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mod6: <+asciilifeform> ^ the corrected patch. << I've got these changes in now.

asciilifeform: i'ma never live this down, will i.

asciilifeform: mpidump shows the thing you end up seeing in pgpdump -i.

asciilifeform: ( aaaaaanyway my ORIGINAL aim when i wrote the tester, was to look at what happens at 4096 and above. which i haven't even done yet ..! )

mircea_popescu: anyway, with your code i don't get your results.

asciilifeform: i suppose i gotta do one last, sane run nao.

asciilifeform: shall i say it or has everyone already figured it out.

asciilifeform: so far i am at a loss as to how one becomes the other.

mircea_popescu: i dunno but the p an q in your example share nothing useful.

asciilifeform: which is why i post the actual in and out, instead of contents of my head.

asciilifeform: yes i did, lel

asciilifeform: did i push that button??

asciilifeform: i'ma let one of you fellers tell me when i wake up why 11 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 also didn't happen

asciilifeform: see folks, this is why i didn't qntra this yet, dun wanna pons&fleischmann it.

mod6: i can do 2.0.30 with this ^ if that helps

asciilifeform: i'll walk through here:

mod6: i can regen tho

mod6: oh, i did the same. "asdf" iirc.

mircea_popescu: atm i can't takle the aggravation of bulding anything.

asciilifeform: pgpdump -i foo.asc

asciilifeform: is this obvious or do i need to draw picture.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform trivial for me to dump these i just generated, let's see

mod6: i'll do one more

mod6: i can sure.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you look at the 4kb thing i published : there's no actual contiguity. just fields of double FFs

mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm giving up on this bs. gnupg 2.0 doesn't even exist, contrary to nonsense noise on social media.

asciilifeform: boolcrap1: i promise, you'll like this one.

boolcrap1: I'm not sure im that dedicated to trilema yet

asciilifeform: i built it, refuses to run without 'gpg-agent'

asciilifeform: this is, i warned, quite laborious.

mod6: mircea_popescu: so, instead of doing all the things with --prefix, i just started straight out building all the deps and installing them.

mod6: i can'gnupg-2.0.30 to build either

mircea_popescu: i figure i just go "x/path" lessee.

asciilifeform: not, at least, without some strange heathen magic, which i apparently lack here.

mircea_popescu: so now, if i put the path in autogen.rc, nothing happens.

asciilifeform: hey there was a reason i did not start with gpg2.

mircea_popescu: how do i build libgcrypt then ?

asciilifeform: libgcrypt, i mean

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm not even bothering with that crapolade nao.

asciilifeform: the copy i happen to have pulled from my arse at this moment is 1.5.1.

mircea_popescu: i'm still untangling wtf it does to get primes.

mircea_popescu: i'm an optimistic kinda guy.

asciilifeform: do i need to keep going, draw a picture ?

asciilifeform: i promise, it will hurt.

asciilifeform: well now i did.

asciilifeform: aaah did i ever mention that gcc 5.x won't build gpg 1.4.x ??

mircea_popescu: i couldn't have said it better myself.

mircea_popescu: I blame Eric Raymond and to a lesser extent Dave Winer for bringing this kind of schlock writing onto the Internet. Raymond is the original perpetrator of the "what is a hacker?" essay, in which you quickly begin to understand that a hacker is someone who resembles Eric Raymond. Dave Winer has recently and mercifully moved his essays off to audio, but you can still hear him snorfling cashew nuts and talking at length about wh ☟︎

mircea_popescu: pe I am not the only to find this highly suspicious.

mircea_popescu: " In Paul Graham's world, as soon as oil paint was invented, painting techniques made a discontinuous jump from the fifteenth to the twentienth century, fortuitously allowing Renaissance painters to paint a lot like Paul Graham. And the difficult problems the new medium supposedly helped painters solve just happened to resemble the painting problems that confront an enthusiastic but not particularly talented art student. I ho

mircea_popescu: also, i had never read that dabblers and blowhards essay before, but good god is graham unfucking bearable AND ALSO remarkably undistinguishable from every other foss idiot, from o reilly to who have you, if distilled like that.

asciilifeform: the correlant is the FIRST key generated (i.e. primary key)

mircea_popescu: it was all published in "i can't believe it's not a journal"

mircea_popescu: then they mysteriously kept copy/pasting the wrong digits off each other and i'm supposed to what, look the other way ?

mod6: <+asciilifeform> folks who only have mircea_popescu's business card - are. << ah, i see what you're sayin'

mod6: i had to hand crank mine up to 512

asciilifeform: not i.

asciilifeform: eh dafuq am i doing, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/522b89a1-b759-40c4-9c04-56bd9316323f/?raw=true

shinohai: I could totally make a bidness out of this. Branding!

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> asciilifeform the incredible gall of the imbecile, to actually state it as "This bug does not affect the default generation of keys" << i mean srsly. since 1998!?

judywatson: http://i.imgur.com/lxWg8Uh.png?1

mod6: <+asciilifeform> https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2016-6313 << ok, click on patches at the bottom, then 'diff', yields the diffs. << werd. thx. i had to resort to cloning the gnupg gitrepo and doing diffs.

mircea_popescu: i c

mircea_popescu: o i mean danielpbarron not asciilifeform

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: hold off on publication, i'ma revise a bit.

danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-16#1522544 << related : http://pre14.deviantart.net/3f15/th/pre/i/2012/233/8/1/2012_aircraft_pool_party___complete_by_wsache007-d5bx09w.png ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i dunno about that.

phf: i know, i know, that's an ongoing mp vs ascii dialog

a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 21:30 phf: i believe, that there's a man, somewhere in the bowels of meta-nsa, who can see the entire puzzle picture

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523516 << i don't. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 19:41 Framedragger: asciilifeform: grep is amazingly fast because it does it in a smart way (you prolly know). i can give some number but i expect the q is rhetorical (i.e.: it's fast) :)

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i will write it. brb.

asciilifeform: during my audit of the rng routine, i barfed at the whitening and stopped reading.

asciilifeform: i find it interesting.

phf: i believe, that there's a man, somewhere in the bowels of meta-nsa, who can see the entire puzzle picture ☟︎

phf: it's the same technique that log uses to search entries, but i lose becase individual chunks of text are not necessarily sequential or localized by page. asciilifeform's for question though is about the fact that simply picking up 100G, page by page, from disk into ram, is expensive

Framedragger: asciilifeform: grep is amazingly fast because it does it in a smart way (you prolly know). i can give some number but i expect the q is rhetorical (i.e.: it's fast) :) ☟︎

asciilifeform: if a new one is discovered tomorrow - i will consider it, also.

asciilifeform: theoretically any ~inexpensive~ attack, such that i can do it against the whole collection of mods, is fair game.

PeterL: my old key was 1024, I think

mircea_popescu: "i'm gonna rape you" "i dun believe" *rapes her* "tee hee, my filling is stil lattached to this cavity"

mircea_popescu: these you somehow transform into i have nfi what, but the fact remains : whether the cock went through the cervix into the uter or not,

asciilifeform: i even believe in the authenticity of the cisco crud, it is simply not esp. interesting

asciilifeform: i'll believe, when, e.g., the recipe for taking 100MB of aes ciphertext and distilling out the key, is posted.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform need i quote at you btw ? "i will believe it when crown jewels leak" ? do you believe now ?

mircea_popescu: for my sins i ended up with split log situation

a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 17:13 phf: Framedragger: i was young and a bum, i recognized all these people because my entertainment machine would reinforce their presence for me. "oh jwz is talking. oh now it's ptacek. oh it's paul graham! squee". but they were always in a different category from say norvig or knuth or naggum. once i started doing and learning (i.e. painfully read knuth, rather than just have him on my shelf) i finally was able to grok the difference.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523293 << by the way, i don't think the implication of that discussion can't possibly be understated. for instance, it is a common etatist criticism of "what they call bitcoin" so really, tmsr, that "everyone running a business has an incentive to eventually run so eventually will" sort of thing. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 17:33 phf: but when i made it to the first startup school, my reaction was "nerds trying to be businessmen, stick to doing nerd things". it took me many years to understand how their fundamental views made them not only suck at life, but also fucked up the computing.

phf: ahaha, sorry i got it

mircea_popescu: but why the red ones majesty ? well... if i get hurt, the troops won't see the blood and won't lose heart.

phf: no, but i suspect it's a holly relic now

phf: but when i made it to the first startup school, my reaction was "nerds trying to be businessmen, stick to doing nerd things". it took me many years to understand how their fundamental views made them not only suck at life, but also fucked up the computing. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 16:31 mircea_popescu: i perceive the following problem : in my (rightful) bashing of idiocies (allinged around "colored coins", "dao" etc, that jazz) i distinctly hear the crushed hopes of people who look at those as a refuge from something else, specifically. i suspect it's hwqat you call "anarchists"

Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523161 << you know, that's an apt characterization, and i think you're right re that second group of wanna-be anarchists; true, probably. and i am aware that tmsr regards bitcoin *quite* differently indeed, which manifests in the block size discussion etc. yeah. ☝︎

phf: i don't really think his message changed, it's just that he started talking about different things. there's the lisper period and then the hackernew/yc/startupschool period. i knew of him, because of the excellent On Lisp book, so i read hackers and painters when it came out, and read that dabblers and blowhards article when it came out, possibly because i thought that hackers and painters was awful (the book literally has low

Framedragger: (i may be mistaken about the actual number of years)

asciilifeform: i have them here.

Framedragger: phf: probably ~7 years ago, give or take; i predict what you're going to say: in 2009, he was already spewing too much nonsense