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phf: picked them up from a retrohardware person i know. pretty sure i burned some respect points for being "the retrokeyboard faggot"
phf: like in that russian joke "i got two"
phf: i wanted to fix the unicode search in the process, but i'll punt on that for one. it kind of works, but not surprisingly doing boyer-moore correctly with unicode is ugly and suboptimal.
phf: PeterL: not until i fix the algorithm, that was on my backlog but got overtaken with all the stability issues
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2016/gossipd-design-document/#comment-119015 << and yes i know mircea_popescu has auto-ping, but linking here for other folks.
phf: i was thinking of just doing a mess of wires, but there was that shop floating around in the logs, that would print a pcb for you and put chips on it
asciilifeform: phf: i bought the pcb.
BingoBoingo: lol, next time I gotta make the "candidates are old" declaration in press will have to wheel that out.
asciilifeform: dunno about you BingoBoingo but i'm lookin' forward to the sovgeriatric era of usa
asciilifeform: i'd like to know.
asciilifeform: eh i can see a, e.g., michele obama, switcheroo, but not the old fart.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, what's the current list of public trb nodes ? i have -connect=108.31.170.49 54.187.227.228 46.166.165.30 91.218.246.31 172.86.178.46 50.168.67.12 of which a coupla be answering.
mircea_popescu: i paranthesized mostly for the ... robomorphical interest. SEX! for machines! increases their lifespan, just like for people, but differently.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: Um. I met a hobbyist once who spent 10 grand on a plane. Point for Traffic Delivery Bypasser is to be resusable not "disposable".
thestringpuller: You'll see a few muthafuckers with those things on the airfield. I dunno how "reliable" they are tho. Then again, I'm not enough of a pilot to even call myself a hobbyist.
thestringpuller: i guess it's the same physics involved.
PeterL: I thought "drone" was just a less-TLA-y version of "UAV"?
thestringpuller: Perhaps I should just use UAV for now on
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: this is actually what I just said
Framedragger: huh very neat, good for him says i
thestringpuller: i kno. but i've talked with a hobbyist turned "professional" and does discreet delivery with drones in this manner. they've gotten highly advanced.
PeterL: I guess if it is cheap enough/target is high value that could be useful
PeterL: (I probably calculated that in HS physics class, but I am too lazy now)
asciilifeform: (for what, i have nfi.)
mircea_popescu: i dunno why not.
asciilifeform: i know of no example with anything but plastic props, incidentally.
mircea_popescu: they are not in my wot ; i will ignore them happily.
asciilifeform: ... before we lose this thread, i will point out that the correct projectile weapon for a toy flyer is 'gyrojet' rocket.
mircea_popescu: shinohai i don't think anyone seriously contemplates importing the aferations of random soi dissant sovereigns.
asciilifeform: some years ago i had a very lengthy exchange with al schwartz about an ocean bottle relay
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if i wanted it to stay put i'd simply add a baloon.
Framedragger: i think you may be disappoint at the amount of stationkeeping time you can do on quadcopter or w/e, even with a large solar cell which then surely will render a larger radar profile; but maybe i'm mistaken - interesting
Framedragger: i'd look at HAB
asciilifeform: i have wondered what the state-of-the-art in ~stationkeeping~ re quadcopter presently is.
Framedragger: cool stuff. same with films, vinyls etc as i understand it
mircea_popescu: another thing i'd like to see prototyped is quadcopter mediated data exchange. have the guy plug out a usb stick from one back panel, fly it over, plug it into another back panel.
asciilifeform: which is a quite useful thing, both for 'i can hear my keyboard across the street, wtf', other experiments, but also for picking up eventually mircea_popescu's shortwave.
asciilifeform: 'rtl-sdr' (i have a couple here) are cheapo programmable wideband ~receivers~
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 14:23 Framedragger: i think rtl-sdr dongles may be enough, no?
Framedragger: yawell, don't forget, routing is not a trivial problem. this is only the very beginning, i think. an occasion nonetheless though, surely!
mircea_popescu: possibly, i dunno
Framedragger: i think rtl-sdr dongles may be enough, no? ☟︎
Framedragger: nono i figured re actual article
mircea_popescu: i was just being facetious! no such article is being prepared! sorry to disappoint.
mircea_popescu: now you know what "baby i'm spent but if you wanna come over we can watch porn and do the butterfly" means.
asciilifeform: because i confess, i refreshed it a buncha times
asciilifeform: and relatedly, i have a proposed cut of the gordian knot, but now i gotta write it up
mircea_popescu: well, it's the 2nd most read article this month, which i've never seen before for a recent piece.
asciilifeform: i dun get it
mircea_popescu: and in other irrelevant news, that article's the weirdest thing i ever saw. apparently it attracted huge interest - but is linked virtually nowhere.
mircea_popescu: trinque i know i brought this on myself, but an unsubscribe will be useful so i don't get everything on gossipd spec twice lol
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [13:16:34] <trinque> I recommend each bot implements botname: help
asciilifeform: heh i still recall when folks believed that their unixen were 'multi user' os etc. aha.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i know. but this is the nominalist axion. you're stuck with some level of simon says
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how do i locally configure my terminal to emit mircea_popescu's command-of-the-day ?
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 10:00 mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#76 << i recall explaining then, but i guess it didn't stick : the fact that transactions are malleable means no such thing as a "high only" pool may exist - others can malleate your "high only" txn and mine them as lows. meanwhile network effects prevent you building a mining farm that mines high-s txn : unless you control a significant portion of the hash, you will just mine orphans.
trinque: I haven't yet, but can.
trinque: I recommend each bot implements botname: help
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [03:35:52] <BingoBoingo> To celebrate these 9/12 phuctorings https://i.sli.mg/0FzhV3.png A SEASON!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1539822 << i think the boeckfest was over on friday night ☝︎
Framedragger: i see, i see; clear separation - makes sense
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: gotcha. i felt shy because all these other smart people don't comment on the article, damn their restraint
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: so i'll write a short comment
mircea_popescu: yes, but now if i want to say "i suppose if one wants channels he can just prefix his lines with #trilema or whatever, but this is deliberately left to implementation" i don't have where to.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: because i thought the question may have been truly stupid, and turns out it sorta was!
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ah, shit. for some reason the first time i've read the message storage format (in the general sense), i.e. "time, X, Y, text", i read it as from X directed towards Y. my shitty fault
jurov: what's interesting, i don't see anything possibly related here: https://github.com/MariaDB/server/commits/10.1
shinohai: Maybe I should switch to an ethereum-based database >.>
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1539784 << the trilema effect. Even with caching my dinky blog box gets jammed sometimes. I always archive.is the latest post before it hits the bot though ☝︎
Framedragger: (for anyone curious, three relevant PDFs regarding pubsub-based p2p in http://fd.mkj.lt/stuff/p2p-pubsub/ - yes, PDFs, i know)
Framedragger: topic-based publish/subscribe has been sorta well researched, but i guess this problem is on another 'layer': gossipd document would leave this for 'implementation'. even though it may not be trivial at all, to make decisions regarding such matters, choose best spec, or design it from ground zero. but of course makes sense to discuss the foundations first
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160912/#76 << i recall explaining then, but i guess it didn't stick : the fact that transactions are malleable means no such thing as a "high only" pool may exist - others can malleate your "high only" txn and mine them as lows. meanwhile network effects prevent you building a mining farm that mines high-s txn : unless you control a significant portion of the hash, you will just mine orphans. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: memorialized examples include you bitching about phuctor's hosting for spurious reasons, which resulted in enemy thanking us for a year of downtime. i had hoped you learned lesson, but ferrocranium is severe with you.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [03:35:52] <BingoBoingo> To celebrate these 9/12 phuctorings https://i.sli.mg/0FzhV3.png A SEASON!
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [03:11:59] <BingoBoingo> https://i.imgur.com/fl1n0ib.jpg
Framedragger: re. scriba, "Call function : [TBD]", i was told http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-29#1531244 so i use !#, too? i can change this ☝︎
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-12: [03:10:19] <pete_dushenski> speaking of making use of blogs, i've taken the liberty of compiling the various #trilema bots, their calls, and their functions onto a single page >> bots.contravex.com
ben_vulpes: one of the other things i had scribbled down is that asciilifeform wants a crypto-hard wall against "teh ddos", and mircea_popescu appears satisfied that uninformed idiots who can't find keys are enough of a pill against the ddos. i don't see how this is an improvement on the ip address, which the average netizen is entirely uncognizant of.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i have no idea how challenge/response is stateless
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: yeah i have nfi how mircea_popescu ended up emitting a high-S. and he never, iirc, said. probably was test.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i recall. and without the nukeforkpocalypse, i thought that using mod6's '-lows' flag was sop...
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i did call for nuke war over the high-S idiocy...
a111: 723 results for "i don't know", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=i%20don't%20know
phf: !#s i don't know
a111: Logged on 2016-09-12 03:54 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-11#1539662 << you know i had a whole thing typed out but i think the core is that mircea_popescu is talking connections and asciilifeform is talking blobs
a111: Logged on 2016-09-11 18:52 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i am quite curious re how you would summarize the point of contention in subj thread.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-11#1539662 << you know i had a whole thing typed out but i think the core is that mircea_popescu is talking connections and asciilifeform is talking blobs ☝︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1539721 << i use phf's search reflexively at this point ☝︎
BingoBoingo: To celebrate these 9/12 phuctorings https://i.sli.mg/0FzhV3.png A SEASON!
pete_dushenski: bash.contravex.com is also in beta. shinohai and i will be working on it going forward :)
BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/RLdcYxW.png
BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/fl1n0ib.jpg
pete_dushenski: speaking of making use of blogs, i've taken the liberty of compiling the various #trilema bots, their calls, and their functions onto a single page >> bots.contravex.com
pete_dushenski: to uber's credit, i wrote them an email explaining the situation and they refunded me the fare with almost no hassle to speak of.
phf: i'm pretty sure cmucl's networking/threading interaction is busted. it shouldn't be, for all practical purposes it's an erlang model (green threads, and async io on vm level), but in practice the code is dodgy..
phf: cheers, i just refreshed the stack so should be less random bot timeouts
phf: asciilifeform: ah cool, i think you might've linked that page before
mircea_popescu: but anyway, i suppose this is neither here nor there.
asciilifeform: i suspect this is the basic fear that motivates whiteners
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what i mean is, iirc rivest just puts key in last packet. there's no reason to have a "last" packet ; why not "one of"