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dexX7: verified with stock btc client + some php lib
that i'm using
to resolve (msg, sig) -> addr
dexX7: the other
two are invalid
BingoBoingo: Maybe
the problem isn't
the signature or
the message. Maybe Bitcoin Address signing is just fucked.
dexX7: is
the address
that is resolved for
this msg/signature
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe. You'd
think
they could at least verify
things right.
BingoBoingo: Jere_Jones: At
the most charitable where
there isn't a collision it ought probably assumed at a minimum Bitcoin address signing merely sucks and is poorly implemented. If you are
the sort who goes for minimums.
Jere_Jones: I'm not showing
that message verigying with 1LvCunts
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe. Maybe it is just some odd intersection and I need
to go back
to adding giberish at
the end of everything I sign.
mircea_popescu: i bet you 1LC9GzYK1zjrG9zAvMPExcwHTP8aPYPMyY could not have signed
the same message.
BingoBoingo: The problem is
that 1LC9GzYK1zjrG9zAvMPExcwHTP8aPYPMyY could have signed
the same message. Maybe it could have signed a more malicious message. Fuck. Just because elliptic curves are sexy doesn't mean
they should be used everywhere.
dexX7: mind
to give out some samples like messages + signatures for both addresses?
mircea_popescu: use a proper process
to
turn privkey into pubkey
then hash
that and see what you get.
BingoBoingo: Maybe I should go
to #bitcoin-dev or wherever
the muppets live and
troll
them up a bit with
this.
Jere_Jones: I can help you but you need
the private key.
BingoBoingo: 1LC9GzYK1zjrG9zAvMPExcwHTP8aPYPMyY apparently is an imposter for my beloved 1LvCuntsJyFFQsLuJhBXBPokbQa7SAyMr4 address in
the message signed on my contacts and credentials page. I'm
trying more messages at
the moment, but it looks like GPG is going
to have
to save
the day.
Jere_Jones: If you have
the private key,
turn
that into
the other public key and see if
that gives you
the address you're looking for.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu:
The key wasn't generated on a web based service, but a web based service
turned
the public key into an unexpected address.
mircea_popescu: they're shit. i could never get
them
to make usable addresses.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones It is just a standard Bitcoin address's underlying public key. mircea_popescu I'm not sure what
to
think anymoar. I will say fuck vanitygen.
Jere_Jones: BingoBoingo, are you saying
the same 256 bit public key ran
through RIPEMD160 gave you
two different answers?
mircea_popescu: the first would be a collision.
the second would be a case of 4+5 being sometimes 8, sometimes 9
mircea_popescu: multiple privates might hash
to
the same one address, but
that's insanely rare.
Jere_Jones: I imagined it
to be exceedingly rare
though.
BingoBoingo: Fucking NSA bullshit undermining
the Integrity of Mathematics.
BingoBoingo: pankkake:
This isn't GPG. It is RIPEMD 160 being able
to assign a public key
two (maybe more) bitcoin addresses.
Jere_Jones: BingoBoingo: Bitcoin addresses are hashed public keys, right?
The private key
that corresponds
to
that public key actually has
two public keys. A compressed version and a noncompressed version.
pankkake: that's why people should give
the full fingerprint
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah. I'm working on a report.
The report will probably be in
the form of a post
titled "Fuckity Fuck Fuck" as I GPG sign a revocation of a certain address's message signing privileges.
nanotube: mircea_popescu> im just here
to collect
the praise. admonitions go
to asciilifeform :D <- in
that case... good idea,
that cardano
thing! :)
BingoBoingo: So... I
think math is broke. Apparently
the public key for one of my addresses can hash into a different addresss.
jurov: nosuchagency can provide it.. as a marketing
tool
jurov: and i don't see how would devote hours
to
try cracking all submitted keys like
the researchers did
jurov: ^
the web checker would be no better
than
these certifications
jurov: As many of 10,000 of
these smartcards may provide little or no cryptographic protection despite receiving
two internationally recognized certifications.
mircea_popescu: im just here
to collect
the praise. admonitions go
to asciilifeform :D
mircea_popescu: it is possible
the unit just works with whatever power it's being fed.
jurov: good PSU's can supply more
than rated but still something's fishy
mircea_popescu: good AC should be able
to pump out something in
the .1
to 1 MW per floor
jborkl: considering
they bought 850 w power supplies, as per
the photos
jborkl: I wonder how
the KNC hosting center is holding up
to 900 w per unit? Reptilla should
take
trip
to
the sauna in
there
ozbot: And now I shall be off scarfing smoked salmon and fresh apple pie seasoned with free market
tears, o
kakobrekla: you can
test if
the blown cap can set it on fire
jborkl: hmm, well maybe not
then
mircea_popescu: it has a slight but present fire hazard and is
toxic if it burns.
jurov: i'm no expert.. supposedly it works with normal pc (except hdd), but 1kW is prolly
too much
jborkl: I
thinnk I am going
to dnk a blade in mineral oil and see how it does on
temps - just for
the hell of it
jborkl: I would have
to look at it and see what would fit it, otherwise
that could get really expensive - it also might
too big of a system
to cool it
jborkl: Mineral oil is so expensive, I have
thought about it many
times-
jborkl: "KNC support just emailed me back saying
that 440 ghash (what 50btc reports), 900 watts from
the wall, and chip
temps of 65-72c in a 58F room are 'within spec'...Not awesome."
jurov: heh right on
track
jurov: OP says below it's not a scam cuz
they did close
the acct
mircea_popescu: We kindly ask you
to withdraw your Bitcoins
to a wallet outside of Bitstamp.net. If you do not withdraw your Bitcoins in 24 hours as instructed in
the previous paragraph, please provide us with a valid bank account held in your name in a reply
to
this Account
Termination Notice so Bitstamp can proceed with your Account
termination and send you
the currencies credited
to your Account within 14 business days after your
mircea_popescu: "Bitcoins will be
transferred only after conversion into a currency."
mircea_popescu: course, electricity is a monopoly in most places for good physical reasons, so i guess
the btc
to watt
thing will be one of
the later parts.
mircea_popescu: recently i had a wire fail
to a supplier, and
they were "well, send me bitcoin ?"
KRS1: but what about
the Nigerian Sperm bank?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the reason it can't work in reverse gear is
that fiat is worthless.
KRS1: so
take fiat out of
the equation..are bitcoins actually worth anything
then? I dont know of anything you can do with
them besides get some goods and services, best case.
mircea_popescu: the 2nd way is... also mining.
through miner production.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i guess few are aware, but as per genius satoshi design
the main way
to move cash into bitcoin is mining
KRS1: one of
the only
tools people have
to move cash in/out of
the system
mircea_popescu: it's a venture circuit scam
thing, which is homologuous.
KRS1: Dwolla says Virtual Currency customers/merchants are 0.1 percent of
their customer base..Hmm.
KRS1: someone needs
to show
them
that lesson
Namworld: If
they want something not virtual,
they can just hold physical gold and silver or such
thing.
Namworld: People just need
to learn
their bank account statements are just as virtual.
Namworld: Key
to use and url
to submit appears as plaintext in
the compile.
KRS1: I
think so, but
they're still working with exchanges like campbx.
KRS1: Effective October 28, 2013 at 4pm CT, Dwolla will be withdrawing its service offerings
to virtual currency exchanges and virtual currency related services.