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ben_vulpes: the_scourge: they have an office nearby at which i drink occasionally
the_scourge: ben_vulpes: what's youre connection to newrelic?
the_scourge: ben_vulpes: plus, the technology could probably be adapted for closed communities
the_scourge: ben_vulpes: dude i was working on it when i still believed in randos. a long time ago
the_scourge: ben_vulpes: i've been in on his weekly hangouts a few times, very very cool times
ben_vulpes: the_scourge: i don't fuck with any of that stuff.
the_scourge: ben_vulpes: if you know an implimentation of fedwiki that doesn't have js, let me know
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: scouting around
ben_vulpes: the_scourge: not only fedwiki, but it's also got all sorts of css and javascript
mircea_popescu: the_scourge the logs are actually linked in the topic. and the variety speak is http://trilema.com/2013/youre-gonna-have-to-learn-that-variety-speak/
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2013 13:34:41; bitesak: http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/1s9g0c/mtgox_is_doing_its_instant_replay_bug_again/
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: the_scourge: Not a bad log day to start on http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2013#411276 ☝︎
ben_vulpes: the_scourge: if you do it right, you'll find yourself searching through the dead logs for further context.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes also in the news, http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WhyWeHateLisp
the_scourge: ben_vulpes: ah thanks that makes sense. lurking is necessary anywhere you go. i thought he meant dead logs
ben_vulpes: <the_scourge> mircea_popescu: yah cool, i did read through some logs << some lol. the point is that you've gotta pick up the variety speak, and that comes from reading logs in near-real-time for six months, not "some" or "a few" or "the ones i found interesting and/or easy" ☟︎
BingoBoingo: the_scourge> when we started cooking our food (cause fire was a new technology at some point), our intestine shrunk by over 20%, leaving more energy for our brain << More likely shrunk as meat became nutrient fire or not. Most carnivores have short GI tracts because meat digest faster than comlex plant matter. Cell walls are a bitch to break.
BingoBoingo: <the_scourge> spirulina is far better than meat than meat as a protein source. fake bio knowledge or not, ask you local biochemist what must be done to meat before your body can digest it :D << Also even though "complete" spirulina in low in some more important amino acids
BingoBoingo: <the_scourge> spirulina is far better than meat than meat as a protein source. fake bio knowledge or not, ask you local biochemist what must be done to meat before your body can digest it :D << Must go in mouth. Even raw I digest fine.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sure
adlai: the_scourge: generally doing a log search via !s or http://search.bitcoin-assets.com will help you find context for words or ideas that seem out of place
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: jargon studies? i did read the jargon file front to back if that's what you mean. long long time ago though
asciilifeform: the_scourge: if you do not know this, you are far behind in your studies
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> dictionary = "exhaustive list of all the symbols in a conventional symbolic space, with adnotations." <<< why does it have to be exhaustive?
asciilifeform: the_scourge: the concept of 'proof of work' as it pertains to bitcoin is a very well-defied, mechanical thing. as in, machine-verifiable.
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: true but we all bring different things to the table, i could write a book on NRx history, philosophy etc: that is proof of hard work done
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't much care if all the n00bs are american generals. let'em learn a little.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu ^
adlai: the_scourge: "people who work a part-time job so they can fund another person's part-time job doing their homework"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that's how you end up with 'the spec is the implementation' crapolade
adlai: mircea_popescu: right, it's more that i'll find some really interesting book, get all excited about reading it, and then change my mind when i see a three page index
asciilifeform: the_scourge: learn ru, bookz immediately become something you get for free, instantly, and in grepable plain ascii.
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: yah cool, i did read through some logs
asciilifeform: the_scourge: generally, ascii
mircea_popescu: the_scourge generally the advice given to noobs is to read the logs for six months to a year.
nubbins`: the_scourge among other things, yes
nubbins`: the_scourge because mining at the personal level is retarded, but running a node is not.
the_scourge: yah i was going to buy a pogo for nas work at home. but then i spent $way_too_much_fiat and built a xeon one instead
asciilifeform: the_scourge: experiment with a minimal-cost bitcoin node
asciilifeform: the_scourge: 'pogo' was suggested (iirc, i suggested it) purely on account of cost (and the fact of chassis and power supply being included in the cost, pre-assembled)
asciilifeform: the_scourge: have not tried personally
trinque: the_scourge: I think it's a bit of a problem to expect anything other than barbarism from those trained to execute it at industrial scale
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: because 9 wasn't good enough!
trinque: the_scourge: seems the enslavement of soldiers has to do with the necessity of keeping them loyal/taking orders
asciilifeform: the_scourge: tactical success, as i think it well known, is not the only thing expected of a soldier
trinque: the_scourge: but directly aligned with being enslaved eh?
PeterL: mircea_popescu: "You do not have, nor you can ever acquire the right to use, copy or distribute this software" << should be "nor can you ever" ☟︎
asciilifeform: adlai, the_scourge: all of these sounds like traditional military exercises
adlai: the_scourge is describing approved exercises. i'm describing legends about what happens in elite units outside the approval and regulation of the main army bodies.
asciilifeform: the_scourge: describe, for the benefit of folks in barbaric faraway lands, some of these nuances.
gribble: ALF TV | The Official Unofficial ALF Fan Site!: <http://www.alftv.com/>; ALF (TV series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALF_(TV_series)>; ALF (TV Series 1986–1990) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090390/>
nubbins`: <+ben_vulpes> <mircea_popescu> [] why are we calling him alf again ? << Ascii Life Form? <<< nod, gw
adlai: the_scourge: now that mp gave you legal residency, you should be able to !up yourself in PM with assbot, and that lasts as long as you're connected to the channel
asciilifeform: the_scourge: 'the fiat thing' ever tries, if you notice, to walk the fine line between scam and outright expropriation/dekulakization
adlai: !up the_scourge
adlai: the_scourge: what did you serve in?
asciilifeform: the_scourge: better example - 1918, lenin's boys experimented with cancelling money.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: will respond on seeds and licenses later
asciilifeform: the_scourge: that king cannot simply order arbitrary objects monetized, or forgo the use of money entirely
asciilifeform: the_scourge: point was the 'monetization' hypothesis
asciilifeform: the_scourge: you might enjoy reminiscing with them
asciilifeform: the_scourge: we have mats and adlai here, also former (or possibly reverse) army men in various corners of usa vassal empire
asciilifeform: the_scourge: as a boy i was fond of reading ungodly quantities of ww2 minutiae. and i remember marvelling that the luftwaffe had to pay xxx reichsmarks, for, e.g., a v2 rocket. 'why did nazis have to pay for things,' i asked.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the way i understand, they were an early proxy slavecoin.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik the post-slavetriangle use of said shells is a reasonably proven fact
asciilifeform: the_scourge: but why does a particular army demand to be paid in one thing and not another ?
asciilifeform: the_scourge: why, then, were cowrie shells demonetized ?
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: they're not monetizable (paper dollars) - just like the pound
asciilifeform: the_scourge: what's the secondary use for a benjamin? cocaine straw ?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] why are we calling him alf again ? << Ascii Life Form?
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: in your soros example, what is the unmonetized commodity? surely not the gold
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l!
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for the_scourge with note: легальные резиденты
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.the_scourge.1:33e0ab5465f7642a6e1ae13ba6bbb73a29cd777a865ced5b2dfb9dd7a56197ab
mircea_popescu: !rate the_scourge 1 легальные резиденты
mircea_popescu: the_scourge what do you do for a living, and what sort of education do you have basically.
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: well what do you want to know
mircea_popescu: the_scourge who are you anyway ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: oh i see!
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i have not.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: there is too much serial raising of funds. like its a mental illness or something.
thestringpuller: !up the_scourge
thestringpuller: !up Jrum the_scourge
asciilifeform: the_scourge: you can now self-voice, as described in the assbot manual (message it with !up)
trinque: mircea_popescu: this blockchain is for deedbot
kakobrekla: the_scourge ^^
trinque: ben_vulpes and I were talking about blockchain forks when last we hacked it up, but I guess that does not mean transactions will have to be retransmitted?
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for the_scourge with note: new blood, seems like a reasonable fella, presently
asciilifeform: !v assbot:asciilifeform.rate.the_scourge.1:97ebe29eec56db08f42ab0fbddfb4b60375c862c3ec0412baac3b1e9b0f39e28
trinque: mircea_popescu: having read logs it seems like everything I was worrying about regarding timestamp-transactions is moot
asciilifeform: !rate the_scourge 1 new blood, seems like a reasonable fella, presently
asciilifeform: the_scourge: gotta be in wot and logged in to press that button
assbot: the_scourge is not registered in WoT.
kakobrekla: the_scourge see pm.
asciilifeform: the_scourge: you may be aware that bitcoin network does not function by 'vote' of the nodes.
mircea_popescu: the_scourge which one
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: can you elaborate on your assertion? i don't like making assumptions
asciilifeform: the_scourge: 'vc' around here typically refers to the american financial term
mircea_popescu: the_scourge the notion that anyone works on bitcoin or in any manner relevant to bitcoin outside of this channel is laughable on its face.
asciilifeform: the_scourge: this means bitcoin in much the same way that computing means semiconductor.