html . ☝︎
asciilifeform: very much a synthesis-invention
asciilifeform: it was not a wholly unprecedented item, no.
asciilifeform: by same logic could say it was stolen from chuck moore's forth
asciilifeform: ditto postscript (dealt with other end of the funnel -- the low-level pixel-pushing, rather than 'what to do with equations')
asciilifeform: tex was concerned with the ~logical~ end.
asciilifeform: (today it is approx. same as then)
asciilifeform: the ~physical~ process of typesetting had already matured then, aha
asciilifeform: ( phunphakt : troff originally was a driver for one )
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: i.e. an unwanted set of human hands in between.
asciilifeform: but 'not direct loop from mathematician to photosetter'
asciilifeform: 'manual' i did not mean 'same as gutenberg'
asciilifeform: and folx with 5th grade education were typesetting equations etc
asciilifeform: pre-tex, typesetting was ~manual process
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's theory -- we got pdf (postscript on comp display, really) because of the barfalicious failures of the www folx ( html etc )
asciilifeform: ps had 0 to do with reflow, it was specifically made for nonreflowing ( bounded layout ) devices
asciilifeform: tex predates
asciilifeform: because printer ( of the print house variety, not asciilifeform's old rattler ) takes pages, not scroll
asciilifeform: which original ? postscript ? it was intended for printer
asciilifeform: it was actually mircea_popescu who convinced me of this. that reflowable text was a step in right direction.
asciilifeform: well no, because (originally) reflowtron.
asciilifeform: it isn't a thing which anyone, outside a printing house perhaps, has any business doing on a regular basis.
asciilifeform: but the PROBLEM was an intrinsically WRONG problem to have to begin with
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1658008 << idea was, you ~are~ 'moving' objects by asking them to be laid out on a display of unknown (to author) resolution. this began as a ~sane 'postscript' and bloviated into a usgologic monstrosity, pdf ☝︎
asciilifeform: lolaha.
asciilifeform: it's a little bit like asking for a nonsense-to-sense converter.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1657972 << this is a mis-priored problem and will have atrocious 'solutions', guaranteed. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i have no doubt mircea_popescu knew . but for l0gz/n00bs ^ subj.
asciilifeform: lolk
asciilifeform: !~google stanislaw lem
asciilifeform: lem was this polish d00d
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1657992 << nah, standard formulation ☝︎
asciilifeform: but this nonsense -- no
asciilifeform: the funny bit is that i have 0 problem reading actual pdf, even have dedicated hardware for it
asciilifeform: almost as if they have a if (xres < yres) barf()
asciilifeform: surprising number of gui proggies -- don't
asciilifeform: or at least all tried thus far. ( i suspect that it doesn't like vertical display )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1657821 << for extra lulz, Framedragger , that thing turns to liquishit on all browsers, on all of my boxes ☝︎
asciilifeform: it's a multi-meg atrocity, it is broken DEFINITIONALLY
asciilifeform: plus heartbleeds etc.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: format is broken in ways that dun even have to do with crypto (e.g. toggles for silently turning off whatever elements)
asciilifeform: i have nfi why folx volunteer to use ssl.
asciilifeform: in protest against the nonsense where people ( who insisted on using ssl, but originally this was made mandatory for users of visa ) had to pay rentseeking hucksters thousands for 'this cert will work and browsers won't complain'
asciilifeform: iirc it was (is?) this thing that gives away ssl certs for phree
asciilifeform: it is an obvious product of people who have nfi what the subject matter even is, and simply pasted fragments in microshit word together.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have nfi re the actual meaning of the linked text. simply translated.
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=428
asciilifeform: 'the real nexus of this photo is the government official with the "you've got to be kidding me" expression, who exists in a power-structure that requires solemn professions of belief in this powerful weirdo's dumb rituals (including, but not limited to, spraying electronic devices with water, and not because a computer that has been rendered inoperable due to electrical faults is incidentally and thoroughly immune to malware)' >>>>>
asciilifeform: etc.
asciilifeform: 'currently the activity of the virus is localized. leakage of official information from ministry machines is wholly ruled out, quoth the official representative of same, ...'
asciilifeform: 'Servers belonging to the ministry were not infected on account of the use of alternative operating system and natively produced servers using the ru elbrus cpu'
asciilifeform: 'On account of timely measures, about a thousand infected machines were blocked off , which constituted less than 1%'. (?) ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1657831 << i dun wanna let this slip by . so : '12 May , the dept. of IT and information defense of the ru ministry of internal affairs detected a malware attack against PCs belonging to the ministry which were running Windows.', ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-21#1379892 << see also oblig-naggum ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is literally free to produce whatever rubbish it likes. because this is somehow useful to the folx who were dropped as children and wrote unix.
asciilifeform: eggog
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: string to int
asciilifeform: which turns out is not actually a button that's connected. by paying mega-rent, asciilifeform is buying OTHER d00d a house.
asciilifeform: the only negotiating leverage available to the plebe, however, is not to buy. at all.
asciilifeform: can't disagree here
asciilifeform: i dun see how this is unclear, if i walk into bezzlebroker with 1% of what house costs, i can't walk out with 1% of a house.
asciilifeform: ( recall marvin heemeyer aka 'killdozer' d00d and his encircled machine shop ? apparently rules re 'easements' are complicated. )
asciilifeform: upstack -- point is that nobody's about to run city pipes to a square metre.