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asciilifeform: and we had this entire test where my node ate a total dumpblock of mircea_popescu's
Framedragger: but in all seriousness, i'm a bit afraid, but it may be good education for me. not that i see this as a game to be fucked up at the first step
Framedragger: i heard there was, like, a way to, like, store results from a dynamic system, to be served in a static manner
asciilifeform: i posted a bash 3liner a while ago
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform jus' sayin', it's a little more elbow grease to dump and eat the whole blockchain than to just make a copy
mircea_popescu: btw Framedragger, you realise that once i link you, the bots will notice, and you'll eventually get the phf treatment, a month or w/e later ?
mircea_popescu: but to be perfectly fair - it's pretty much the mental default of bois, so. the 1 in 10ish or so dominant chick is probably a larger percentage of the respective population.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, /me has profile on bdsm site. a good third of the others checking it out are self-styled dominant dudes.
Framedragger: nasa's coding manual (which doesn't allow recursive code - because the rovers are, you know, sorta far away, and you write in a turing complete language) may have it - i wonder
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: that's a good point!
Framedragger: look at that one person knows to actually include human readable timestamp into the inside of a pgp signed message which deals with timing-sensitive info!!!
mircea_popescu: how do i check if kth of n elements was or was not initialized ? read a list n-1 long ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally Framedragger the problem of "we'll just initialize in a soup" is a lot deeper than previously thought. in a merciless language like C, the fact that we're the first to come up with the "fucking initialize in alphabetical roder!" is indicative of the brain rot.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: no disagreement there; just pointing out that sometimes small arrangement disagreements still prop up; say, different order of variable initialization (which otherwise bears no actual significance); etc. of course one *could* have a convention spec so precise taht it would include things like "if there is arbitrary order of initialization of $x then default to alphanumerical order".
mircea_popescu: it is prolly best practice to have all serious V projects include a "conventions" file where to list all this. "1. tabs not spaces, bitch!" etc. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i'm not the end all be all in project management for computer software. however, it seems to me "differently arranged lines" is a fucking weird problem to have. really, you can arbitrarily sort programs ? in what language, html ?
mircea_popescu: overusing who ? and what's a cosmetic conflict ?
mircea_popescu: if they put in the extra half hour to write a joint statement of their individual solutions they'd produce code that'd shame gabriel.
mircea_popescu: dude. add a 10%, get THREE TIMES YOUR CURRENT RESULTS
mircea_popescu: it takes a bit more time, but it guarantees a result MUCH better than current.
mircea_popescu: ah, that sort of conflict is to be resolved talmudically : they both review the code, jointly issue a version./
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: you mean in the sense of a logical "third"? i'm not sure. i guess i get it conceptually, re. conflicts; but on a more mundane practical level, conflicts happen because, say, two people implemented some particular thing a bit differently; or their feature touched upon code from another place which was also being worked at; whatever
mircea_popescu: Framedragger is there a remainder ?
mircea_popescu: (incidentally - "conflicts", as a git/github concept are both a) a direct equivalent of doublespends and b) a very convenient and for this reason perhaps deliberate rock under which to hide from responsibility
mircea_popescu: but if they want to work with you on X, there's nothing to keep them from putting the 2nd in a - presumably - different environment.
mircea_popescu: if people want to have a working product, or evaluate your person, they will put the first in their sig files.
Framedragger: shit, i just got what you're trying to say - i'm slow. it's only a publishing mechanism. how to collaborate internally is another matter. yes, nice separation of concerns. (though i suspect people have thought how to do proper collaboration in V as well - emails with vdiffs etc)
mircea_popescu: so collaboration, inasmuch as it's a private act (your tulpas, your friends, w/e) needn't be on v ; just like it needn't be on github, or on git. lots of code development happens on the holy napkin.
mircea_popescu: you and your coworker will likely not need, or want to eat the overhead, of keeping track of who owes who coffee via blockchain. also we don'tgive a shit, sort it out yourselves.
mircea_popescu: V is a publishing mechanism. it allows people to interact that don't know each other. it is very much like bitcoin : to achieve this glorious ends it has some costs.
Framedragger: right. perhaps it's a matter of writing scripts to automate this stuff for V. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "i like it" is a great argument.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: there is an implied assumption here of a "large enough" codebase (deliberately vague quantifier here). why i'm using it for scriba: 'cause i like it; and the latter's not a great argument. *but* if you have a large enough project with multiple people working on it, then:
mircea_popescu: (and ftr : the "faster" angle is a minor concern here. human on foot ought to do ~10-12kph ; there's no guarantee car manages to do half that. meanwhile, the "not cutting your soles to shreds" IS a major concern.)
mircea_popescu: "don't go to frat party barefoot, here's a car" is a shitload better than "don't go to frat party barefoot, here's the bus to church"
mircea_popescu: Framedragger tell you what, if i'm on any page like that and i right click an url it gives me a fucked up thing that dun work rather than a link to the thing i right clicked on. so i'm stuck processing them further.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: just so you know, no need to manually alter urls yourself anymore. unless you have a fetish for that, of course!
trinque: "automatic merging" meanwhile isn't even a thing. that two hunks in a file didn't collide has no bearing on whether they semantically ought to coexist.
trinque: Framedragger: your branches are merely pointers to different heads in a tree
Framedragger: ftr there's now a kind of deployment process so i have to make changes in dev branch, make a commit, and then pull from a separate repo which has the dev branch as its upstream. AND I LIKE IT THAT WAY!!1
Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160908/from:62/to:62#62 << okay okay i'll disable the "be able to spit out multiple lines" thing on bot until a saner thing is conjured (like being able to send multiple lines to some user via privmsg). if you have to manually edit urls every time that's just crazy
ascii_zimbabwe: why the hell would you back up a node ?
BingoBoingo: OMG and I, I live in a rural backwater?!
mircea_popescu: lol this dumb shit seriously exist ? "find a gold digger online dot com" ?
mircea_popescu: fatlogic. so fat woman isn't going to tell him all he wants ot hear ; this is a skinny chick skill only.
mircea_popescu: !~later tell asciilifeform it's either a short church hymn or (as used here) the "general rule".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's a tropar
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Error: "s" is not a valid command.
BingoBoingo: Looks like MAO-ism in the Nepali sense where every political party is a different kind of MAOist party
asciilifeform: ^ we had a word.
mircea_popescu: but in any case : you couldn't just BUY a hotel reservation. you had to get tickets.
mircea_popescu: by herself ?! what, as a 12yo or w/e ?!
mircea_popescu: miners wanted at least a whif of the pussy.
mircea_popescu: so.. handful of girlz, yes, and a bunch of dorks, yes. numbers check out.
mircea_popescu: anyway, re "handful of biological women" : there was at no point in the history of porn that i;m aware of, a differential lower than three degrees of magnitude between the chick count and the dork count.
mircea_popescu: much like kid in soviet lands, with a catalogue for to apply stamps for a prize. there's the spaces clearly delineated ; and no stamps. ever.
asciilifeform: none of these folk are getting arse welts any more than they'll be dragged on a rope under dirigible.
mircea_popescu: currently appears as "coven of women wanted to be slaves - as women often do ; ended up stuck with a bunch of beta dorks, because whereby to get a master! did the best possible under circumstances, which is... at best pretty fucking weird."
asciilifeform: i disagree that they are wholly a snore. rather, valuable entomological specimens. they rode the libertard train to its logical final stop. e.g., EMULATED people are posited to exist, in the future projecting (yes) into the past which 'created' them, and have 'rights.'
mircea_popescu: anyway. that's a slave collar on her yes ?
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-08: [01:57:58] <BingoBoingo> I was not surprised twas a white gurl
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160908/#132 << i'm very fucking surprised, sounded just like a derpy dude.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160908/#111 << sounds like a well trained slave.
asciilifeform: 'More protein per calorie than a Big Mac, less sugar than a banana. The energy bar has grown up.'
asciilifeform: '​ENJOY A 25-HOUR DAY​​'
shinohai wouldn't be surprised if this thing has fix-a-flat titjob
asciilifeform: 'MealSquares let you eat a balanced variety of whole foods without having to study nutrition, carefully plan meals, or go grocery shopping. Learn what's in a square, read our FAQ, or become a beta tester.'
asciilifeform: shinohai: i dun think synthetic tits happen on a javascript wage.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. <nick> may contain * as a wildcard.
asciilifeform: ( i hear they get'em belt-sanded off now-adays, but not on a javascript wage. )
BingoBoingo: I was not surprised twas a white gurl
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i do not have sufficient lsd to say what. << Go to any big box garden center. Search the housplants for a big ole San Pedro cactus, they will have at least one. Eat the whole thing.
asciilifeform: this has got to be a gag.
asciilifeform: 'I am a mealsquares-mostly eating person though! Because mealsquares are wonderful.'
asciilifeform: today a red dwarf cult, or whatever one calls those.
asciilifeform: it was a stereotypical cult eons ago.
asciilifeform: 'Hi! I live in a rationalist house in Berkeley. It sounds really cringey and not really rationalist.'
thestringpuller: nah. this book was launched as part of a "touring strategy" because 5 wheel solutions can't get any actual work
thestringpuller: a collection of his "talks" which really suck
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-07: [23:55:32] <jhvh1> shinohai: in a strange monastery with its regulations do not go
mircea_popescu: back when i was younger i wrote twenty articles a week!
scriba: [5/5] [21:35:35] <mircea_popescu> (apparently a badly balanced something or the other by steve yegge - you know, the supposedly notable derp behind http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com2006/04/lisp-is-not-acceptable-lisp.html and a whole load of java, ruby etc)
scriba: [4/5] [21:31:35] <mircea_popescu> in other random, anyone play a game called "wyvern" ?
asciilifeform: if bbet were still a thing i'd put a few coin on 'not only mr. t loses, but slobodans and takes 'wrong' blood pressure pill soon after.'
asciilifeform: if he weren't, would at least be recruiting a brownshirt legion by now, imho.
asciilifeform: hasn't happened once since, idk, the assyrians? but there is always a first.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 00:44 mircea_popescu: a government can never be solvent ; a government can never operate legally.
mircea_popescu: a significant number of three ?
asciilifeform: 'The NSA’s documents describe GHOSTHUNTER as a means “to locate targets when they log onto the internet.” It was first developed in 2006 as “the only capability of its kind” and it enabled “a significant number of capture-kill operations” against alleged terrorists. '
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/9BsSX << in other lulz. 'A classified U.S. document, dated from 2005, cautioned spy agency employees against revealing the truth. “It is important to know the established cover story for MHS [Menwith Hill Station] and to protect the fact that MHS is an intelligence collection facility,” the document stated. “Any reference to satellites being operated or any connection to intelligence gathering is strictly pro
asciilifeform: 'Lisa Boeri is a successful businesswoman obsessed with her career - on day. But on night, she is visiting private nightclub Tulpa, club where your sickest, most erotic fantasies come true.'
asciilifeform: and we were short a decimation
trinque: somewhere a pull-starter clacks
asciilifeform: somebody oughta buy that fella a new set of pistons for his modem.
jhvh1: shinohai: in a strange monastery with its regulations do not go
asciilifeform: (missing metaobject protocol - no introspection; lack of even such a basic thing as the mix-in)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-07#1536550 << java/cpp-style oop is not actually oop, but a kind of u.s. mba-endorsed mental bonsaikittenation . ☝︎
asciilifeform: xemacs was a kind of gavinatronic clone.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 23:10 mircea_popescu: "So XEmacs has never been a particularly good tool for serious Emacs users because even though it's written in C, it crashes like a mature C++ application." mwahahaha
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-07#1536560 << emacs, like unix earlier, or much later - bitcoin, was a shitprototype that got stuck in battlefield use ~forever. ☝︎