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mircea_popescu: so your evil plan to hexedit an exe compile actually worked ?
Namworld: I see you re-added my key. Thank you.
mircea_popescu: best part is the "Sam is the boldface" bit lol
ozbot: A Few Thoughts on Cryptographic Engineering: RSA warns developers not to use RSA products
Namworld: Those things are plaintext
Namworld: It worked before when MPEx moved to MPEx.co
Namworld: To hell with this
mircea_popescu: yeah i guess so. maybe one of the bloggers recounts it sometime.
qxzn: aw, that's a shame, it was such a good story
mircea_popescu: qxzn probably not past a number of scammer threads on the forum.
qxzn: is there a decent writeup somewhere of that Ripple "demonstration" TradeFortress made?
asciilifeform: i second the rec
jurov: oh this is the begining: http://tofspot.blogspot.sk/2013/08/the-great-ptolemaic-smackdown.html
ozbot: The TOF Spot: 9. The Great Ptolemaic Smackdown: From Plausible to Proven
jurov: http://tofspot.blogspot.sk/2013/10/9-great-ptolemaic-smackdown-from.html i just lost there myself for cople hours
Namworld: That works too, thank you
mircea_popescu: Namworld http://trilema.com/2013/mpex-status-report/ read that thing
Namworld: What server is the key on?
mircea_popescu: alright, that may work then
ozbot: 50. Pando the Trembling Giant | Most Odd - Facts of Interest
Namworld: But an hex editor usually works fine for changing the url or key to use
Namworld: No idea, can't remember who it was who made the port.
Namworld: I have to use an hex editor to change key I believe
Namworld: I use the .exe port of pympex
kakobrekla: did ya load the new key?
kakobrekla: why is it a good thing?
mircea_popescu: why's it a bad thing anyway ?
kakobrekla: im more skeptical for bb sine theres all these odds in the air that you wont get your money back
kakobrekla: i need to find a way to avoid this happening for b4x, cause i know it is
mircea_popescu: lol the erotic capacitor theory.
jborkl: capacitors can't be damaged by having current applied "before they've discharged their load"
jborkl: so, the entire hosting is being blamed on Corsair
asciilifeform: bridge (accidental short, glob of solder where it doesn't belong) would vaporize in this case
jborkl: I just saw that
jborkl: EDIT: I should add that KnC are using Corsair V850s themselves, and haven't had an issue with any of them. That said apparently they almost supplied their entire hosting with the HX, but due to the HX being out of stock for the volume required, they bought the V850. Which in hindsight is a wonderful thing.
asciilifeform: alternative: solder bridge (short) under the smt ceramic cap.
mircea_popescu: t pop that way
mircea_popescu: and moreover it seems the majority of people i showed the pics to say those aren't electrolytic but ceramic
jborkl: The heavy scorch marks some of the boards are showing indicates more than a cap also
mircea_popescu: jborkl originally it looked like caps just popped but the history since then does nto bear it out
jborkl: it makes sense- the KNC theory is just flat out wrong
jborkl: that is a good theory mp
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla the current theory i'm crediting is that the boards have bad metal masks in a spot, and it slowly melts the insulation
kakobrekla: that seems to me like something that happens while under load for some time
jborkl: A better guess- they are drawing too much off the ps- it cuts off to protect itself and the caps pop
jborkl: I know, that is a bad diagnosis- it is just wrong
mircea_popescu: if all the boards burn its not the capacitors, it's not the power, it's the board.
jborkl: Basically there is an issue with excessive current being applied, after the PU cuts out and the device is turned back on, causing the cap to pop.
mircea_popescu: dude it's not the power get out.
jborkl: It appears that a reasonable solution has been reached in that all the boards this has occurred to seem to have been used alongside the exact same PSU; The Corsair HX850.+
jborkl: KNC says all the caps blowing is due to the corsair ps
jborkl: With respect to the capacitors, an investigation has been undertaken with Anotherhost.se, as they have suffered the issue with all their boards.
mircea_popescu: on the basis of this we could say "the community" is sometime between 12k and 7k BC
mircea_popescu: basically the very primitive understanding of freedom has serious trouble coming to terms with the ancient procedure of labour division
ThickAsThieves: there are still plenty other issues to address
samson_: I think it would be an evolution on current uses of blockchains without going down the whole coloured coins route
samson_: This is true, I'm not saying it's simple
ThickAsThieves: me for example, you think i would manage a ledger system for free?
ThickAsThieves: in time, in cost, etc
ThickAsThieves: realize that in such a system you'd end up with more friction
ThickAsThieves: just because you can "withdraw" your share, doesnt mean it will have usefulness in the same ways
ThickAsThieves: not the exchange
ThickAsThieves: you rely on the issuer
samson_: It would end reliance on 'the exchange' so when it closes down they could be traded elsewhere.
ThickAsThieves: at least no one had to waste any GPU power
ThickAsThieves: then poof the network disowns it
ThickAsThieves: anxious to hold their thread of the bag
ThickAsThieves: hordes of ingoramuses asking what is a labcoin and how do i get them?
Jere_Jones: I admit that I, at one time or another, owned shares of both.
ThickAsThieves: then bagholders left to be determined
ThickAsThieves: lots of people focusing attention on them like a bitcoingem
ThickAsThieves: they behaved much the same...
Jere_Jones: Were those really things?
ThickAsThieves: you'd prefer the stock market to more resemble the altcoin markert?
samson_: I guess my take on it is the shares could do with decentralisation, not so much the exchanges.
samson_: If anyone can create a security then I don't see the big deal. The approval process would happen automatically if people started trading them for Bitcoin. Take these new alt currencies which appear to be created daily - they're not all traded on exchanges hence they're not 'approved'. They still exist but that is irrelevant.
jborkl: and do not sat the commnity, because a group of retards approving something is still a group of retards making a decision
jborkl: Who would approve- dissaprove securities - The only person I have seen competent in theis matter already has an exchange
samson_: If shares were issued on their own blockchain and could be freely moved between the various available trading sites / 'share wallets' there would be no real difference in trading a share to trading an altcoin. Something like this would provide no decentralised exchange but it provides a way to hold and move shares independently of any trading platform. Just like Bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: because everyone gains when nobody does his job well because he's too busy trying to do poorly the jobs of others.
mircea_popescu: rather than getting some pmbs that don't melt.
ThickAsThieves: "I think decentralized is the only way to go as this will happen to any other centralized exchange. Looking into the Namecoin code to create a decentralized exchanged. As was said above it can be merged mined with Bitcoin. We could uses our own miners to get it going." Ken Slaughter
jurov: like "if the company is a scam, then it can work"
jurov: i understood it the opposite way
jurov: no its not, especially if used like: unless the company is a scam, then it can work
gribble: South Sea Company - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Sea_Company>; Mackay, Charles, Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and ...: <http://www.econlib.org/library/Mackay/macEx2.html>; The Extraordinary Popular Delusion of Believing What You Read ...: <http://blogs.wsj.com/totalreturn/2011/11/11/the-extraordinary-popular-delusion-of- (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: ;;google "a company for carrying out an undertaking of great advantage, but nobody to know what it is" ☟︎
ThickAsThieves: thus a decntralized service would make their lives easier
ThickAsThieves: since they would never say who they really are
jurov: so to what you said "true" then? i'm confused
ThickAsThieves: thats the point
pankkake: unless the company is a scam, then it can work :)
ThickAsThieves: another area people think decentralization addresses is circumventing SEC and other regulation
ThickAsThieves: i'm not inclined to find out :)
pankkake: execute trades*
pankkake: even with only trusted nodes
pankkake: I'm not well versed in trade engines, but I don't see how you could execute them in a decentralized way
ThickAsThieves: "Such terms is rather ridicules and im sure they wont hold up in court in many country's"
ThickAsThieves: certainly not the forums
ThickAsThieves: circling back to, i'd love to see blog article from mp that supported what ive just described