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mircea_popescu: anyway, sounds like cheap drama. and it can't be THAT seeing how rms used
a laptop before 2013.
mircea_popescu: dude... who the fuck wants as much as
a farthing's worth of pest control work from someone who regards their mentally deranged state as manifest in their subjective confusion re their sex as an integral part of the process ?
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-20: [15:59:38] <asciilifeform> 'Libreboot left the GNU project on 15 September 2016. The FSF revealed itself to be hostile towards trans people, so libreboot voluntarily decided to leave the GNU project, because the lead developer of libreboot is transgender herself. For those in the community who are unaware,
a transgender person is someone whose internal gender identity (in
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the penrose book is great ; and as woit aptly points out
a very good basis for groking the current affairs re qm/st/etc.
pete_dushenski: ok, reflecting on
a rather delicious romp last night, i can see the sexual == parenting angle.
mircea_popescu: depends. if you think yeast is
a metaphysical process then it indeed needn't.
mircea_popescu: (for the innocent :
a factory is, originally, where the factors go. and
a factor is someone who is empowered to handle money in relation to, eg, indian fur gatherers/traders)
mircea_popescu: anyway. funny how the adventure of "employment" played out, as
a concept.
pete_dushenski: it's also
a hell of
a way to leave one's fingerprint on the world after he's gone.
pete_dushenski: just
a curiousity,
a fascination with architecture as
a representation of culture
a111: Logged on 2016-08-15 20:48 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i find the focus on the cosmetic when the functional elements are 'dangerous to self and to others' in 1,001 ways, to be also
a typically american lunacy.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, if anyone wants to check how wordpress does latex formatting and roll
a mp-wp plugin / v update for it that'd be grand. in typical faux open source style, they're remarkably unhelpful with it (see
https://en.support.wordpress.com/latex/ )
mircea_popescu: puts
a -d in there, once, when you set it up ; builds its own flalback.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it wouldn't need to alter it however. afaik mp-wp doesn't either ; handles redirects itself like
a grown-up system ??
ben_vulpes: linter yelled at me and i did
a bit of reading
a111: Logged on 2016-04-07 18:13 phf: of course, general purpose computer was always
a device that high cast professional would sit in front in order to do computations, augmented by external systems or additional special purpose interchangeable boards. at least that was
a pretty shared vision from engelbard to symbolics before the microcomputer
a111: Logged on 2016-04-07 18:10 phf: the person that i was
a [big bank] vendor with is actually doing that right now.
a trained apl-er and mathematician, having spent few years interacting with [big bank] decision makers now consults on
a handshake basis for companies that need
a problem solved, but don't care if it comes with
a pretty windows gui
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-20: [16:40:25] <phf> well, i do posgresql for money, the appeal of tmsr work is that i can do whatever the fuck, and though that means sometimes suboptimal results, there's
a lot of merit in trying odd solutions
phf: (i had to tweak
a postgresql search lexing phase just few days ago, and fwiw it doesn't givey you "grep" out of the box. you have to do Traditional Text Search approach tokenize,lex,index by weights, etc.)
phf: well, i do posgresql for money, the appeal of tmsr work is that i can do whatever the fuck, and though that means sometimes suboptimal results, there's
a lot of merit in trying odd solutions
PeterL: I wrote
a script to submit links from logs to archive.is
phf: kind of tricky to cache search, since it's very one off. most load on server comes from searching (i mean it's miniscule still, but...), but i looked at analytics and search queries are all over the place. you have n hits from mentions, which ~might~ be worthwhile to cache. (like ascii does !#s foo, and then there's
a dozen of hits from random ips and browsers)
Framedragger: how about full text search? though i know that
a combo of caching and grep-in-memory-map mode (on an ssd, say) may be viable
phf: i guess search too, but that's kind of lateral. you can write
a bit of python code using xapian to do parsing and indexing for you, and i suspect it's going to be ballpark database speeds. postgresql's builtin search is .. special
phf: db is only worthwhile once you start writing analytics on logs. i've been doing the read directly from znc logs using regex approach for almost
a year (actually scratch that i was querying kako's logs over web), and only decided to step it up once i realized i want xref
phf: but since i don't have to expose it to wild net, and rate of checks is low, i can just have
a bottle file per task, just doing its own specific massaging
phf: well, for my own znc it has to do like
a bunch of retarded timezone conversions, but at least i sat down and thought them through this time
phf: Framedragger: i'm basically using kako's log format as
a universal exchange <id>;<unix timestamp>;<nick>;<message>, so there's
a python bottle proxy sitting on
a machine, that, very defensively, can serve
a copy of your page in
a kako format. it caches all pages that are not today, and it has like 10 second cache for today's queries, but otherwise i'm not mirroring your pages
trinque: asciilifeform: have
a preferred distributor for the sage?
Framedragger: right. see trinque, you don't see "lazy" in that context as having any descriptive context (what shinohai's pots); i do.
a simple disagreement regarding the use. but i of course have to agree with your general sentiment...
trinque: and arguing from the context of
a dead culture buys nothing. "oh this is what people say"
pete_dushenski: sounds like saying 'i'm lazy' in #trilema is like saying 'i'm
a terrorist' on
a plane
trinque: what it means is this limp dicked "I did
a thing but don't judge me pls" that produced the mountain of filth in which we live
Framedragger: sure, but by that metric most of software should be discarded
a priori. i agree it's not
a good thing; this will get fixed when other, important stuff gets fixed.
BingoBoingo: So true "Imagine
a rutabaga or an apple,
a living harbinger of an adult plant like Christ in His manger presaging the deliverance of all mankind boiled, baked, fried, sauteed, steamed, sun-dried (poor raisins!), microwaved, or roasted to death. Imagine crunching into
a fresh green pepper and listening to it scream as your molars do their dirty work. "
shinohai: pete_dushenski: bundle will still be coming to you soon, just waiting until it is fleshed out
a bit
pete_dushenski: in other reconfiguring news, fbook vs. cuba : "In Havana, my cousins were forced to listen to rambling speeches about maintaining core values inside
a one-dimensional cult of personality. In Menlo Park, I was sitting in
a tent full of people wearing identical uniforms of Facebook swag and doing the same. Back in Havana, my cousins were eyeing posters of Che and Fidel on crumbling buildings and the sides of
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform>
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160920/#37 << if this is fixable without breaking old urls, or reaching into the guts of
a ~decade-old wp install, i'm all ears << Depending on your wordpress species usually if you set up
a person readable url scheme the default numeric one continues working
scriba: Restarting for
a small update to make myself more verbose in case of trouble / exceptions / etc.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-14: [21:23:49] <phf> log. so at some point we were in "log according to btcbase" situation. with the recent move to multiple bots and more importantly multiple logs, we now have "log according to ..." model, which we can still though attempt to reconcile. once we move to gossip there can't even be
a talk of single log. it's always "log according to whoever heard and relayed it" by design.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-14: [21:23:49] <phf> asciilifeform: we started with
a single canonical log though, where kako's testimony was implicitly the word of tmsr. there was some anathem/"
A Canticle for Leibowitz" jokes about it, the log files were deeded, etc. while working on btcbase i realized that there can be no canonical log without arbitration, i.e. because of netsplits, lost messages, out of order, clock skews you need
a single author
mircea_popescu: heh. each-reads-his-own was intended as
a mechanism to encourage people to select the better package.
mircea_popescu: well if anyone starts ddosing you, it'll be
a matter of robustify :)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: you mean join chan before cloak applied? yeah i know :/ will fix later. want to robustify things as
a matter of priority
Framedragger: making things more robust, one shitty kiddo-python-line at
a time
Framedragger: meanwhile have to do sector research on ICT. some people think it's
a thing.
Framedragger: i am not sure if i should spend time chasing encoding rabbit holes, or start on rewriting things. the logging part is otherwise reliable, after all. but i guess znc can be kept as
a source of redundancy, and another logger *which knows wtf utf-8 is* does the primary logging.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-20: [07:55:50] <trinque> scriba I'm willing to bet is some other guy's python this kid bolted
a thing to
framedr_stillghe: if i can do the latter then the problem is sorted. except for, you know, still having
a viewer without search.
trinque: scriba I'm willing to bet is some other guy's python this kid bolted
a thing to
trinque: shame on the next person who implements any of this without consulting me first, given I handed you lot
a full implementation of the logging part, and that I can't remember the last time I had to *touch* deedbot.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes (if you think about it, the first block breaks with the software-as-protocol because eg it doesn't reference
a prior block. rather than bake
a test into code forever, more reasonable to just make it by hand.)
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-18: [18:22:30] <asciilifeform> phf (and any other interested folk) if you have
a bit of spare change, buy yourself
a 'pcengines api2', either 2 or 4gb model, it's this comp that comes with schematics. then we can play.
mircea_popescu: eh! i guess now Framedragger gets to make scriba read btcbase for
a little bit...
shinohai: Yeah I recall
a thread on this.
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Error: "b" is not
a valid command.
ben_vulpes: now that you mention it, 'log in' entails
a link in yr email.
ben_vulpes: today, i am electing to not implement
a logout button.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-19: [19:58:22] <asciilifeform> 'If the miners had half
a clue they'd have told Idiot Co-op exactly where to stuff it, and here's the beauty of it: with the arrival of ASICs and their significant capital cost, the odds that the sort of feelgood ninnies currently involved in mining will still be around are nil. ' << if only this had been !
shinohai: I think the whole place is inhabited now by human shannonizers that make mindless posts for 50 cents in satoshi
a day.
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> You're not missing much. << At one point
a person would have missed many lolz by skipping out