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g_l: Though I have not used it.
asciilifeform: sooo, can i, say, traverse from x,y coordinate on the screen, to the entire pyramid of objects which produced the pixel at x,y ?
g_l: When fixed one can program entirely in CLIM. I've fixed up the debugger to eval in frame, added a 'reflective apropos'
asciilifeform: showstopping how ? i built and ran a stock clim in 2007.
g_l: asciilifeform: I bitched about the two showstopping errors and gas2serra stepped in and solved the first, and is in the process of solving the second.
asciilifeform: and, in so far as i can see, all of the things that set me to barf in the past - are still there.
asciilifeform: because i happen to know that clim was a thing, and worked, so to speak, before.
asciilifeform: more to the point, i would like to learn what it is that g_l did to clim, and why it had to be done
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, i'll ask her
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when i toured a ww2 submarine museum-ship, i learned that on board there were steel plates, with matching holes, to bolt to the hatchways when doing a planned dive, in case the hatches leak. somehow i find it hard to picture modern american sailors doing any such thing. osha would have a fit.
mod6: i sure as hell didn't wanna have to go back there though for lack of a "good sample".
mod6: i was like, "don't be afraid to squeeze that thing hard."
mod6: asciilifeform: i dunno. she gingerly tried to bleed me.
mod6: needless to say, I had to fetch it for her.
mod6: the dr i went to see the other day had to be 350 lbs.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-30 15:24 mircea_popescu: "i am an engineer" "good for you" "but i'm poor" "then you aren't an engineer ?" "no, i am, it's just... the environment i come from doesn't allow for engineers. this world is so unfair!" "so then... by coming from an environment that doesn't allow for an engineer, you...aren't one ?" "NO SEE, ENVIOUS RAGE! OTHER PEOPLE ARE IN HEAVEN AND I AM IN HELL!!"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-30#1531916 << to briefly revisit subj, i would happily buy a ticket to visit the planet where there are actual engineers, doctors, etc. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: why ? i'm not that great a fan of the sea.
asciilifeform: well for that matter i have trouble picturing a mircea_popescu circa 1700 anywhere other than on proper pirate ~ship~
mircea_popescu: and honestly, if i lived in 1700 i'd have lived in pirate port
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as ridiculous as it sounds, it's true. the world's upside down, i will not trust an "honest man" because, simply put, http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160830/from:256/to:256#256
mircea_popescu: "oh but if i had a better car then definitely gf", sayz elliot. and i'm sure he's right hurr.
asciilifeform: 'i'ma pirate.' 'finally, real pro'
mircea_popescu: heh. wait till you get into the "i'm an webentrepreneurdesignmarketing" like pim kim what's her face.
asciilifeform: 'i'm engineer' 'but you're poor, fuck off' 'i'ma doctor' 'you're poor, piss off' 'i'ma steel magnate' 'lockheed paid you in IOUs, buzz off' 'i'ma ...'
mircea_popescu: "i am an engineer" "good for you" "but i'm poor" "then you aren't an engineer ?" "no, i am, it's just... the environment i come from doesn't allow for engineers. this world is so unfair!" "so then... by coming from an environment that doesn't allow for an engineer, you...aren't one ?" "NO SEE, ENVIOUS RAGE! OTHER PEOPLE ARE IN HEAVEN AND I AM IN HELL!!" ☟︎
asciilifeform: (in fact, i know of no case where it was done as pictured above. e.g., westinghouse, stopped being engineer quite certainly before becoming successful capitalist.)
asciilifeform: i may be thick, but i do not see how this can be applied by engineer.
mircea_popescu: i dunno dude, does ancient greece still exist ?
asciilifeform: i.e. modern usd is not the pound sterling of 1700.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wouldn't trust his decision. that's the point : under 110 or so, you are well advised to not even think about making these sorts of calls.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck am i going to be afraid of.
mircea_popescu: in contrast, for the past SIX FUCKING YEARS i've been pulling 100 hour weeks like nobody's business.
mircea_popescu: i dun think it ever took me more than a few days to pay for a month of costa rica or whatever, and this if i was particularly persuaded by the "don't eat from capitals" balabusta angle that month.
mircea_popescu: i have just about 0 interest in working for any of the various cans of usg soup. pre tmsr, i actually didn't work much if at all, and in retrospect i understand it's for this exact reason.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i see it pretty much the same way.
asciilifeform: i'd recommend to him to first solve his house and food problems.
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, girl is sister of guy who i play poker with
asciilifeform: this is a mega-observation, and summarizes why i have 0 interest in involvement in non-tmsr 'open sores' ever again.
asciilifeform: iirc he recently began to rewrite the whole thing. for much the same reason that i had to rewrite phuctor earlier this year.
asciilifeform: i'm willing to bet that if phf's creation were sat down on a reasonably ~sane~ lisp system, e.g., sbcl, it would run stably.
asciilifeform: i will also point out (and i have entire, lol, www, devoted to subj) that lisp on x86 pc is a sword without a hilt.
Framedragger: well my last gf turned out to be sorta-adolescent, so i'm using osmosis as excuse
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: you're probably right. problem is, site may need to be expanded later, and i hate re-doing work. but, you're probably right, in the end...
asciilifeform: what i meant was, mircea_popescu's observations about service industries and chumps are entirely, afaik, uncontroversially true, but i dun see how they connect to poor old gabriel_laddel's thing
Framedragger: OT: i don't suspect anyone's got any suggestions for a wordpress theme to use (minimalist, gonna be ~3 pages in total, no comment box) for showcasing a newly published (non-electronic) book?
asciilifeform: at any rate i have nfi what he charges. but the pitch looked like an ordinary plumbing ad.
mircea_popescu: "if you're not the customer you're the product" "oh yeah, i understand that now" "no you don't" "o look, i hadn't understood it". either you pay, or else you're getting married. these are the options. stop confusing yourself.
asciilifeform: rather than, say, 'it'll be 10btc/hr and i have nfi how long will take'
asciilifeform: i assumed that if i were to call him up with a 'i need an x before next tuesday' he will say 'pay y btc'
mircea_popescu: i can't possibly comprehend why simple logic is so hard in practical application, but. unless he says "gimme 20 btc", what he says is "marry me". there are no possible, understand ~possible~ exceptions to this.
mircea_popescu: "i'll give you 20 btc"
asciilifeform: i meant in the software deal
asciilifeform: by, presumably (i cannot support or undermine his claim, other than perhaps to point out that his 'business' appears to leave him homeless) studying ancient code and making sense thereof
asciilifeform: do i understand the term correctly ? whitelabel is something one does with a turnkey (e.g., air compressor) item
mircea_popescu: so how is this different from "in the sense that i'd whitelabel it off him ?"
mircea_popescu: ok and then i call gabriel laddel ?
asciilifeform: nah, in the sense that someone, somewhere, would 'hey i need a climization of proggy, who shall i call...'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't get it, so like, "electric car recharging" ? in the sense that i'd whitelabel it off him ?
asciilifeform: (why he posted this here, and immediately vanished, i do not know.)
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's how this whole "online" thing worked for ever and ever : "corporate" creates a baited hook ; "consumer" mistakes baited hook for fish, gives his trust to google and his data to facebook. what am i, fucken retarded ?!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i parsed the sentence in same way at first
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160830/from:158/to:158#158 << it's not clear to me what "clim support" does for a website ; i am certainly not going to expend marketing resources on some item i don't own. this last bit is particularly pernicious, incidentally - is this clim thing even breaking the law ? why the fuck am i supposed to confuse a bunch of usg-tools for my own men ?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: and i'll implement these things even if phf's bot becomes more reliable or w/e, because, decentralization!1 ☟︎
Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160829/from:606/to:606#606 << something like this? (default font, i'm not a fan of blitzy web69.0 fonts, either). i'll have some time to write the link citation part for the bot, as well as search, too. won't be today though
BingoBoingo: <mod6> not sure if i saw that one. will follow up with a blowtorch << Give more time with the heat.
trinque: I'm using 100k as limit
asciilifeform: if i had to guess.
mircea_popescu: "Earlier in the week I had taken screenshots of our Trello task board (Jessica was changing it around to make it look like I did nothing)" <<< ahahaha fucking idiot kids. "start-up", puts the motherloade of confidential/business matter on rando social media site. back at reality ranch, do that and you're fired, and you have to hire a lawyer. but in california idiot parade, they think it's about as standard as bottled water.
trinque: mod6: yeah, that's why I stopped the presses for it
mod6: i used a sanding block with low grit, grinded each face both directions real good.
mod6: i suppose sanding the surfaces with the dremel would do the trick
mod6: and i had about 5lbs of (previously frozen) tomatoes from last year was itching to use.
mod6: not sure if i saw that one. will follow up with a blowtorch
mircea_popescu: in other mainstream media news, "Join the great illuminati fatality cult today, I am agent Smith,A fully Agent of this fatality,i"
mircea_popescu: "transactions in blockchain currency" lmao. yaya tryin' really hard over there, i get it, i get it.
pete_dushenski: https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*AGKyR8YsQRwQ7st0G1QmTg.jpeg << in other middle easterery, i give you nassim taleb at age 21. looks like 37 tbh.
Framedragger: oh hey i think a111 resynced the missing log from today
asciilifeform: 'assets', but i have nfi.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: please to show where i said 'investment'
asciilifeform: now how would i know.
asciilifeform: i have nfi re elsewhere, but here in the land of the phreeee, if you have a car and it is seen on public streets, there will be tax questions
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i read the linked piece and do not understand what was interesting. kakobrekla also bought a car with btc.
mod6: <+trinque> mod6 | trinque: all done! Thanks again. :] << awesome, I'll fire it back up. << cool!
trinque: I'm back.
trinque: pete_dushenski: I am not at burning man, hate hippies too much.
trinque: mod6 | trinque: all done! Thanks again. :] << awesome, I'll fire it back up.
asciilifeform: 'Around this time, Bruce and I were sharing personal concerns and he confided in me that he had let Michael borrow $50,000 from his personal savings. Did you read that? A startup employee gave his life savings to our CEO. He wasn’t the only one. Another biz dev team bro who was crashing on the CEO’s couch, Bobby, apparently lent Michael five figures too. In disbelief, I asked why he needed money when he has $2M already committed
asciilifeform: 'Jessica, the social media manager, apparently cried when she found out I went to these meetings she wasn’t invited to.'
mircea_popescu: honeslty i was expecting the same thing. the fuck do i care about w/e that was, i can't even recall. some athlete ?
pete_dushenski: i'm a sucker for crotchety old coots.
pete_dushenski: "Why is it that grace and innocence make my knees go weak? I suppose it is because I have a view of the fairer sex more common in an era more romantic than the present. I feel more alive in the presence of beauty, but I also feel longing, both spiritual and physical. But beauty has been downgraded these past 50 years. Beautiful buildings are no longer built, just ugly, modern, so-called utilitarian ones, and
pete_dushenski: i thought it was trinque on da playa ? jeez it's a full time job to keep track of all these various netizens
mircea_popescu: it's simple : you get a girl, strip her naked, make her bend her bubble butt towards you, then you take a magic marker, write I on one half moon, C on the other
covertress: I'd like my steak tartare
asciilifeform: 'whatdayamean i gotta DIP'EM?!!111'
mircea_popescu: i don't think you understand how the cruel world works.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and i'd guess it was not 'mental issues', but the continuous thread in his life of not ever taking the sweat to get properly skilled at anything whatsoever.
asciilifeform: but he had eons to visit the shooting gallery and learn the answer to 'can i play violin? dunno never tried'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'Have you ever had occasion to see these obnoxious shits the moment there's shots fired, by the way ? I know of no better illustration of USian subhumanity than that fear. He's right : the moment he took the rifle out and started popping lightbulbs left and right, he was a God to them. Moreso than any god they ever knew or ever had' << fella had a pistol. and apparently his time at the gallery was largely wasted, hit