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mircea_popescu: !~later tell diametric do you know of a good reason a 2-3kg chopper couldn't be built on aluminum alloy frame ? not whether it is, nor why afficionado's don't, but whether couldn't.
mircea_popescu: and a kg of duralumin hull will cut a hole through a pile of plastic choppers.
asciilifeform: and this is , unlike much of the other matter, not a theoretical question, folks have sweated over 'what is the smallest aluminum chopper that can fly' , read them, not me.
mircea_popescu: so basically, a beam made of 1kg of plastic could be made of 1gram of duralumin.
asciilifeform: once in a while you hear of a fella who got carried away at the controls, lost his head.
mircea_popescu: but really - using plastic for a serious (as opposed to toy) chopper is stupid, you want duralumin anyway
mircea_popescu: also the chopper not being a plane, it can tolerate a lot more than the warthog could.
asciilifeform: firing, e.g., luger, from a toy chopper, is roughly similar to the notion of firing 'big bertha' from a 'warthog'.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 30mm GAU-8/A Ammunition - Orbital ATK: <https://www.orbitalatk.com/defense-systems/armament-systems/30mm/docs/GAU-8A_Fact_Sheet.pdf>; PGU -46/ B HEI - Orbital ATK: <https://www.orbitalatk.com/defense-systems/armament-systems/30mm/docs/PGU-46B_Fact_Sheet.pdf>; GAU-8 Avenger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_Avenger>
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this was, believe or not, a problem even for large plane.
mircea_popescu: anyway. 38 shot is about 300 W at barrel exit. for a 3kg shooter this translates to say 10 m/s
asciilifeform: ... before we lose this thread, i will point out that the correct projectile weapon for a toy flyer is 'gyrojet' rocket.
asciilifeform: whack it with a table tennis paddle.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: buy a toy and try it.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 14:02 mircea_popescu: incidentally, how the fuck did the "butterfly" misspelling of a flutterby catch on ?
asciilifeform: sorta same reason why 'virtual glove' never is able to simulate banging your fist on a hard table, it always ends up being a 'gellatin' table.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh, what, it can't handle a few g's ? why not ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the small chopper that fires so much as a 'bb' accurately and stays upright is afaik yet unsolved problem.
mircea_popescu: chopper should also be able to fire a 38 yes.
asciilifeform: great with a balanced diet of that 30w laser diode.
mircea_popescu: also, a chopper fleet able to do anon cctv takeout missions is something with a future.
mircea_popescu: eh, the plane-to-glider conversion is a sort of "my car is also a submarine"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as implicit here, "be a station in flight"
mircea_popescu: that "lift" plane generates comes at a massive cost
Framedragger: (for the logs - http://www.pi-in-the-sky.com/ - yes this is more of a toy - still)
asciilifeform: (he had - and afaik still has - a 'drop sealed champaigne bottles from airplanes, with messages, track currents' project)
asciilifeform: some years ago i had a very lengthy exchange with al schwartz about an ocean bottle relay
mircea_popescu: anyway. this sketch of a discussion should suffice to show that the enemy has no hope of ever getting a perimeter around the network again.
Framedragger: microhabs are like a chip with cell, mass in grams
mircea_popescu: dirigible very workable as a 2-3kg quadcopper
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if i wanted it to stay put i'd simply add a baloon.
asciilifeform: we also had a thread some years ago about flying machines draping parasitic inductor-powered relays on power lines, etc.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: a month >> "stationkeeping time", so there's that. and they can be super cheap. and mass-produced. a HAB army anyone?
Framedragger: i think you may be disappoint at the amount of stationkeeping time you can do on quadcopter or w/e, even with a large solar cell which then surely will render a larger radar profile; but maybe i'm mistaken - interesting
asciilifeform: and pops in a month or so.
asciilifeform: thing is still visible from half a continent away on radar.
Framedragger: there exist very small HABs with basically just a transmitter/repeater and super small solar cell, fwiw
asciilifeform: ergo not a suitable instrument for the bite of 10,000,001 gnats against the back of a dying sovereign.
asciilifeform: (how long could it sit put at a few km altitude if it had solar battery etc.)
asciilifeform: it would significantly complicate enemy triangulation, if you had a great many.
mircea_popescu: the thing with the 10minute / 2km range is that in most circumstances, this is a half hour distance. if you have to drive it - gotta park, unpark, holy shit. most people live within 2km of their friends anyway.
asciilifeform: esp. if all you're trying to do is to cover a 10min flight range.
mircea_popescu: this is not a design concern at this level.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this presupposes a 100% landing rate, and a time 0 to encipher and fill the stick, and then to empty it
asciilifeform: as a receiver it's pretty good (but no shortwave without a freq. down-converter, iirc)
mircea_popescu: another thing i'd like to see prototyped is quadcopter mediated data exchange. have the guy plug out a usb stick from one back panel, fly it over, plug it into another back panel.
Framedragger: and, you know, listening to them weird russian number stations and pulsars http://www.rtl-sdr.com/using-the-rtl-sdr-as-a-transmitter/
asciilifeform: it is not a useful way to do anything.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ah yeah, that's what it'd be called then. (there is some experimental stuff but nvm, http://www.rtl-sdr.com/using-the-rtl-sdr-as-a-transmitter/ )
asciilifeform: which is a quite useful thing, both for 'i can hear my keyboard across the street, wtf', other experiments, but also for picking up eventually mircea_popescu's shortwave.
asciilifeform: 'rtl-sdr' (i have a couple here) are cheapo programmable wideband ~receivers~
Framedragger: yawell, don't forget, routing is not a trivial problem. this is only the very beginning, i think. an occasion nonetheless though, surely!
mircea_popescu: truth being that this is a historical occasion, with actually correct, well designed internet within grasp
mircea_popescu: but honestly, gossipd as a finished product can not possibly come other than with a mesh-over-wifi and mesh-over-radio ready made.
mircea_popescu: (it's also a wonder why they don't teach girls to masturbate in sex ed / have special sherub camps etc.)
mircea_popescu: coming next on trilema, a butterfly classification by preferred wrist motion. learn to distinguish the circular girl from the more common sideways girl and the very rare vertical motion girl.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, how the fuck did the "butterfly" misspelling of a flutterby catch on ? ☟︎
Framedragger: you may want to put an update linking to the new doc in http://trilema.com/2015/artifexd-a-better-ircd-rfc/ mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: in any case more than what slashdot provides. so there could be a dark slashdot somewhere ?
mircea_popescu: no, we're talking 17k different ips, plenty with garbled or no user agent, so you know. linked behind a password "protected" forum or w/e. ☟︎
asciilifeform: because i confess, i refreshed it a buncha times
asciilifeform: and relatedly, i have a proposed cut of the gordian knot, but now i gotta write it up
mircea_popescu: well, it's the 2nd most read article this month, which i've never seen before for a recent piece.
mircea_popescu: a good part of why "shared hosting" as a fiction for the masses moved to "cloud hosting" as a fiction for the masses being that there was already no way to secure a lamp environment enough to multiuser it.
mircea_popescu: afaik this was known for a decade
mircea_popescu: the "secret tx pool" thing is trivial in theory ; in practice it opens you to a whole cat and mouse game and it didn't seem to me we're there yet.
mircea_popescu: a question for teh ages.
mircea_popescu: ifeform, and that there's a trilema article on this topic ; and finally that italians do it better : http://66.media.tumblr.com/fc49140463f06998aa16e4dde0f9217f/tumblr_ny6xzbsqoG1revz5to1_500.gif )
mircea_popescu: (notice also, for the sake of stating the obvious - that what glyphs one's monitor displays is a matter of local configuration ; that if one wishes to type ζ and have a certain bot respond with a search that someone is encouraged to look into macros, keybindings, or whatever solution of this problem his locale prefers ; finally that nothing keeps asciilifeform from getting phf to have a111 behave any arbitrary way in #asciil
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 10:00 mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#76 << i recall explaining then, but i guess it didn't stick : the fact that transactions are malleable means no such thing as a "high only" pool may exist - others can malleate your "high only" txn and mine them as lows. meanwhile network effects prevent you building a mining farm that mines high-s txn : unless you control a significant portion of the hash, you will just mine orphans.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al : would be imho spiffy if one could get a sexprtronic list of commands out of a bot in pm
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, truly there isn't, and truly tis a problem. but your question wasn't "hey, shouldn't we have a canonical manual of commands or something ?" to which the answer would have been "go, write" rather than tomato.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 09:32 mircea_popescu: Framedragger be a darling move it to !$ thanks.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1539827 << mircea_popescu throws rotten tomato at me but afaik there is not a canonical manual of commands, nor is it possible to find whether the latest knob rewiring took, without brute test of three or four of these ☝︎
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [03:35:52] <BingoBoingo> To celebrate these 9/12 phuctorings https://i.sli.mg/0FzhV3.png A SEASON!
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 09:39 mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#37 << one wonders, of course, if hanno boeck ( http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ ) is stuck in an airport somewhere furiously editing his speech on his "research" which entirely consists of repackaging material published by the republic for his dorky friends with internet / mental disabilities. or whether they'll just publish an incomplete list and pretend no
mircea_popescu: just bear this in mind, there's no stupid questions, only stupid people. and deciding the venue of a question decides the venue of the answer, which is a major problem, as it conflicts with a fundamental principle ( ie http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-07#1536621 ). ☝︎
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: but you don't think there may be a problem with flood of messages in the network across all "channels" / topics? it'd be neat if there was a way for a node to specify that it's only interested in things (specified by prefix, as in your example) under #trilema
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: so i'll write a short comment
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [11:08:04] <Framedragger> mircea_popescu, asciilifeform: regarding gossipd, aside from the central point of disagreement, regarding a "lighter" matter: what about subscribing/unsubscribing to "topics" (a kind of pubsub model)? because there's no discussion of multiparty chat as of now; or is there not to be, in gossipd?
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 11:08 Framedragger: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform: regarding gossipd, aside from the central point of disagreement, regarding a "lighter" matter: what about subscribing/unsubscribing to "topics" (a kind of pubsub model)? because there's no discussion of multiparty chat as of now; or is there not to be, in gossipd?
shinohai remembers this scam site called "mybitcoinjob.com" that was being hosted on a cellphone and could be dos'd with a simple nmap scan.
davout: danielpbarron: you still hosting on a tamagotchi or sthg?
Framedragger: (the PoC seems neat, with a custom bogus malloc library that mysql is told to use by a malicious config file loaded by malicious mysql trigger)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform: regarding gossipd, aside from the central point of disagreement, regarding a "lighter" matter: what about subscribing/unsubscribing to "topics" (a kind of pubsub model)? because there's no discussion of multiparty chat as of now; or is there not to be, in gossipd? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, a good measure of power is the overlap between "judiciously" and "it fucking pisses me off".
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#76 << i recall explaining then, but i guess it didn't stick : the fact that transactions are malleable means no such thing as a "high only" pool may exist - others can malleate your "high only" txn and mine them as lows. meanwhile network effects prevent you building a mining farm that mines high-s txn : unless you control a significant portion of the hash, you will just mine orphans. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ima skip the endless deluge of similar idiocy in between the two quoted points. stop whining like an impotent retard who has internalized his impotence and consequently whines as loudly as he can and does not stick to his whining a moment later. it's unseemly.
mircea_popescu: memorialized examples include you bitching about phuctor's hosting for spurious reasons, which resulted in enemy thanking us for a year of downtime. i had hoped you learned lesson, but ferrocranium is severe with you.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [04:10:57] <asciilifeform> can we have a perma-moratorium on this nonsense ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#61 << we can have a perma moratorium on the following nonsense : you tend to bitch loudly about irrelevant shit. stop doing it. it's a waste of your time ; and it significantly degrades your standing.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [03:35:52] <BingoBoingo> To celebrate these 9/12 phuctorings https://i.sli.mg/0FzhV3.png A SEASON!
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#37 << one wonders, of course, if hanno boeck ( http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ ) is stuck in an airport somewhere furiously editing his speech on his "research" which entirely consists of repackaging material published by the republic for his dorky friends with internet / mental disabilities. or whether they'll just publish an incomplete list and pretend no ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#30 << just a friendly reminder that prb dun work is all.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger be a darling move it to !$ thanks. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: should have a proper list of commands rather than a few words description of what it does though. ☟︎
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [03:10:19] <pete_dushenski> speaking of making use of blogs, i've taken the liberty of compiling the various #trilema bots, their calls, and their functions onto a single page >> bots.contravex.com
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [02:28:46] <shinohai> danielpbarron arrested for planting a bomb: http://archive.is/vsGpQ
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#9 << a) that dude looks too much like a dork to be dpb ; b) notice how many of these schmucks are wanted for "the dpr crime", aka "said heretic things to usg agents while unaware of their being usg agents, facts to which usg agents swear" ?
ben_vulpes: one of the other things i had scribbled down is that asciilifeform wants a crypto-hard wall against "teh ddos", and mircea_popescu appears satisfied that uninformed idiots who can't find keys are enough of a pill against the ddos. i don't see how this is an improvement on the ip address, which the average netizen is entirely uncognizant of.