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Namworld: No, just visiting family. Caught a flu, didn't feel like going on the computer afterward.
Namworld: ugh, so many requests to cash out BTC-BOND. Anyone wants to get them or should I start liquidating a bit of stuff?
mircea_popescu: "look, we can humiliate the us president too!"
mircea_popescu: basically after the stunningly cold ownage putin delivered in the ny times, everyone wants to get a finger in the honey jar located in obama's recently decerebrated skull.
jurov: omg welcome to age of twatter diplomacy
ozbot: Daily Kos: Twitter CEO Blown Away by Iran President's Account as Rouhani Re-Tweets State Department
mircea_popescu: the comment section for instance... it's like purified 4chan with something to talk about.
mircea_popescu: i personally think most of its potential hasn't really been unlocked yet.
VanCleef: and think its pretty genius
mod6: All times are GMT.
mod6: What timezone is BitBet in?
mircea_popescu: in the faq man.
[\]: How do we know what time it is at bitbet?
[\]: Where's that listed?
[\]: and since you have multiple PT on multiple TZ, there's more room for error
[\]: further, it doesn't give a timezone
[\]: there's a difference between A trade and ALL trades on a given day
[\]: otherwise, the title text should have read ASICMINER will continuously trade >2 BTC on Oct 31, 2013"
[\]: that would constitute "ASICMINER will be higher than 2 BTC on Oct 31, 2013"
[\]: it probably would have been better to structure it was any trade >2 resolves as Yes
[\]: the text is weak
mircea_popescu: but yes, it's a weak bet, i wouldn't risk too much dust on it.
mircea_popescu: what's one to do ?
mircea_popescu: [\\\] asicminer is like... the only OTHER actual company publicly listed.
[\]: since there is no depth
mircea_popescu: it has to be used.
[\]: that bet is totally gameable
[\]: "ASICMINER will be higher than 2 BTC on October 31st 2013. If assbot relays any trade of any AsicMiner passthrough at or under 2 BTC per share at any point during October 31st, 2013, this bet resolves as No. Otherwise, the bet resolves as Yes."
mod6: the calculator thingy is sweet tho
mircea_popescu: i like that best. 4 btc bet on like... 29/100`000 weight.
mod6: then we'll see where that goes.
mod6: i just need it to interact, get a response and display. once that's done. code cleanup + testing on my actual device instead of the emu.
mod6: actually, i already know it works since i tested them while enc/dec with my own key without having to leave the local system.
mod6: next week too (after sunday) i'll be testing to make sure that the RSA enc/dec of the cmds is working as it should.
mod6: i'll take a deeper look this coming week.
mircea_popescu: time to get a shittier job paying nothing at all for a TON of work.
mircea_popescu: now that you got out of a shitty job paying not enough for a lot of work
mircea_popescu: The current maintainer is looking for someone who can help with the maintenance of this package.
ozbot: Debian Package Tracking System -
mod6: i've got all the 1.4.14 src local actually. i was doing some gdb of the sucker recently.
mod6: yah, that'd get interesting.
mircea_popescu: if someone did that i'd certainly want to see what the maintainer does.
mod6: maybe gnupg needs a patch where this is translated to C and DSA/ElGamal are removed
mod6: here's the meat: alpha = hashBitList(pk.k,pk.p,pk.hash,bitListThree(pk.k,u1,u2,e))
mircea_popescu: i don't presume to read crypto implementations as if i understand anything.
mircea_popescu: i mean in the 90s right ? i can see it. but it's 2013. we got powah.
mod6: yeah, its strange that elgamal wasn't stayed away from more since it doesn't conform to ind-cca1/2
mircea_popescu: i'd really like to be enlightened as to what practical consideration recommends the use of elgamal still.
mircea_popescu: afaik the only to satisfy the standard
mircea_popescu: moreover, that ind-cca2 is juicy
mod6: the NSA probably put the kabosh on it lol
mod6: yeah. i think that since elgamal is malleable, using the universal one-way hash to achieve the non-mallebility make cramer-shoup an interesting choice.
[\]: I don't think it was supposed to be
mircea_popescu: my current curiosity in the field is why isn't cramer–shoup more widely usedf. ☟︎
mod6: im not really saying anything about bitcoin wallet or bitcoinj in particular. just that BC seems to be an incomplete implementation when held up next to gnupg
mod6: so that's awesome.
mod6: so think i acutally coded myself around it. but now it should be a problem anymore.
mod6: had massive problems trying to use BC for not just DSA sigs, but using ElGamal subkey with DSA pub keys.
mircea_popescu: i orginally thought elgamal was the correct choice, but seems i was wrong
mod6: [\\\]: ya, it might. i know that bitcoinj does
mircea_popescu: then rsa is probably the correct choice.
mircea_popescu: i think if you have to pick one cypher
mod6: i actually ended up going through my Applied Crypto book and implemented what amounts to doing this: http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1998/12/msg00290.html
mod6: bouncy-castle is this lib that is available for use, which works fine with RSA but when it comes to DH/DSS or DSA/ElGamal no worky.
mod6: it was another strange issue that i ran into a week ago. some of these crypto libs are a bit lacking compared to say what gnupg can do out of the box.
mircea_popescu: (a dead horse the vc noobs are still beating today)
mircea_popescu: sorta like it was with web apps in the 90s
mircea_popescu: i think we're going to see a famine of good crypto products the coming decade.
mod6: in the mean time i've been plowing ahead on the android tool. done well with that. gotten RSA clearsign/enc/dec working. so that felt great.
mod6: thx. took 8 months of wrap up or more. but it was either ditch it, or get in far deeper as there was much more to do coming down the pipe. so to speak.
mircea_popescu: o hey. finally out of that horror job ?
mod6: being free of other obligations for the last ~27 days has been awesome for my side-projects.
mod6: maybe this coming week i'll be able to test out my -assets socket script.
Vexual: leo wheres the fuckin atms?
mircea_popescu: so it went to 5 the other way, eventually.
Vexual: rhink or the surgeon
mod6: i don't see how one can survive such a tramatic surgery
mircea_popescu: i think that guy bit it.
mod6: i just think 'how can life go on after such an operation' but alas, life goes on i suppose.
Vexual: i turned to alcoholism for my priaprism
mod6: i clicked on that cause of 'wtf' and yah, that looks really not good. apparently this is in the pelvis region. im not super clued on this stuff tho.
mircea_popescu: mod6 did you get to the hemipelvectomy ?
VanCleef: bbs, trying to eat dinner here
mod6: Instead, the discharge is often described as "sweetly putrid" or "dishwater pus" because it is much thinner than normal pus.
mod6: damn that looks gnarly
Vexual: yeah well if your coomputer turns into an amstrad, dont eat nothing from your fridge man
VanCleef: should mention that more :P
Vexual: fuck man ive been scemeing since i was born man, i could probably scheme this whole thing, and still walk away, wouldn't be no problem at all
mircea_popescu: that theory didn;'t work out too well either. i just mention everything.
mircea_popescu: VanCleef Aug 23 17:40:44 <Rulother>I need a bot on here that counts how many times you mention scams and scammers mp
VanCleef: lol this is like the 5th time this week i seen you mention kids
mod6: Vexual: i saw that on the weather channel of all things.
mircea_popescu: i talk about a vast variety of topics.
VanCleef: why do you always took about kids n that?
Vexual: except for the cryind and the stupid decisions
Vexual: i wanted to be a man, and i was well on my way
mircea_popescu: get a load of this. children ubnder 14 are now capable of giving consent in argentina.
ozbot: Six-year-old becomes first transgender child in Argentina to change identity - Telegraph
Vexual: you dont look like the sort with airbourne pubes mp
mircea_popescu: mod6 i had a fan do that once. so i took the fan apart.