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mircea_popescu: the greeks didn'
t have it. it was an all or nothing affair.
moiety: ThickAsThieves: I've heard some places are taking taxes out automatically without saying so, is the 91 equivalent to some income tax rate or such? << totally can'
t pinpoint exactly. in one breath they say it's their fee, in the next it's the banks but i've never had fees from my bank for incoming before. lesson learned.
mircea_popescu: the collision was, some guy made an order, trilema came back "pay x". he didn'
t. months later, other guy made order, trilema said "pay x" same x.
mircea_popescu: need something that doesn'
t end in a thus tickling my expectation it's a feminine romanian noun.
Azelphur: the annoying part is that master and slave have been around since the dawn of time, it's a technical term and you can'
t just go write random bullshit, this is what people don'
t seem to get
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if they regret 1984 isn'
t a thing. either as depicted in fiction or as enacted by the soviets, they want the dull gray concrete damn it
ThickAsThieves: <+bloctoc> I haven'
t seen anyone boasting about how much money their ATM is making. /// I've seen some data from Robocoin users that do quite well - paid off their machines in 1-3mos
assbot: The scary thing, I more inclined to believe this than the louder mining manufacterers are getting their acts together
http://t.co/rjLcP6YjPO mircea_popescu: Naphex a ok. so what's this for ? tv doesn'
t take 143 second clips now does it ?
pankkake: right; so my question here was more rhetorical: what next, since they won'
t be able to borrow anytime soon?
mircea_popescu: lol the butthurt of the world financial system @ argentina is palpable. order a payment to argentine anything ? "risk flagged transaction". why ? o, well... because we dun want argentina to has moneyz. won'
t you reconsider ?
Vallance: Why wouldn'
t you just come up with a bullshit story, i'd imagine it's hard enough being a female CEO of a tech company.
Vallance: The TBF hasn'
t even done anything positive for Bitcoin, all they have done is promote companies that end up ripping people off.
punkman: can'
t believe no one cares to put this in their FAQ
pankkake: I don'
t know, I never used it myself
Vallance: I've only tested it like twice with small amounts, I don'
t remember.
Vallance: but what gets me is that they don'
t even show where they are getting their data from, or will they disclose it
Vallance: Yeah but they don'
t publish their feeds and now it doesn'
t even seem like they are paying out immediately (that's something I don'
t understand with automated services and Bitcoin)
Vallance: Credit Unions are the ideal people to bank with but unfortunately my preferred one around here isn'
t a part of the CU Swirl Network
Vallance: I had someone contact me a couple months ago about KYC/AML Identification services. They may have been a new company, can'
t clearly remember. They are supposed to streamline and handle all your compliance requirements for you when interacting with customers on exchanging funds.
punkman: BingoBoingo: I suppose they won'
t care so much about dogecoins
punkman: you aren'
t even gonna make it to the gasenwagen
Vallance: That is where we make our margins, it isn'
t that much to them.
Vallance: As far as geographical area, I don'
t see any real competition in any of those areas, including Kentucky.
Vallance: If it was up to me then I would've moved to Panama, but my wife wasn'
t having it.
Vallance: We're really trying to re-work our current system and way of handling things first and foremost. We started with the p2p trading and the problem is we're still operating in that fashion. People enjoy the broker-client relationship but it just doesn'
t scale that well.
Vallance: Didn'
t even know how to transfer it
Vallance: We haven'
t had anyone drive in with a shoebox yet
pankkake: well mastercoin is made by people who don'
t know what they are doing, counterparty is in a slighly better position
punkman: you don'
t want to use Counterparty either
Vallance: A decent day is around $10,000 worth of volume a day. I know it's not huge, but we don'
t want to promote more than we can handle.
bloctoc: I haven'
t seen anyone boasting about how much money their ATM is making.
bloctoc: I heard today from reliable sources that gas stations don'
t want a phone that close to their pumps. needs to be bluetooth.
Vallance: We were hoping to target our suburban town and cause a good stir but our physical business traffic isn'
t near what we hoped.
punkman: moiety, one of these days btc-e will disappear, don'
t be a bagholder
Vexual: can'
t evenm tut at the devs
assbot: This is a thing: Greenscreen-clad workers who secretly flip models' hair during shampoo commercials.
http://t.co/tfHvykkxS8 ht /MakingOfs
cazalla: Vexual: depends on time of year and where I am, I don'
t do much fishing down here in Melbourne, more so when I go up Sydney with my brother/father
moiety: they left the scales on haddock once in a restaurant i as at. i don'
t know if it was a mistake or that happens anywhere in the world but just.. no.
cazalla: i can'
t imagine it taste too different from chicken pate etc
cazalla: supposedly, i've never had or made it before, i've been keeping livers frozen as it didn'
t seem worthwhile to make a small amount and i butcher them as needed so it's not like i have a lot of livers at once
cazalla: nah, i don'
t follow it closely nor do i vote
benkay: can'
t have puts without calls, etc
bloctoc: you had me until "FB Stock is volatile". Meanwhile I understand the concept of hedging, I just didn'
t realize when I asked the question that there was such a thing as F.DERP
TheNewDeal: so the stock of the acquirer shouldn'
t really change
bloctoc: I thought S.MPOE was F.DERP and I don'
t see F.DERP Am I Right?
bloctoc: I don'
t see how anyone would be able to hedge bpay today
TheNewDeal: I'm getting really excited for this silk road auction. Can'
t wait to see how it goes down
Naphex: i wouldn'
t care much even if 2nd key got compromised, since the raw pre-signed transaction delivered is already composed
Naphex: dignork: lol, ms-brainwallet doesn'
t look right needing both keys :)
Naphex: dignork: thx, haven'
t seen this one before
davout: Naphex: you apparently haven'
t learned the "don'
t give people bitcoins if they ain'
t educated enough to handle them themselves" lesson heh?
Naphex: the yeah i know sx, but needed something to give to a noob. who won;
t be able to command line it:P
davout: mthreat: i didn'
t really dig, what kind of results are you after ?
TheNewDeal: wasn'
t sure if it was considered bad behavior to propagate a double spent output
davout: TheNewDeal: i think what you're referring to is nodes banning some of their peers, you don'
t really ban nodes from the network
TheNewDeal: isn'
t there something about nodes being banned for like 24 hours for bad behavior?
davout: TheNewDeal: you don'
t double spend a transaction, you double spend an output, but other than that, nothing really until one of them gets into a mined block, more information can'
t really hurt
davout: mircea_popescu: "it was argued this isn'
t so smart." <<< i'd be interested in reading the argument
mircea_popescu: davout type 1 (pick one tx, relay that) "poisons" the nodes that got the dblspend. type 2 (relay all) doesn'
t.
pankkake: davout: I've read some interesting debates but I don'
t remember them
TheNewDeal: couldn'
t any derp go to blockchain tho?
pankkake: nodes shouldn'
t propagate the doublespent tx if they have the first, but of course it's not 100% reliable
mircea_popescu: someone doing that much hash doesn'
t need your puny 5kw tumble drier
moiety: davout, it was exactly the same as facebook but orange and had bitcoin symbols everywhere. i think it failed so badly, theytried to sell it and couldn'
t even pan it off
mircea_popescu: davout yeah but yours doesn'
t count because it was before mine!
mircea_popescu: <dub> is that an organisation for the purpose of immediately surrendering to anything that threatens crypto << don'
t knock it, it's a splendid strategy.
bitcoinpete: it's a bit surprising to me too because most of those community-minded types wouldn'
t (and couldn'
t) touch -assets with a 10 ft stick
justusranvier: It is the role of that court to present the peasants with the illusion of fair play and the rule of law so they don'
t revolt. They aren'
t doing a very good job.
mircea_popescu: just because scammers don'
t use gaap in fiat too doesn'
t give ignoramuses aspiring to comment the right to pretend gaap doesn'
t exist, or its use isn'
t legally mandatory.
mthreat: it's kinda like western union saying they won'
t use the internet until it's regulated
ThickAsThieves: 'How much of a threat is something like Bitcoin?' "We settle and pay out in 121 currencies ... once bitcoin is regulated ... why wouldn'
t we use bitcoin ... if it's regulated as a currency" ~ Western Union CEO
mircea_popescu: i so wouldlike to see someone grow some fucking balls and argue in court that they're not hold to do anything the irs wants because well... the irs doesn'
t follow the law.
mircea_popescu: rithm the misguided pretense as to jurisdiction is starting to get on my nerves. sec doesn'
t actually make it, but all sorts of dr foreskin lapdogs fall over each other to "create consensus"
pankkake: yes. but even yearly fixed inflation wouldn'
t be that bad imho
mircea_popescu: but you're right, the only current business of pseudo-bitcoin businesses a la coinbase, bitpay etc is that they're benefiting from a legal inefficiency, where exchanges that admit it are being fucked actively, whereas exchangesd that pretend to be paymernt processors aren'
t fucked quite as bad quite as yet.
pankkake: I agree the formulation isn'
t ideal. I mean, what if block reward was 1 BTC forever
Namworld: If you're willing to do so, it would be great. Don'
t forget to include date.
pankkake: this is why I usually don'
t publish after writing, but hey…
Namworld: That and we don'
t provide a default client seed, we use the blockchain transaction ID of the last deposit.
Namworld: It doesn'
t help much if the system is targetting accounts with large balance and stops cheating after a small sample/when the large balance isn'
t making large bets.
mircea_popescu: the coinroll "end of the day disclosure" method is also acceptable. it may be open to abuse for low volume sites (based on finding hash collisions, much in the same way mining works) but doesn'
t seem too practical
mircea_popescu: Namworld "No, you wouldn'
t be able to notice that the website, across all players, has a much higher house edge than 1% which is unlikely. It's easy to fill with fake "lucky" account to compensate " << you could notice it over your own experience.
mircea_popescu: 1. Client changes the seed after each new server seed, before every bet. He doesn'
t know server seed, so seed he provides should give a random number. (Painfully tedious, few actually do it, but for those who do, provably fair.) << prolly a bot that does this would be useful.
Namworld: I don'
t have one. Don'
t think I write often enough to attract any kind of regular audience regardless.
FabianB: hm. doesn'
t nasdaq close in points and not in usd?
pankkake: are you using bitcoin-qt? it doesn'
t list change addresses