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asciilifeform: thing is a respectable micro comp on its own
Framedragger: mmm. i2c interface, etc. yeah. this is a very neat useful thing.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: the mega-feature was the all-in-one micro (just needs current source, a few milliamp) and unspeakable cheapness
mircea_popescu: ballas' celebrated "so you feel strongly about something, strong enough to not do anything" is just as much a statement. there's no lack of observation, it's just that piggy likes his truffle.
mircea_popescu: it's very much a destructive psychiatric condition ; harmful for self, harmful for others. smoke and don't do this, rather than don't smoke and do it.
mircea_popescu: very much a sin ; now go forth and sin no more.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: mircea_popescu has a point, it is a sin
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: the sad part is that by "battling out" ideas in this wordspace, one gets a bit of serotonin rush, to feel *as if* they have actually done something material. i know i get this, at least. evolutionary side-effect, this whole "curiosity -> completion" gap used to be much larger, not it short-circuits easily. it sucks, need to make conscious effort to resist sinking into nihilistic bliss, i think. </rant>
Framedragger: asciilifeform: silently and immediately because folks will notice if not, and you'll become a point of interst?
asciilifeform: (and when it stops being quiet, silently and immediately move, with a pre-agreed scheme)
asciilifeform: i'll share a tidbit - the place to be is the vast expanse of locally-quiet spectrum.
Framedragger: may be a tad bit too nihilistic, sure
Framedragger: myeah, i know. but i also think it's only a matter of degree of effort: if i'm not important enough in their eyes, i'll be fine. if on the other hand i am, then they'll find a way to link me to station and will pay a visit. a.k.a. binary "are you important?" security model.
Framedragger: i'd risk getting a visit from the spooks here, honestly been interested in viability of low bitrate (plain-encrypted, in my mind) radio exchange for a whole.
asciilifeform: (at one time al schwartz and i modelled a scheme with ordinary champaigne bottles floating in ocean. it can work)
mircea_popescu: you say useless all the time for absolutely no reason ; and had a year's + worth of warning. too late to appeal this.
PeterL: mircea_popescu at one point I demonstrated a script to do that, asciilifeform scoffed at it as useless
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: stego is easily a 100x drop in channel capacity.
mircea_popescu: as a sort of steganography. who the hell is going to prove that radio chatter is "not really what it seems"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pass me a turing test and wake me up
mircea_popescu: markov chains can be used for the purpose of symmetrically "encrypting" ; make every byte a different word, it will be "plaintext"
mircea_popescu: ie, if you have 10k 10w stations rather than 100kw one, you will, if sanely handling errors, get a better channel from cluj to melbourne.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: and those will of course not have much bandwidth capacity. but i maintain that to usefully PoC the thing, you don't need much at all. jeebus, having a radio-based key server would be amazing already
mircea_popescu: yes, but lottery works for you when you got a lot of them.
asciilifeform actually listens to shortwave, it is a very mixed bag
asciilifeform: Framedragger: we had a long thread
Framedragger: (consider a true radio relay, by which i mean a relay which sends, receives, and *passes on* messages received from one end to the other)
Framedragger: you don't need to cover the whole damn globe (ionosphere bounces notwithstanding). it's just a *node*
asciilifeform: what can i say, go and put a 100kW pirate in usa, i'll watch
mircea_popescu: power the thing off battery, dump a bunch around people's houses.
Framedragger: i mean personally, to be able to exchange pgp-signed sha512 hashes would make me super happy already - maybe premature ejaculation, yes, but it'd be a *useful facility*.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger sure ; even noncompliant channels may have their uses. but still, in general you want to aim for a 30 kbps minimum.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ~nobody gives a shit about "there in usa". move.
mircea_popescu: still, a 10kbps link dun help anyone much does it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform depends how much it costs. in any case, there's a relationship between required-density and square-of-radius.
asciilifeform: a megawatt shortwave station is a castle.
Framedragger: that's the thing, i wonder if a few points around the globe wouldn't be enough, in principle!
Framedragger: i mean ideally, it'd be a p2p radio station network. antenna + dongle + stuff can be real cheap.
mircea_popescu: in principle we could have a tmsr radio station. even makes for excellent call sign, TMSR.
Framedragger: btw regarding "there is no sane NIC out there" problem and appreciating the fact that designing a whole proper NIC may not be an efficient effort ("ip stack should be eventually abandoned", lots of work, economies of scale at work in semiconductor production, whatnot), i wonder why asciilifeform hasn't considered investing time not in seeking a sane nic, but rather designing / using a sane transport protocol via *radio* (i don't mean shi
Framedragger: would be great to have a nosuchlabs observatory lab, with results exposed over sql or w/e, as discussed
mircea_popescu: the deep point here being that this is a fundamental property of usgian "ghidusii" : the long tail of straggling losers.
Framedragger: yeah for a sec i thought this was new. but totally should be done
mircea_popescu: by now it's a 5 year old thing, if they were gonna do something about it they've had done by now. ☟︎
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: absolutely - will do! though, those 22mil boxes have ssh running on them; there's prob a semi-quick way to get a broader "is it generally online" list, too. but, gotta start somewhere
mircea_popescu: one of those "not going to find anything" things that experience shows would make a fine first article on your putative blog.
mircea_popescu: you have a reasonably fresh list of respondent boxes, feed them 0x32 at offset 0x47f then poll in 5 and 500 seconds see if they're up. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: incidentally Framedragger , how about a survey of response to intel's magic byte ?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, phf: i'm giving up on variable length binary-types for now. my personal pons asinorum for this library is the task of defining either a type or a class whose value could be either u8, u16, u32 or u64, plus the headaches of entirely arbitrary-length scripts.
BingoBoingo: lol GNOME GuPNP is a thing
asciilifeform: 'It is Intel’s belief that this is an implementation issue isolated to a specific manufacturer, not a design problem with the Intel 82574L Gigabit Ethernet controller. Intel has not observed this issue with any implementations which follow Intel’s published design guidelines. Intel recommends contacting your motherboard manufacturer ...'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-22#1546731 << that's a realtek, you can spot the crab logo with naked eye. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ask a street schmuck and he will say 'there are hundreds'
asciilifeform: silicon labs is a ~fabless~ american co.
mircea_popescu: still. you can buy 10/100 nics for 50 cents a pop.
asciilifeform: apparently there is a 4th co
asciilifeform: April 12, 2010 'PALO ALTO, Calif. -- HP today announced it has completed its acquisition of 3Com Corporation at a price of $7.90 per share in cash or an enterprise value of approximately $2.7 billion.'
asciilifeform: there are 3 makers of gbE nics you can buy as cards (vs mobo southbridge integrated, or SOC a la pogo)
mircea_popescu: yeah. and i meant, "probably a realtek clone made in south korea".
asciilifeform: they're a 'whitelabel'
mircea_popescu: there's also a rosewill
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's a number of them
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform apparently most usb dongles use something called asix for a chipset
asciilifeform: killed does not appear to feature on a standalone board either
mircea_popescu: a minute.
asciilifeform: does anyone know of a remaining maker of nic chipsets other than intel, broadcom, and realtek ?
asciilifeform: if chair wants to be spoken for, it has to find a sitter and make him happy.
mircea_popescu: in short, to codify years of extand practice, the "how to participate in the affairs" actually has a lot of bite. one who isn't a citizen has no rights. his complaints have no standing, whatever their content ; and no redress is available.
mircea_popescu: de-titling of the kulaks, as it were. nobody may hold title to any property, nor be entitled to equitable redress of any claim, unless they are a person, as this is defined.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, a comprehensive counter-imperial offensive will include measures meaningful to it, in its own terms.
asciilifeform: vaguely on subject - it is commonly supposed by n00bz that 'launch codes'-style absolute-yet-titleless property holding is a new, bitcoiny thing. but it is nothing of the kind, pirates did it.
asciilifeform: and sure, 'army and navy' is not a complete picture, it is possible to disagree a la hassan i sabbah, or mircea_popescu .
mircea_popescu: anyway. the concept of "nothing to allcomers" logically extends to property on one hand ; the notion of holding property outside of a proper signature is utterly nonsensical on the other hand. however you look at things, a reversal of "progressive" innovation in legal matters is unavoidable.
mircea_popescu: eg "A note, payable to a feme covert, for a debt due to her while sole, is legally payable to the husband, and the property vests absolutely in him, and after his death, goes to his executor or administrator, and not to the wife." and other such wonders.
phf: trinque: they don't in both cases there's a cushion
phf: kind of disappointed this isn't a thing either, http://s3.amazonaws.com/cooltools_legacy/archives/duvall.jpg (was custom designed and built by herman miller for SAIL)
asciilifeform: that last one has a world-open postgres...
asciilifeform: though it is up, and there appears to be a microshit box behind it.
asciilifeform: e case, our theory is that we are sending out batteries over to China to be recycled and they are disassembling the battery packs and reshrinkwrapping them and then selling them back to us on eBay. Not sure if that’s the case with all of it but I’m sure that some of that is happening.' ( http://www.notanon.com/electronics/rebuilding-a-toshiba-libretto-50ct-battery-pack/2011/03/18/comment-page-1/ )
asciilifeform: in definitely not newz, 'Counterfeit batteries are a HUGE problem on eBay. I firmly believe that probably over 85% of the Lithium Ion batteries on eBay are counterfeit or of inferior/dangerous quality. Most of them are extremely overrated as well. For instance, a 18650 cell simply cannot hold 4000MaH. It’s not physically possible for on of these cells output that much energy without draining it to an unusable state. Whatever th
asciilifeform: http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/67d913c979ee44a8931481143d5c3d0a/channel-lock-wrench-in-a-pin-matrix-akn840.jpg
mircea_popescu: in general the way this works is : a) you put two inch styrofoam panels on light metal rails with gloryhole ; b) you affix lcd eyeheight, and play porn on it and c) you get women lined up to service behind the wall.
asciilifeform: dunno that a self-respecting cannibal would want to eat'em
mircea_popescu: may be a market for them in detroit/baltimore.
mircea_popescu: if your crazy chechen cousin brought you a goat, you wouldn't want to KEEP it
PeterL: seems like that would be easy, just write a script to give everybody the same amount of money!
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://www.madewithcode.com , linked from google front pg, 'Learn about the women using code to change the world. Their inspiring stories demonstrate just some of the ways code can shape our lives.' 'In 2015 the United Nations came together to make a list of Global Goals for our planet. Now they need us to help spread the word. Begin your coding journey by choosing the issue that matters the most to you and become par
asciilifeform has a very lengthy treatise in the works, but it needs a) trimming b) refinement, took mircea_popescu's 'stop sending gibblets' criticism to heart
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160921/#395 << very canny. all they got is a pile of shit ; bypassing it annuls ~a decade of usg.nsa "work"
asciilifeform: thing in the same way india was/is a thing.
mircea_popescu: "italy" is not a thing. arguably that it ever was.
mircea_popescu: the way things currently stand, being mentioned in qntra increases the italian gdp by a significant ammount, which is unjustified by an mostly absent public interest in the affairs of the shithole.
shinohai: mircea_popescu does story merit a qntra just for the lulz ?
mircea_popescu: needless to say, qntra isn't going to implement italian "supreme court" bullshit ; nor is "italy" a sovereign in any sense.
shinohai: Annnnd ben_vulpes coins a new term for the republic.
thestringpuller: PeterL: that's a asciilifeform question
PeterL: "just relax, spread wider, this won't hurt a bit"
asciilifeform: aaaaand another heathen 'pgp is obsolete, here's a' >> https://github.com/stealth/opmsg
asciilifeform: https://github.com/trevp/double_ratchet/wiki << and a usg gossipd.
asciilifeform: he local community is concerned, the news story was undeniably of public interest. They just argued that, two and half years from the events reported in the story, the right to inform the public could no longer be invoked to justify the permanence online of a story that was damaging their reputation and the image of their restaurant.'