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asciilifeform: i'd like to find out what gives re snsabot in #e
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/eulora/2019-08-11#1000000 << bot does work. but observe, this is index 1000000 ! i.e. 1st line it ever saw ?!!
mp_en_viaje: lobbes, yeah you know, can this not be rescued ? i dunno why exactly you're so down on it, but wtf, pretty static pages logotron ftw.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i do.
asciilifeform: lobbes, mp_en_viaje : did feedbot actually emit irc lines in #e ? cuz i'm not seeing either http://logs.minigame.biz/2019-08-03.log.html#t14:41:25 or http://logs.minigame.biz/2019-08-06.log.html#t16:55:36 or http://logs.minigame.biz/2019-08-07.log.html#t19:00:04 in mine ?
lobbes: I always did too, buuut pip-isms :/
mp_en_viaje: and incidentally i must say, lobbes 's old logger looks very pretty and moves fast. i always liked it.
asciilifeform: lobbes: hm is snsabot actually sitting in #e ? i aint tuned in myself, so nfi, maybe glitch ?!
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc it was a redditism (dunno whether had own reddit pit) , meme, 'lay down and rot' (i.e. what to do when yer goose is cooked but not yet gathered courage to eat pistol)
diana_coman: huh, I actually remember the azn guy + story but can't extract atm direct link, huh
diana_coman: ah, ah; if you want it there, I can add it (tomorrow though), sure; meant to ask: why no author field in your manifest?
asciilifeform: i'd prefer to roll up all possible direct growths of the logotron into that tree
lobbes: I figure I'm still going to publish my znc-eater.py anyways. Make a blog post out of it as a nice example of "why python sucks and bash ftw" if anything
lobbes: diana_coman: I will once I get some of these other items out
lobbes: ty lol. And yes, I intend to. I think trinque has been on record saying the same
mp_en_viaje: "oh, i just use it to relax, man". yeah, careful you don't manage to relax right off the deck.
lobbes: mp_en_viaje: you actually improved my archive process with just such a bash one-liner. I still use it to this day to get around the 'cloudflare' crapola. But you know, 10 years spent in a pot-induced fog tends to make one miss the obvious. I'm working with a new brain these days
diana_coman: fwiw, I diffed the 2 and looked, couldn't find further issues; the nick is now indeed first word of payload when * is nick (on action); + the one case with messed up lines because of Day changed vs. Log opened is corrected too.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 16:09:56 lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927380 << I'm learning this lesson painfully
spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1927010 <-- one thing that most likely changed: they bought cars. traffic is a bitch even in that little town, even though it's entirely walkable in a few hours. granted, last time I was in MM was in 2007 and there weren't that many of them, but have only passed through viseu back then
diana_coman: meanwhile I actually found 1 instance I missed so I'll tweak a bit the awk (there's a "Log opened" instead of "day changed" and the timing/date there is also different so needs fixed)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 12:55:26 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-09#1926731 << not quite. if snsabot were a cl proggy, i would not need to restart it and lose connection to do knob turn.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i gotta leave console for ~1h, will eat you reground log as soon as get back / is posted.
asciilifeform: i kinda wonder why his raw log aint a sexpr
spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927308 <-- nah, ty. I'll consider this the beginning of history for #spyked and feed l0gz to my logotron when I'll stand up
asciilifeform: i do not know how he conceived of this format, but i wrote 'eater' to eat it as-given
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 15:24:38 mp_en_viaje: i am personally very fond of the bash one liner. imo it is sheer bash-illiteracy that makes all sorts of crapolade like python even appear "useful"
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927380 << I'm learning this lesson painfully
lobbes: If not I'll turn my focus to something else
lobbes: incidentally, asciilifeform, I was pretty close to completion (unicode problem solved, and index implemented). Was going to polish it off this evening and genesis but... is it even needed anymore?
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-08-11#1927428 << sheesh, I spent a total of 10 hours I'd say on that znc-eater.py and diana_coman solves problem with one line of bash... wd indeed ☝︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: plox to match phf's format, i'ma then snip out the imported tape and re-eat
diana_coman: asciilifeform: as I'm still nitpicking the log, was it expecting some space re * and action as this doesn't seem quite ok: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-07-20#999264 ?
asciilifeform: keep in mind, this is ~ancient~ tech, i can connect to e.g. 'emule' net (somehow alive for 20y!!) and put in hash and get e.g. copy of DERIVE.EXE, same one i used in '96
mp_en_viaje: but i expect that'll be permanent.
diana_coman: I suspect so; there's a shortage of building blocks, not as much of what to do with them
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i've been fucking fed up for year+ w/ having to beg people to 'pleez reset yer logger' etc
asciilifeform: and with raw export knob i expect it will be relatively painless to bake 'dumb' mirrors ( Troo mirror imho really oughta have own bot !! )
diana_coman: asciilifeform: barbarous or not, it's the only logger I have logging #ossasepia, you know?
asciilifeform: it's still, i dare say, a quite barbarous logger. ( in coupla wks i expect we'll find out whether in fact asciilifeform cracked the riddle of fleanode socket barf, incidentally ) but imho beats shit out of 'maybe, we have loggers? on warm weather days?'
diana_coman: the 998966 above is lazy-hardcoded, calc based on asciilifeform's first id and the total lines in my log (i.e. so that the ids match perfectly *before* his log)
asciilifeform: (i.e. want run-anywhere-that-gives-shell)
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i suppose for 'olympiad' could attempt 'irc client in bash' via 'telnet' rather than netcat
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: if in fit of pique you write bash logbot, i promise to read
mp_en_viaje: i am personally very fond of the bash one liner. imo it is sheer bash-illiteracy that makes all sorts of crapolade like python even appear "useful"
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i found that stock znc also stores only hour/min. and the historic timestamps being what they are, they are imho of rather questionable use.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: the converter is awk one-liner but my logs were plain irssi (and the annoying bit was re time because hour:min only + day change only); still, if you think it may be of use, I'll post it, sure
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-11#1927339 << i dunno, captive monkeys make as good fucktoys as any martians.
mp_en_viaje: i managed to go through ten years of trilema during which i found myself forced to reference french, italian, german, even canadian songs.
asciilifeform: i.e. ??!!!??
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: actually in asciilifeform's head, archaetypical u.s. song is 'i am walrus'
mp_en_viaje: actually it is kinda funny ~only usian song subjects are either jaysus or else "Ashley. You 're a fuckin' bitch. You left me for a guy named Lance. Ashley. You 're really stupid. Cos I was saving up to take you to France. Yeah, I was gonna take you to France." variants
BingoBoingo: The folks I knew who went pilot did the lessons. The one I talked to more was constantly stressed, because only so many of the folks taking lessons and flying prop planes from Murphysboro, Illinois to Pinckneyville, Illinois and back would get the opportunity for further instuction on flying things that would earn them a bunk and meals.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: fwiw i pictured 'guaranteed instruction!' as, you come to the class and 'guarantee' at least will get to play 'f19' for coupla hr
asciilifeform: ... one time there was a sort of show at the uni, 'rotc' corps brought some old (vietnam?) artillery pieces. i walk up to one , the cranks -- surprisingly -- oiled, start to aim it at uni admin bldg. sargeant : 'they forbid us from permitting audience to touch these! but pleeeez come to the base, you can play with it all you like! and wontcha consider to sign up ???'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i did not show up to where the spam asked, so do not know. but suspect that the whole orchestra is hard up for literate folx:
asciilifeform: i suspect, because ultimately http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2017-11-30#1744918 .
snsabot: Logged on 2017-11-30 18:15:59 a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 18:28 asciilifeform: gymnasts may not be perfect example. when you have a role where the training per se is costly, you're stuck picking. e.g., pilots; i recently read a quite interesting autobio, 'Обречены на подвиг' ('condemned to heroism', roughly) by su flying d00d / instructor / colonel. described how children having any physical imperfection, even tooth cavity, were mercilessly
BingoBoingo: Well, the couple that I know who did the Air ROTC and get to piloting ended up flying fat freight planes.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suspect deeper problem. somehow subj lost appeal in 'civilized' world... as a boy i dun think i met one single boy who did not at least on boy level wish he could become a jet pilot
asciilifeform: i find it interesting that there appear to be 0 popular songs/rhymes about flying in usa, such that would post-date ww2
asciilifeform: 'Вижу я как Эдвард с Бобом / Вдруг пошли встречаться с богом / Вижу ноль семнадцать на борту.' ( 'then i see, that Ed and Bob, went off to meet up with God, on the clock i see 0-17.' )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: f4 , going by period accounts, had the mega-'feature' where had several modes of spin that were 'unrecoverable' , i.e. if(spin) catapult_now !
BingoBoingo as child yet to see kindergarden had a favorite book. Included all sorts of aircraft. The only ones I remember with certainty were the SR-71, A-10, flying radar picket, and the loser F-4 that didn't even have a gun while pretending to be a fighter.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 13:09:14 thimbronion: BingoBoingo: here is a re-encrypted copy of the encrypted message you sent me earlier as evidence I have the private key: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Kkmtg/?raw=true
asciilifeform: i'd like to fill up #a, #p
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 22:19:18 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-10#1927238 << the back/fwd links a la phf ? defo will go in (i'm aiming for 100% feature parity) but some time after the raw-export and similar knobs aimed to make redundant-backup installs easier
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 16:55:24 lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-10#1927241 << my process was indeed downloading the archived zips. I still have the data, though the archiver iron has been disconnected during my physical move to a saner location. This weekend I will get that iron back online and archiving
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 14:47:20 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-10#1927224 << i also don't see the advantage in concentrating. wtf would be the benefit of having trilema and logger down at same time ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 14:38:41 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-10#1927169 << i honestly have nfi what to say. time is beyond my comprehension.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-10#1927248 << i'ma move that clock some time no one is awake. and in general prolly worth to adjust it regularly (monthly?) nao that there's a log on that box.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-10#1927273 << i'ma let lobbes fix so actually eats 100%. lobbes if you get stuck lemme know
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-10#1927238 << the back/fwd links a la phf ? defo will go in (i'm aiming for 100% feature parity) but some time after the raw-export and similar knobs aimed to make redundant-backup installs easier
lobbes: right now, though, I'ma get back to getting that znc-eater.py complete
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-10#1927241 << my process was indeed downloading the archived zips. I still have the data, though the archiver iron has been disconnected during my physical move to a saner location. This weekend I will get that iron back online and archiving
BingoBoingo: I've been on a chili kick recently. Will probably photo blog something along those lines by the end of the month.
mp_en_viaje: o dude, i can almost taste that thing
mp_en_viaje: sic transit, i guess Ima send the hilarity care packages in the hole, cigs wrapped in pantsuits.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 11:27:21 diana_coman: eh, the way I see it is more of an opportunity to look around again and try perhaps some datacenters
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-10#1927224 << i also don't see the advantage in concentrating. wtf would be the benefit of having trilema and logger down at same time ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 10:49:59 diana_coman: funnily enough re driving I had the precise opposite trouble: had to trust a bit more *some*O!!
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-10#1927169 << i honestly have nfi what to say. time is beyond my comprehension.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 10:20:38 diana_coman: to link it to the previous thread, it seems to me quite similar to saying that "instinct" of noob pilot is shit, therefore instinct of *any* pilot, experience be damned, is just as shit; I seriously doubt this.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i suppose the 'max pain' zone is when barfs, but not often enuff to trigger 'obv., let's throw out' heh
asciilifeform: i suspect that this is what gave various folx the phobia of 'make logger'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: atm i'm somewhat curious whether the logotron is even reproducible
diana_coman: eh, the way I see it is more of an opportunity to look around again and try perhaps some datacenters
asciilifeform: lessee what mircea_popescu remembers re the ru people (supposing i didn't dream it)
diana_coman: but I don't really want the logger there too
asciilifeform: i'd rather not spend megabux on heathen hosters, but to put ~all~ in 1 cage is to tempt fate
asciilifeform: i dun recall hearing any serious barf. ( and i think somebody still has a trb noad there )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i've been thinking of getting a box in same ru place mircea_popescu once used
asciilifeform: i'ma add in coming days the 'raw line export' thing. but then ideally to get back in peh
diana_coman: the way I see it, it's simply shortcut obtained through experience; hence my statement above that it's not and cannot be out of nothing just like that; even what seems as "out of nothing" is just...forgot when learnt rather than truly out of nothing
diana_coman: funnily enough re driving I had the precise opposite trouble: had to trust a bit more *some*O!!
diana_coman: but fwiw I think I know what you mean; the "gut instinct" is not a generally-good thing; it's good at what it's good and doesn't translate well to dissimilar environment basically
diana_coman: but because of that, I know precisely what it took - a very lucid learning, let's say; not "intuitive", no
diana_coman: heh, I learnt to cycle when I was...~24 :|
asciilifeform: aa, it's an example i always use with usa folx, they usually go 'aha'
diana_coman: asciilifeform: sadly I never shot guns, no; (shot some bow and arrow but other than that, kills were of a more lower class countryside style rather than lord of the mannor)