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ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: holy shit did you get a bouncer?
asciilifeform: trinque is apparently a case of chemist who forgot-before
trinque: chopped a bunch of them and went ahead and touched my eye
phf: PeterL: search now case insensitive, but for english only. lmk if there are still issues. i kind of hacked it up by mapping A-Z to a-z during read. pretty sure last time i read the paper i had some elegant solution in mind, but it's been so long, i've forgotten what it was
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 13:58 mircea_popescu: no, we're talking 17k different ips, plenty with garbled or no user agent, so you know. linked behind a password "protected" forum or w/e.
trinque: would if freenode weren't a lying sack of hanno
trinque: I'm not adding a bunch of retarded state to my bot to be polite to phf's et al
trinque: the prefixes were a good idea *because people's fucking bots wont stay up*
asciilifeform: alternatively i can print out a wall chart for myself once mircea_popescu is done randomly rearranging these...
trinque: send the bot in question a "help" pm
asciilifeform: i'ma throw a very basic likbez into a comment, and possibly expand on it later.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you should prolly write a lighthouse thingamajig spec and ping trilema.
asciilifeform: it's a crowd?!
mircea_popescu: lose out on that whole "i want to fuck a quadriplegic" crowd.
phf: i suspect nobody cares enough to bid on a desert at $7 million bezzles, what would be the appeal?
phf: a moving object on such a flat space will light up with even most cursory of sweeps, so you can keep the whole concentration camp aspect under the radar
phf: it's a very large and flat desert, there's no "just walking in" without being noticed. all they need to do is line of sight the perimeter more often than it'll take you to get to perimeter
mircea_popescu: we didn't stay anyway, i have a very short tolerance for pompous idiocy these days. but i imagine the whole "ticket to go to desert camp" must be very much the same thing. what, they got chicken wire around the perimeter and watchtowers ?
mircea_popescu: we show up, it's like a locked door. but i happen to know the doorman, so he opens up and we go in, at which point girly wants... to see id.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, i was recently invited at some "theatric performance" in a very nice old building here, i suppose the local best-effort equivalent of one of those ny things, artsy chicks daughters/wives of lawyers etc.
mircea_popescu: it is turning into a thing of beauty.
trinque: mircea_popescu: nope. you have to buy a ticket to go to equality camp.
asciilifeform: it isn't a thing in english quite yet.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at a young enough age though, it easily passes for "age specific idiocy" and you don't notice.
asciilifeform: fwiw i can smell the jwz from a continent away, and have never felt much desire to go.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the problem is evidently that the few were afraid of the many ; and the many smelled this and fucked them. wealth isn't actually involved, tis a matter of fear.
mircea_popescu: i suppose at a young age merely rubbing on a large aggregate of human bodies counts as a use.
asciilifeform: i am at a loss re any other use.
asciilifeform: because as i understand 'burningman', it is a similar item
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: ideally a burn is based on willing participants following a set of principles i.e. decommodification. Traditionally this results in wealth being "non existent". But ideals and actuality are usually different.
asciilifeform: whatever would make a difference.
mircea_popescu: for the same money they could try to become a cat-dragon or w/e. try with all their might, they still don't get to.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#770 << this is a luxury. as all other luxuries, strictly reserved for the rich.
asciilifeform: fwiw it isn't the 'cooked rat' that puts asciilifeform off the fest, but the '9 people in a bathroom'
mircea_popescu: optionality follows wealth not will. this is a point young dicklets love to eschew, which is why violence is a societal requirement.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand, the tension comes from burningman having once been a 'poorfag resort' where folks pretend that mircea_popescu doesn't exist, etc.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [18:31:52] <thestringpuller> 70k people go to burning man and establish camps. a small few who aren't really burners just, SF-folk who wanna do drugs and "party" would buy rvs and stuff
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#761 << yeah well tell you what, when i go to http://trilema.com/2016/lxs-ninxs/ i ALSO don't go to eat cooked rats and live with nine other people in a bathroom. i go to enjoy the cheap local cunt while preserving my luxurious lifestyle.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in case this wasn't obvious from the comment, the 'lighthouse' scheme is a variant of 'd-c', rather than 'sh', but with some of the advantages of the latter.
ben_vulpes: yeah i mean if you buy that i've got a ticket to this other desert festival to sell ya
thestringpuller: ^- the camp in question was turning the experience into a commodity...
phf: thestringpuller: burning man is not a TAZ, so i've no idea what you're talking about
asciilifeform: phf: it was a mindfuck a year or two ago reading about burningman's internal usg camp.
phf: asciilifeform: well, i don't know the details of "white ocean" camp in question, but it usually involved souped up rv's, a staff of paid employees to do your cooking for you, often direct flight from wherever to black rock city airport, etc.
thestringpuller: and then have basically burning man "Hotel style" which fine, but it was a "closed camp" which
thestringpuller: 70k people go to burning man and establish camps. a small few who aren't really burners just, SF-folk who wanna do drugs and "party" would buy rvs and stuff
thestringpuller: out of the other 70k people a group of them were probably like "fuck deez guys" went ot their camp and fucked it up
asciilifeform: it is almost as joyous a thing as the old reed switch keyboards in ru.
asciilifeform: calibrated the sensitivity a little low.
asciilifeform: it is a bitch to get together.
asciilifeform: there is a spring mechanism.
asciilifeform: likewise do NOT try to paint the plastic clips that retain the stabilizer wires on long keys. pop'em out by pushing with a blunt pencil from the bottom side. they will happily sit back in later.
asciilifeform: do not try to paint the legs, or the wells they rotate in. i did, and then had to scrape the paint off with a knife, they did not want to turn. the tolerances are quite surprisingly fine.
phf: picked them up from a retrohardware person i know. pretty sure i burned some respect points for being "the retrokeyboard faggot"
asciilifeform: phf: the hard part is to actually get a hold of a 'model f'. ☟︎
PeterL: phf is there a way to make search on logs non-case sensitive?
phf: i was thinking of just doing a mess of wires, but there was that shop floating around in the logs, that would print a pcb for you and put chips on it
BingoBoingo: At is age and weight the edema has likely already capon-ized his cajones. All that's left of historical Trump the bankruptcy artist is a stimulant habit and sorry for his loss.
asciilifeform: last time they had a pres who wasn't a capon, they had to shoot him.
mircea_popescu: yeah imagine that, you'd expect obama'd have upgraded to a recent model sometime in the past 8 years.
asciilifeform: incidentally perhaps mircea_popescu remembers this, but '-connect' results in a node that no one can ever connect to.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if either of my trbtrons aren't answering, now or whenever, gimme a ping
asciilifeform: eh i can see a, e.g., michele obama, switcheroo, but not the old fart.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, what's the current list of public trb nodes ? i have -connect=108.31.170.49 54.187.227.228 46.166.165.30 91.218.246.31 172.86.178.46 50.168.67.12 of which a coupla be answering.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: Um. I met a hobbyist once who spent 10 grand on a plane. Point for Traffic Delivery Bypasser is to be resusable not "disposable".
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, the usb-bandwidth drone could in principle be designed with two batteries. it starts using one, then when dead moves to other. and design could allow for drone tango - where they connect, as per ancient thread with alf, to make bigger drone - which could conceivably allow them to swap batteries, in a strange sort of robomating dance)
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: large amounts of nitro fuel << hobby shops don't seem to care. People go through barrels of the thing during a nerdy weekend with friends on the airfield.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [16:01:39] <ben_vulpes> and just how does one 'refuel' a qc in flight, hot swap lipo?
asciilifeform: now all you have is... a spark plug and pipe.
thestringpuller: was a joke. the one you sent is a pretty advanced version :P
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [15:46:35] <asciilifeform> and in particular, '...a large bird such as an eagle or kite does not keep in the air mainly by moving its wings. It is generally to be seen soaring, that is to say balanced on a rising column of air. And even soaring becomes more and more difficult with increasing size. Were this not the case eagles might be as large as tigers and as formidable to
thestringpuller: The only reason the RC plane-UAV dropoff service became a thing was due to insurmountable traffic.
thestringpuller: You'll see a few muthafuckers with those things on the airfield. I dunno how "reliable" they are tho. Then again, I'm not enough of a pilot to even call myself a hobbyist.
thestringpuller: For one two stroke engine planes are from the fucking 50's. Those are antiques. Most advanced hobbyist used nitro powered planes. They are slightly noisier than RC model, but given how high you can fly them in practice it's kinda whatever. Second, the autonomous part has been around since the arduino became "mainstream" albeit asciilifeform may find it a snore fest the APM unit can fully control an RC plane. If programmed properly it
PeterL: I thought "drone" was just a less-TLA-y version of "UAV"?
ben_vulpes: "drone" is a made up product category by mattel
thestringpuller: "drone" is a general term ben_vulpes NO NEED to get all riled up
ben_vulpes: and just how does one 'refuel' a qc in flight, hot swap lipo?
trinque: said a bunch of vague and refueling in spookyquotes
ben_vulpes: "discreen delivery with drones in this manner" is a quadcopter per the guardian link
ben_vulpes: small market of remote delivery could be served by a fleet of autonomous, gas-fueled fixed-wings.
ben_vulpes: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/22/drone-carrying-drugs-crashes-near-mexican-us-border << why people do this and not fixed wing is a mind-boggle
thestringpuller: his master idea is having a mobile charging network for long distance flights
thestringpuller: i kno. but i've talked with a hobbyist turned "professional" and does discreet delivery with drones in this manner. they've gotten highly advanced.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: So. Turns out your Drone thing is a reality.
asciilifeform: now one interesting scenario is if the flying machine dropped ~itself~ as a bomb, using propellers for course correction on the way down.
asciilifeform: one reason why ordinary airplanes drop bombs, rather than darts, is that the necessary accuracy for a dart hitting a man-sized target is not available.
asciilifeform: goes back a century.
asciilifeform: not as if subj were a new thing discovered this week.
PeterL: looks like a bullet terminal velocity is about 100 m/s, so you would reach that anywhere over 500 m.
asciilifeform: and in particular, '...a large bird such as an eagle or kite does not keep in the air mainly by moving its wings. It is generally to be seen soaring, that is to say balanced on a rising column of air. And even soaring becomes more and more difficult with increasing size. Were this not the case eagles might be as large as tigers and as formidable to man as hostile aeroplanes.'
asciilifeform: in so until it drowns. A few insects, such as water-beetles, contrive to be unwettable; the majority keep well away from their drink by means of a long proboscis.'
asciilifeform: 'A wet mouse has to carry about its own weight of water. A wet fly has to lift many times its own weight and, as everyone knows, a fly once wetted by water or any other liquid is in a very serious position indeed. An insect going for a drink is in as great danger as a man leaning out over a precipice in search of food. If it once falls into the grip of the surface tension of the water—that is to say, gets wet—it is likely to rema
asciilifeform: worth a read.
a111: Logged on 2015-02-14 05:25 asciilifeform: 'You can drop a mouse down a thousand-yard mine shaft; and, on arriving at the bottom, it gets a slight shock and walks away, provided that the ground is fairly soft. A rat is killed, a man is broken, a horse splashes.'
asciilifeform: laziness, of this type, is a sin, PeterL .
mircea_popescu: in fact, this is a study on ballistics. fire from center of mass at 3pi/4 angle, go for a parabolic ride.
asciilifeform: 'straight up' will likely convert the thing to a brick immediately.
mircea_popescu: so. that item above : for 200 bucks, can fire a 38. you will have to add some software for it to fire in a convenient direction for itself while also hitting target.
asciilifeform: they, as every aficionado knows, reliably shatter if they so much as touch a blade of grass.