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asciilifeform: didn't know they made those in rubber
pankkake: I don't like the buckling springs
pankkake: desk ergonomics are my first question to employers, before pay
pankkake: well I usually spend more on monitors, keyboards, than on the actual computer :)
asciilifeform: if you're in the cockpit 12-14 hr/day, give serious thought to your widgets.
asciilifeform: also convenient for toggling through screens, etc.
asciilifeform: great painless way to set those 'meta' bits when you gotta.
asciilifeform: sort of like dock workers' biceps in the old days
asciilifeform: when i was young i thought programmers would eventually end up being spottable on the street by their titanic hands
jurov: actually this one is inherited from my grandpa
jurov: i always seek to have big desk with monitor as far as possible... means whole hands resting and no RSI, foreplay or not
mircea_popescu: computers want to have fun too
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: foreplay here would be the learning. then a lifetime of, well, full throttle.
mircea_popescu: he doesn't rub the nubbin, he just plugs the hole.
asciilifeform: having to actually /move/ your hand is... atrocious.
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pankkake: I have to write an article about it, but keep procrastinating
pankkake: everything apple makes is part of the conspiracy to slowly physically weaken humans
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, this is also why ipads are doomed as a serious technology. no right click ? fu.)
mircea_popescu: yeah. loss of fine motor control as a result of inervation of the gross motor pathways.
asciilifeform: (what happens to a touch screen user, that is.)
pankkake: indeed. and still people belive the "minority report" interface is the future
mircea_popescu: it's really uncomfortable for humans to hold their arms extended in the air.
mircea_popescu: same problem as the touch screen :
mircea_popescu: i think it has a major ux flaw.
pankkake: but all the fun is moving your hands in the air!
ThickAsThieves: but there are decent plugins
pankkake: I always wanted a theremin. it's not that expensive either
ozbot: cat plays theremin - YouTube
mircea_popescu: anyway, you don't HAVE to underwrite options, you can pretty much cover all strategies simply buying
mike_c: then you will probably say "no" at that time as well :)
mircea_popescu: i think the sort of macro stability you want here may take a little more than a few months.
mike_c: ok. i will come back and try again in a few months
mircea_popescu: so, in general mike_c i can see some merit for what you're saying, and in the end things are going to move that way. mpex is in no way given for all time as it is.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah. tho he cheats by having the piano there.
mircea_popescu: suppose you have credit taken which gets called on the ground of exercises being announced.
mike_c: but it would take more capital to act on it.
mircea_popescu: announcing the exercise is not substantially different, in that it would send an actionable signal of the same type.
mircea_popescu: in a heavily mommentum traded by vastly the incompetent and clueless, on very little actgual capital
mike_c: ok. i would in fact be fine with announcing the excercise, but not returning the capital.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: the termenvox link: good illustration of virtuoso (vs. bozo) concept.
mircea_popescu: if you dump this 650 btc into buying more btc on margin, you are in fact adding to the noise
mircea_popescu: a week later, the price doubles. you get exercised. you obtain say 650 btc back.
mircea_popescu: you sell these for .15
mircea_popescu: let's take a case, as a for instance. you write 1000 calls @200, deposit 1000 btc.
mircea_popescu: conceivably it would cause panic, especially if you take the returned capital to immediately go the other way.
mike_c: we know when they are sold, but knowing when they are excercised would..
mike_c: i'm trying to figure out what problem the information would aggravate?
mircea_popescu: basically underwriting an option puts you in this firm, fixed term commitment.
benkay: mircea_popescu: is it true that exercises aren't assigned until end of month?
mike_c: not during the month
mircea_popescu: on the other hand, the btc options market is fragile, and this may be one of those cases where information aggravates problems.
mike_c: no, you won't. that's my issue.
mike_c: sort of they are though. when excercises are assigned the option holder knows about it
mike_c: i was hoping to sway you.
mike_c: um, last time you just said it "wasn't standard"
mircea_popescu: what has changed since the prev discussion ?
mike_c: mircea_popescu: i want to make one more push for announcing option exercises to assbot. it is the only way to know two things: 1) open interest 2) excercise costs. otherwise it's just a big mystery when/if the option holders are excercising and, not that mpex would ever make a mistake, there is no way for me to verify the excercise costs.
ozbot: Leon Theremin playing his own instrument - YouTube
mircea_popescu: and the 2nd doc is the registration paperwork of the panama fund thing. the first is a list.
mircea_popescu: Vp7771 you know you can just type mirc and hit tab, that way it actually highlights
BingoBoingo: jurov: I like this one. I mean one of my BTC addresses is 1LvCuntsJyFFQsLuJhBXBPokbQa7SAyMr4
jurov: omg..... BingoBoingo, u want to change it? but the old one ceases to work then
pankkake: referral links turn users into spammers
mircea_popescu: lol this guy's strings always end up like that
nubbins`: as if i'd follow a referral link that says "fuk u" at the end! ;)
BingoBoingo: skinnkavaj: You do know that there are very affordable and very good looking MPEx brokers right? https://coinbr.com/ref?c=a6P4RWfUKU
Vp7771: Mirceau what are those docs?
mircea_popescu: mpoe-pr is teh forum pm.
skinnkavaj: That was the funniest post on bitcointalk ever
mircea_popescu: in the sense you were right about investments recently, sure.
jurov: she's there to distract :D
pankkake: but the broken has a mermaid
mike_c: and it hasn't sold to the panamanians.
skinnkavaj: mircea_popescu have the ugliest security exchange in the world and most disturbing PR person on the planet
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mike_c: well, that was fun. good times everyone.
mike_c: but the market has spoken.
mike_c: yes.. lower than i was hoping for.
mircea_popescu: there doesn't seem to be much outside of that.
mike_c: ok.. if anybody is lurking and waiting to snipe these, you are running out of time. down to 0.16
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mircea_popescu: it's mostly so peopel don't go into tbtf mode.
mike_c: although your collateral requirements for options seem to account for it..
mircea_popescu: mike_c by the end of this month you can count on it as impossible.
mike_c: also, different conversation, 10k usd / btc does not seem impossible to me :)
mike_c: the rate of change of the underlying is not even a factor in option pricing.
Namworld: If we doubled in price every 2 months like that, in 1 year we'd be at 12,800 USD per BTC
mike_c: it's about volatility, not where the price is
Namworld: I feel the current price is maybe too high. It's nice that value is rising but I'm unsure why it needs to raise so quickly.
Namworld: The buyers at 0.12 are going to get reamed
mike_c: man.. i'm gunna get reamed on this. down to 0.2
mike_c: about to drop to 0.2
Namworld: Sell them for 0.12
kakobrekla: nanotube i just want to have the mans to point to a specific user to user action, could also be done in a way that log.bitcoin-assets works (with the hash tag in the url to jump & highlight a specific line)
mike_c: down to 0.24, no nibbles yet. http://mpex.co/?mpsic=O.USD.C200T
mike_c: if that's accurate, the directors are on the board of a ton of companies.
mike_c: for inspiration, last month people who bought my options made 28%. that's damn near 1% a day. price dropped.
mike_c: i heard a rumor there were smart investors in this channel