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asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: theoretically a ~very~ small balloon-launched rocket is orbitable.
mircea_popescu: I kinda giggled and said yeah. So after some hard thought planning I thought, "why not" and started to redraw my picture on windows paint, so I got my initial layout ready to post on i'ables, first here is picture of a model rocket I found online perhaps an ideal candidate for my fusilage design. ofcorse mine will have to be different,unique,personalized. " << this is what ben_vulpes makes me read.
mircea_popescu: said what is that a new toilet invention.
mircea_popescu: "I was browseing the web for some cool thing to call my next project I swooped by Mike Davis's web page where there is alot of cool stuff and was checking out his homebuilt jet engine and it reminded me of a drawing I had in my fileing cabinet from years ago when I was still in grade school. I dug a little and whiped it out and asked my girl friend if she want to see something cool, she replied yeah so I showed my drawing,she
mircea_popescu: well technically "bad tan lines" is a third
pete_dushenski: eh gotta live a little
ben_vulpes: sounds like a frivolous waste of money
pete_dushenski: man alive flights to ireland are priiiicey. more than oz even. /me will be waiting for a deal like a good jew. ☟︎
asciilifeform: funnily enough pete_dushenski i traded a bag of rubles for 1 usd as a boy.
asciilifeform: to the extent that answering such a q is even possible in heathendom.
asciilifeform: 'Hanno Böck is a freelance journalist and volunteer developer with Gentoo Linux. He also works for web hosters schokokeks.org, who rely entirely on free software for their service offerings.'
asciilifeform: it missed a line from me.
asciilifeform: the sheer, breathtaking idiocy of synchronous protocols on a plebified channel.
trinque: what's the frame resize hook thinger, so I can redraw a pane when my frame changes?
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Perhaps set up a Climsten bot to ping yourself?
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel could possibly just set up a dinger
mircea_popescu: man who is married to a place he can't defend was already pretty disturbed.
asciilifeform: re: earlier: caveat is that a man being correctly microwaved will, in all likelihood, present the symptoms of 'rather disturbed' in short order
mircea_popescu: imo the ~best advice in that situation is "go fuck many whores". nothing beats it and fits on a page. which is why i always suspected the pua folk of being a lot more reasonable than anyone realises.
asciilifeform: i (and a111 simultaneously) got a burst of what must be 10 minutes' worth of convo
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: u.s. 'export control' law is a real hoot. e.g., read what counts as 'exporting'
ben_vulpes: now *thats* a retarded brick.
mircea_popescu: think about all the advantages : a cubical rocket doesn't need to be steered as much.
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: or "i'm an alien and am trying to get home, so usg would have to admit they are harboring a martian"
asciilifeform: (btw i'd run ~that~ instead of shortwave, if i were a mad king)
BingoBoingo: ^ Rumours of a pumpkin spice shortage are a Debeers style fabrication. Unless the shortage is on the spice side of things.
BingoBoingo hopes jurov had a happy afk https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/a7/3b/ee/a73beefdbfd7eb4dccc9c90b89e692fe.jpg
jurov: thestringpuller: done. not sick, just afk for a bit
mircea_popescu: like last week, lol. eulora db work has a lot of similarities.
asciilifeform: (when's the last time you made a rainbow table.)
asciilifeform: not a ~general~ answer
asciilifeform: this is probably a good time to remind readers that hash algos as we have them today (incl., yes, keccak) are pseudoscientific kit, similar to the block ciphers, rather than items where the strength is of some provable kind
trinque: deedbot back in a moment.
asciilifeform: think about it for a minute.
mircea_popescu: the one important salient point here is that what we would really like for a hash function would be a H so that it is mathematically proven that NO j' exists so that h(s+j) = h(s+j')
mircea_popescu: still, i wouldn't say these differences allow for a strict determination.
mircea_popescu: now this said, a provably collision-resistant h might be found ; and would be amply useful.
mircea_popescu: this is STILL a weaker standard than "gimme s in h(s)" albeit not quite as catastrophically bad as prevbiously thought
asciilifeform: so, for convenience, i'll reprint: 1) at time T, i publish Ksign(H(S)), where S is a lengthy random string; at time T1, when i wish to invoke the continuity i publish H(S+J) ; at time T2: J; at time T3, S.
mircea_popescu: this is a much weaker standard of failure for h than "here's h(s) tell me s"
asciilifeform: aha, because single-message is not a thing in our universe.
mircea_popescu: well yes, because it implements a sort of single-message kludge.
mircea_popescu: in general "collapsed cryptosystem" reduces one to a "either you have time-order and single-message or else you restart from scratch".
mircea_popescu: suppose for safety of this scheme, ? is made so that create-key takes a day.
mircea_popescu: this however is a necessary assumption (seen in t1 t2 etc) and not escapable in the current paradigm.
mircea_popescu: this system presumes there's such a thing as ordering of events.
asciilifeform: i get it, mircea_popescu reeeeeally loves the repudiability thing, but you gotta be careful not to make a cannon that shoots in ALL directions simultaneously. someone has to get privileged knowledge of the true J' or you are cryptodead.
asciilifeform: outside of buttsex room, there is no such thing as a 'one message' that cannot be mitm'd.
mircea_popescu: this is, again, a very epsilon affair.
asciilifeform: ok, can haz algo? i found a string J, which is a public key for an asymmetric cryptosystem, that purports to belong to mircea_popescu, and published after the rsacalypse. what do i do with it.
mircea_popescu: and if it further has a create-key() which seems more dubious, but is it allowable ?
mircea_popescu: so if ? has a encrypt() and decrypt() which seems like a safe proposition
asciilifeform: it is just a string of bits, for the purposes of this gedankenexperiment.
asciilifeform: recall, we don't know anything about the cryptosystem J is a pubkey for.
mircea_popescu: what do you want, like a c implementation ?
mircea_popescu: i publish k, you a) verify it hash-salts to same value and b) encrypt to it
jhvh1: stormy with a chance of packeting
asciilifeform: i did say 'key J for a possibly yet-undiscovered cryptosystem'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for one thing, unpublished key is a simpler variant. create secret key K, salt-and-hash K, publish K. at later point divulge K. verification is one step and passive for you.
asciilifeform: where you demonstrate that you knew Kpriv and a secret S at time T, and at some time T+i you show that 'he who knew S at time T now wishes to use key J for everyday life.'
asciilifeform: at any rate, it is not difficult to generalize this scheme into a wide variety of 'parachutes'
asciilifeform: which is why for such a scheme to work, it would have to be agreed-upon in advance by the participants.
mircea_popescu: hang on a sec im writing up this horrid movie.
asciilifeform: note, J can even be another pgp/rsa key, if you are insuring against merely a 'key costs $100M and takes 5years to break' scenario, rather than catastrophic rsacalypse
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al : see if you can find a simpler variant.
asciilifeform: at time T, i deedbot Ksign(H(S)), where S is a lengthy random string.
asciilifeform: H is a hashing function.
asciilifeform: anyway here is a simple, 'low-tech' lamport-style scheme. let K be my current pgp key; J be a future, continuity-of-life key in some yet-undiscovered system ;
asciilifeform: would also have a secondary 'fleet in being' effect
asciilifeform: (with which to sign a new conventional pubkey if such a thing were to come.)
asciilifeform: while we're on the subject, there may be merit in deedbotting a lamport-style one-shot public key for the event of an 'asteroid' (serious number-theoretic breakthrough, or the like)
asciilifeform: subjectivity is a bitch like that. e.g. to 5yo being 'grounded' for month is rather like the idea of year in jail for a 50yo
mircea_popescu: aite give it a half hour or such
asciilifeform: keyholder has moar years of life left to invest in building up reputation of a replacement key ?
asciilifeform: (and all else equal, it is better for a key to 'die' earlier in life than later.)
asciilifeform: there is not, and imho cannot be, a pleasant endgame for dude who gets his wot key publicly popped.
trinque: background cron that flips a "sent_to_phuctor" bit
mircea_popescu: but yeah, mutual masturbation with phuctor not a bad idea, if it can be done somehow so it doesn't make the ensemble more friable.
trinque: the thing's going through a major cleaving process, nearly done
mircea_popescu: PeterL word. you can also induce them through masturbation ; and the process can result in a slight increase in amniotic fluid.
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-27#1548932 << braxton hicks are a pre-labor contractions that are painful and annoying to the woman, can start up to a couple months before actual labor, sort of an on-again, off-again random contraction at various intervals (contrast with actual contractions which come at a steady rate and build in intensity) ☝︎
asciilifeform: ftr, my own digs led me to the hypothesis that germany had, contrary to american official legend, a considerably cheaper method of refining U than the idiot calutron, as early as '43
asciilifeform: since it was not obvious, i will point out, 'nazi bell' is a ~proverbial~ object, with some basis in factual history, sorta like the cross of jizzus etc.
mircea_popescu: so it wouldn't stretch the bounds of the plausible if the nazis had an early, low efficiency, fusor-like thing ; which would have been no larger than a doberman ; and so isn't related to either some random polish dude's fantasies of "my village is special - look, that mountainside, is where thor sat down!" or whatever argentina landing bills.
mircea_popescu: through a meter thick shield ? how ?
asciilifeform: same reason modern reactor is a pig.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: one dude who eats a beam can magnify, with passage of time and armchair, into 'many liquid corpses' etc.
mircea_popescu: im sure the journalist had a bunch of girlfriends "that died" back when he was 13.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't seem likely the device they might have built would have killed much of anyone ; moreover the story of "fatalties" is how pubescent males always tend to lend a shrowd of cool to their fantasious fabrications.
asciilifeform: plenty of junk gets made in qty==1 and forgotten. but if it's bulky and expensive, and, bonus, makes for picturesque workplace fatalities, it can take on a second life in crackpot archaeology.
mircea_popescu: well sure, but there's a difference between the Vs, which actually did land in london, and in abundance bordering on public nuisance
mircea_popescu: now, if they managed to source a megawatt, which seems dubious, and if they managed to get the usual 10^5 power loss, which seems also dubious, even if we grant they had the concept 30 years early, then it follows that they might have made 100 watt worth of neutron source.
mircea_popescu: well it'd help if you said that. ie, "a clumsy, bulky fusor" not "a clumsy, bulky neutron source"
asciilifeform: neither gives you a directed beam.
asciilifeform: in point of fact there are two (not counting the small kind you can make on your desk right now out of a smoke detector and beryllium sheet) in commercial use
mircea_popescu: look. what source of neutrons do you have in mind other than a linear accelerator ?
asciilifeform: if you have a directed one, you can turn that $B into $2B right now.
mircea_popescu: it's a tube dood not a fucking bell.
mircea_popescu: so which part of the nonsense is part of your accepted reconstruction ? i don't imagine sponeaneous margerinization of plant matter for a 150 to 200 m radius makes it in?
asciilifeform: at any rate, it does not stretch the bounds of the plausible that germany had a clumsy, bulky neutron source.