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asciilifeform: fwiw i never grasped why deedbot permits !!rate out of chan. but possibly trinque & mircea_popescu explained this at some point, i simply could not find in l0gz. ☟︎
asciilifeform: PeterL: if he actually issued the uncommented ratings , then psychiatric q for shinohai . if not -- bugological q for trinque . is all i got.
PeterL: could be something related to "-2 lobbes 2018-06-01 01:06:43 old woman. See also: http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Alobbes+rot+in+heathendom" ?
asciilifeform: ( i am at a loss re why anybody would do this, but whoknows ) ☟︎
PeterL: ^ about WOT display: it wouldn't be a bug if shinohai went through and re-rated everybody in his wot with no comment, look at the time stamps ☟︎
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell trinque possible bug in wot display ( https://archive.is/3Z7ZW , scroll to bottom )
Mocky: phf, good info, thanks. looks like cheapest flight in august is bouncing around $1250 to $1350, haven't seen the $1150 sighting again. If I push it out past labor day looks like $950
phf: same deal with, e.g. moscow. $600-500 roundtrips all year spike to $1,5k in summer
phf: new york flights are the baseline to go by, they tend to be the cheapest, and have direct flights by foreign airlines to places i usually go to, so for example istanbul is $1,2k right now, drops to $900 in august, in early september it's the regular price of $700 or so
phf: this is summer u.s. vacation prices, personally i'm not traveling until end of august, when $1900 flights to anywhere suddenly(!!1) drop to $900
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/07/ballot-measure-to-split-california-blocked-by-california-court/ << Qntra - Ballot Measure To Split California Blocked By California Court
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the locals rarely travel within the city
BingoBoingo: Prado's further to the west
BingoBoingo: Mocky: I am in Pocitos near the datacenter.
asciilifeform: then nfi. plane ticket is one of those things that steadily climbs in cost as the printing press churns.
asciilifeform: admittedly the <1900 gets 'cattle car class'.
asciilifeform: ( and asciilifeform's only complaint was the plane that stood on runway for 20 extra minutes because some orc derp couldn't fit his ~box of cakes~ into overhead bin )
mircea_popescu: possibly they're running an "oh, vacation" scam ?
asciilifeform: copa, through panama as it always goes
asciilifeform got round trip from dc and 5d hotel for <1900 in apr
Mocky: copa's 2700 or more for any time in august, from what I can see
BingoBoingo: You can take Copa and do a layover in Panama City
Mocky: oh that sux, i'd totally do a layover in miami
BingoBoingo: Mocky: Just avoid the American Airlines flight direct from Miami, its frequently delayed or cancelled
mircea_popescu: kinda how i fly. used to have old world all mapped out, "and here';s the schnitzel place we stop for in frankfurt, and here's the,..."
Mocky: i need to find one with 23hrs in cancun and 23 hours in jamaica, lol
Mocky: man, these flights are a hoot. looks like getting below $1900 requires 2 to 3 long layovers. cheapest one i see $1153 9 hours in JFK, 16hrs Bogota
BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform went into several pharmacies in BingoBoingostan, saw ~100% herbal/snakeoil crapolas. possibly they keep the real pharma behind counter. << They carry real stuff, but you have to ask. Barrier is "know the name of what you want"
asciilifeform: ( naturally the leather eventually gives , and frags go in the shooter's face. but until then , you get a coupla shots, can be enuff )
mircea_popescu: what they charge is what genuine article costs.
asciilifeform: periodically, uppity folx who need to bake something that shoots, in a hurry (e.g. filipino rebels ) rediscover the korean trick. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 19:25 BingoBoingo: Grocery shopping here is also a trip, Peanut butter runs about 5 USD for a tiny jar, but... Entrecot, God's own cut of beef runs about 10 USD a kilo
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-18#1836280 << the reason, btw, is that us "peanut" butter is ~90% margerine. ☝︎
asciilifeform: aha, same trick as ferrocement
mircea_popescu: problem with wood is that it's too friable. they basically made metal from parts.
asciilifeform: funnily enuff i associate korea with art of medieval gunnery -- motherland of the infamous 'leather cannon', as deadly to artillerist as to enemy
mircea_popescu: well ok, but shooting only was discovered after that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik korea if ever existed as nation, it was in 1300s. (today there's the usg colony and the open air injun reservation)
mircea_popescu: if this were true, korea'd have won some war at some point in its history.
ben_vulpes: pathological fear of firearms doth not translate to safe firearm use
mircea_popescu: the cult of safety is the enemy of safety. like all other inca products.
Mocky: i left and never went back. i should have know by how nice the place was. too nice.
Mocky: last year doc referred me to specialist for one specific issue. specialist ordered 2 dozen labs, bone density scan, ultrasound, said come back in 2 weeks. came back, said looks all good but want another test. went to lab, blood draw chick whips out 7 vials for blood collection. I said, let me see what labs were ordered, was 4 dozen more!
mircea_popescu: i just bought 1% topical novocaine for the asking.
asciilifeform went into several pharmacies in BingoBoingostan, saw ~100% herbal/snakeoil crapolas. possibly they keep the real pharma behind counter.
mircea_popescu: kinda why we advise the zeks to fucking leave.
Mocky: BingoBoingo, what are pharmacies like there, do you know? like mexico: basically walk in and ask for what you need, or more sticklers for note from doc?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-07-18 19:48 asciilifeform: lobbes, shinohai : it seems unfortunate that text forum does not give equivalent of the duel . the ancients invented dueling precisely for your case, you're ideal candidates.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: trick is to warm it up 1st.
BingoBoingo: lol, not fluid enough to drink. That would likely take days
asciilifeform pictures BingoBoingo eating dulce de leche in the style asciilifeform's father ate it in su army -- puncture with bayonet and drink, drink, in 'trumpeter's pose' , all 500g at a time
BingoBoingo: Half a kilo of dulce de leche, the good stuff runs less than 3 USD for a half kilo
BingoBoingo: Grocery shopping here is also a trip, Peanut butter runs about 5 USD for a tiny jar, but... Entrecot, God's own cut of beef runs about 10 USD a kilo ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Carrasco International Airport is also far less fucked up than the options in Buenos Aires
BingoBoingo: Plenty of Venezolanas working on getting their professional licenses here trained in the intense soviet tradition
BingoBoingo: And this is Latin America so any sort of insurance can always be supplemented with cash and carry
BingoBoingo: The way it works here is three tiers: public (free and shitty), Mutualistas (Pick one of several good options for low waits, runs 4300 pesos a month), Private (reimplementation of US tardation)
BingoBoingo: The way healthcare works here however is vastly improved over the US
BingoBoingo: Tres Cruces is a fun place to go to chat cute girls but... it the only barrio with traffic issues, far from the water, and the place I most frequently run into dyed hair activist sorts (the national bus terminal seems to be irresistable bait for the fifth column)
BingoBoingo: There's still expat focused material tryping to pump up property prices in La Blanqueda, Malvin Norte and other shitholes that are an unpleasant walk from the water.
BingoBoingo: Prado's cool but far from everything, otherwise to get low pichi (bum) density the area from Parque Rodo and playa Ramirez all the way through Carrasco (maybe skip Malvin) is a good place to start.
Mocky: ok, thanks
BingoBoingo: Mocky: https://www.mercadolibre.com.uy/inmuebles/ is where you start. If you are looking to buy, start discussions at half their ask...
BingoBoingo: <Mocky> BingoBoingo, I've just read through your real estate posts, what was your best source of info re: rentals, was it agencies? << The best big picture survey is on "Mercado Libre" From there you ask and poke
asciilifeform: give my regards to the hermit crabs.
mircea_popescu: this is true
asciilifeform: no different from 'what does it mean to work on lathe' . if aluminum -- means one thing, if machining pyrophorics (e.g. plutonium) -- very other.
mircea_popescu: this rapidly escalates into a "what does it mean to program".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: conceivably not all works call for the ffa degree of fascism, where asciilifeform insists on being able to say exactly how many bytes are required after a O(1) look at the inputs, and to say exactly in what order they will be accessed etc
mircea_popescu: i thought on blog tbh.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman neither of those are it, i guess ima embark on a re-read expedition, it's discussed somewhere 2015ish pretty sure
mircea_popescu: but i suspect it's in the vein of "a lot of the utility of sledgehammer comes from there being all these abandoned warehouses to loot" "well... how about you organised things better, then no sledgehammers"
asciilifeform: aha, there is no limit to pipe 'length', it specifies a flow, rather than a datum.
mircea_popescu: in fact, a lot of the utility of pipe (and with it, a lot of the utility of unix altogether) comes from it being, fundamentally, a loosely specified scripting lang.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it';s a recurring problem though, recall the "url length hacks" endemic throughout web age ?
mircea_popescu: i've been thinking a lot about this since discussions re how mining bot should be configured in eulora.
mircea_popescu: i suspect a (large) part of the problem is the temptation to stuff ad-hoc scripting langs in the cmd line ;
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch4_ffacalc#L55 << copies the unix turd into the fixed space, if fits, if not, above.
asciilifeform: observe http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch4_ffacalc#L97 mechanism, i fix a max length of param apriori, and routine will explicitly and pompously end the world if luser insists on trying to stuff it further.
mircea_popescu: i meant "long" in the cmdline sense.
asciilifeform: ( so long as the thing gets enuff stack segment on warmup , if it does not, bombs immediately )
mircea_popescu: well yeah but then you must not permit long strings.
asciilifeform: i banned it in my proggy. because i don't like what it leads to.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this more or less exactly describes gnat's implementation of 'secondary stack' (somewhat misnomer)
mircea_popescu: ok, let me rephrase : if program includes "long strings" then compiler turns stack into heap.
asciilifeform: in actual practice turns out , pretty terrible thing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that's what a heap ~is~, a place which lets you pretend to be able to store sequences of objects of unknown-apriori lengths.
mircea_popescu: i dunno that this is equal to using a heap
asciilifeform: Mocky: it is of course possible to do what mircea_popescu describes, the gnat folx did it by making use of heap. however i banned the heap. because i wish to be able to reason apriori re memory usage.
mircea_popescu: Mocky before what ? before the machine exists ?
mircea_popescu: yes, but the problem is that they're trying to help idiots in spite of themselves. which...
asciilifeform: https://docs.adacore.com/gnat_ugx-docs/html/gnat_ugx/gnat_ugx/the_stacks.html#the-secondary-stack << the horse's mouth, re details.
mircea_popescu: if you don't like that behaviour, don't use that thing which necessitates it.
mircea_popescu: no, because machine memory is alwayus the limit. all compiler has to do is simply say the (correct) "sorry, i can;t help you here", and allocate all available memory for stack.
mircea_popescu: if program includes this sort of thing, define stack as max mem.
mircea_popescu: no, i understand that part. what i don't understand is why is it a problem.
asciilifeform: draw this on paper, it will make sense.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why place other than stack ?
mircea_popescu: for the logs : 1st byte is, byte length of 2nd segment. 2nd segment is, byte length of 3rd segment. 3rd segment is payload. so "hola" is 14hola and 0xFF FF FF encodes for a 2.00352993e+19728 byte long string.