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naemsi: i'd like to say asking around here is part of doing homework since I know people here are generally contrarian. but sorry if I broke the rules
mircea_popescu: see #2 there.
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets rules and regulations pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
naemsi: _is_ there anything worth owning atm
naemsi: it's only available on havelock is the problem
naemsi: just thinking out loud really.
naemsi: If activemining was worth anything, i might move some over to that, otherwise stay out.
naemsi: well, it was two questions. I'm thinking to get out of HIM before crackdown, but don't know if anything concrete came out of activemining yet (I'm not on top of the news).
mircea_popescu: i can't believe someone's even asking about that still lol.
pankkake: activemining's the altcompany
mircea_popescu: it's trading slightly above the girl's estimation, what'd you hope ?
mircea_popescu: hope as to what ?
naemsi: i have havelock but tempted to get rid of it before inevitable US crackdown
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Diablo-D3: I wonder if almost 2000 shares of DMC are locked away in an account that no one uses anymore
mircea_popescu: obviously whities could not have figured out on their own this brilliant "shift letters" technique
Diablo-D3: and theres your mindfuck for the day.
Diablo-D3: which makes evil the good guys
Diablo-D3: thus, evil stops terrorism
Diablo-D3: because if evil was smart enough to win, they won before the modern world and have held power since then
Diablo-D3: this is why I think evil is just too stupid to win
mircea_popescu: Although the parties had access to far better encryption techniques (Karim himself used PGP for data storage on computer disks), they chose to use their own scheme(implemented in Microsoft Excel), rejecting a more sophisticated code program called Mujhaddin Secrets "because 'kaffirs', or non-believers, know about it, so it must be less secure".
mircea_popescu: In 2011, Rajib Karim was convicted in the United Kingdom of "terrorism offences" after using the Caesar cipher to communicate with Bangladeshi Islamic activists discussing plots to blow up British Airways planes or disrupt their IT networks.
mircea_popescu: In April 2006, fugitive Mafia boss Bernardo Provenzano was captured in Sicily partly because some of his messages, written in a variation of the Caesar cipher, were broken. Provenzano's cipher used numbers, so that "A" would be written as "4", "B" as "5", and so on.
pankkake: Error: Google 2-Factor MUST be enabled to transfer shares.
pankkake: lol I actually have that one share in first my bitfunder account
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mircea_popescu: well whatever they're worth, .1 btc
matthew_boyd: Not even for the domain name?
mircea_popescu: i don't think it's worth anything honestly.
matthew_boyd: mircea_popescu, you are the man with a lot of knowledge, if you were to estimate a price for http://altcointicker.com (domain + website) what would you say?
mircea_popescu: _Neil to answer your original question : an judged escrow service. people could, in principle, use bitbet private bets to resolve disputes of the nature the rota was supposed to resolve.
_Neil: OK. Just wanted to make the point. I'm happy. Thanks for listening.
_Neil: Your target audience, ultimately, goes beyond techno-geeks I hope.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the point you bring isn't without merit in any case.
mircea_popescu: sadly ips aren't impossible to fake, either, especially by a locakl attacker
_Neil: It makes it a lot harder, and more expensive such that joe blow can use it with reasonable confidence.
mircea_popescu: well, IPs are difficult to fake. domain names not so. this is a thing of the internet, i didn't make it that way
mircea_popescu: someone craks the tls (which HAS been done), comes and mitm's bitbet with https just fine
_Neil: And surely you wouldn't suggest that the only way to use bitbet safely, even assuming it were safe, is for users to screw around with host files on their machine.
mircea_popescu: this is a point. the problem with https is that it doesn't REALLY deliver that end to end promise.
_Neil: Unless something's end-to-end encrypted I can't really trust it. It's that simple. It's not my job as an honest person to figure out how to break it. I know it's been done many times.
_Neil: Sure. But you're the entrpreneur and owner. You have a substantial stake in its reputation.
mircea_popescu: explain to me how the ip based mitm attack works and how https mitigates it ?
mircea_popescu: i mean, youy have to realise, my technical involvement in bitbet is modest, i mostly do business stuff for it.
_Neil: OK, that's good.
mircea_popescu: i don't think it is a goal tbh.
_Neil: It's only a matter of time. You of all people, Mircea, know that.
_Neil: No not really. Avoiding HTTPS just for the ability to claim it's unnecessary isn't really a goal.
_Neil: Your lack of usage of HTTPS on bitbet.us is a little concerning. Who would know if there was an MITM attack against your site, which replaced legitimate funding addresses with a scammer's address?
mircea_popescu: you enter a pw when you create it, and only people with the pw can bet.
Bunnyh: i made a support ticket of my concern, and all they responded was "Thank you for your ticket. We carefully monitor users' activity for this scam not to happen."
pankkake: well I guess you could buy and then sell
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pankkake: http://www.zdnet.com/is-bitcoin-the-future-of-money-not-a-chance-7000021814/ if you ever want to rage for a bit
b0n1: is there a chart of the profit over time of just-dice?
b0n1: am i totally wrong or did the profit of just-dice increase by a factor of over the last day?
pankkake: yes. as a throwaway OS / live cd
pankkake: you've got to try it at least for the "camouflage" mode, it makes it look like windows xp ;)
mod6: never heard of / used it until now. here's the ws: https://tails.boum.org/
pankkake: with a bunch of stuff preconfigured, it has i2p too
mircea_popescu: o that
pankkake: it's a live cd, which forces everything to go through tor
mircea_popescu: anyway, anyone know this tails thing ?
mod6: there are a bunch of gems in that article
mod6: and these days, i agree with mp, if you want to feel good about it, gpg every file with your own key.
mircea_popescu: pankkake i know where the crazy character came from, too. it's on google results pages, after the url of results.
mod6: i guess i just like how you can slice and dice with it, and stackable. self-destruct is neat for orphans too.
mircea_popescu: i thought that was block based
pankkake: hmm I think I use GELI actually
mircea_popescu: i dunno what sort of intel community this is, on pps. it boggles.
pankkake: what do you like about geom? (I use both the freebsd and linux one)
mod6: yah. lot of damn pps. who the fuck uses pps these days anyway? oh yah, big corps and usg.
mircea_popescu: we know the leak involved stupid shit like pps etc.
mod6: and yah, i do happen to like the GEOM encrypted file system layer to freebsd, more so than probably the linux one. maybe im just more clued on that one. but its no substitute for gpg'ing every damn file.
mircea_popescu: well in his defense, he might have been stuck with it on account of whatever the snowden bundle contained.
mod6: its like "PDF Reader?!" .. wave in the trojans plz!
mod6: i like your analysis of that article by schneier.
pankkake: well, I see a weird character too: http://i.imgur.com/TWqJC8D.png
mircea_popescu: in teh source
kakobrekla: go to sleep you yuropeans you
mircea_popescu: a ty
pankkake: the "massive fork" link is broken, characters at the end of the URL
[\]: amazing kakobrekla is amazing to amazing kakobrekla is amazing to amazing kakobrekla
kakobrekla: the thing is
pankkake: no, check the character ;)
nubbins`: amazing. you'd think it wouldn't.
[\]: you see where I'm going with this..
nubbins`: "only connect to the internet a little bit, and do all this weird voodoo when you plug foreign usb devices in"
mod6: ok. i am disappoint. the guy wrote one of my all time favorite books: Applied Cryptography
mircea_popescu: i am doing a write-up of this,
nubbins`: "I downloaded and installed a) OpenOffice, b) a PDF reader, c) a text editor, d) TrueCrypt, and e) BleachBit."
mod6: cause that's idiotic
mod6: it seems bizzare that Schneier would write something like: " It's impossible to completely avoid connecting the computer to the Internet" ☟︎
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: i think that's an oxford comma
nubbins`: i've stopped using perfectly good pgp keys after absentmindedly connecting the machines holding them to the internet
mircea_popescu: "I downloaded and installed OpenOffice, a PDF reader" no srsly. this is ludicrous.
mircea_popescu: for the further record, any piece of hardware that was ever at any point in its life connected to the internet can no longer be used as part of an airgapped system. period.