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truffles: not
that many women on
the internet
nubbins`: there was a guy selling pregnancy
tests on
the forum
truffles: " a bitcoin condom machine.."
that was a good one
truffles: if only
that bitcoin
thing could be used as money
ozbot: Look what came in
the mail
today. : Bitcoin
nubbins`: and
the oppressor grows larger still
Jere_Jones: Of course,
the vast majority of
them are really just fronts for
the big ones. Switching
to one of
them would be
the equivalent of switching from Sprint
to
Ting.
Jere_Jones: We've got a
ton of banks and
they all suck.
nubbins`: although i
think
the banking system in america is very different from here in canada.
Jere_Jones: And, as far as I can
tell,
there aren't any real good options when it comes
to banks.
Jere_Jones: Let's be clear, I don't want BoA
to succeed *because*
they are issuing mortgages
to people who can't afford
them. I want BoA
to succeed *because*
they have my money.
nubbins`: in fact, if one were
to suggest
to
them
that
they're attempting
to enrich
themselves
to
the direct detriment of others,
they'd proably be very surprised
nubbins`: i don't
think
that many of
the people bleating in
the AM
threads on btctalk have
the same level of clarity
Jere_Jones: I'm not *happy* about needing BoA
to not fail. But I would be in a bad spot if it did.
Jere_Jones: In both cases, I believe my answer would be yes. Because my financial well-being is related
to both.
nubbins`: take a moment
to examine
the parallels
nubbins`: do you want
the banks who offered sub-prime mortgages
to succeed?
nubbins`: i'm ambivalent about
their success
Jere_Jones: Don't get me wrong, I want ASICMiner
to succeed. But I don't
think
the box is news.
nubbins`: priced suspiciously like 3 blades in a box,
too
Jere_Jones: I'm not even sure
those are new. Sounds suspiciously like 3 blades in a box
to me.
nubbins`: AM1 made it all
the way
to 0.88 earlier, i guess people are really expecting a lot of suckers
to buy
those new box erupters or whatever
they're called
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nubbins`: and as a further response, i'd sooner put my eyes out
than work in IT again
nubbins`: i actually have no idea how ;;later
tell works, you know
nubbins`: ;;later
tell KRS1 professionally, i've coded in VB.NET, C#, java, objective-c, plus web-dev-related
things like html/xml, js, and sql
Ukyo: what does
the us user deadline have
to do with DMC ?
Diablo-D3: Ukyo: hey, at some point can you delist DMC?
the nov 1st deadline has passed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC
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mod6: anyway, i guess i'll get back
to it.
thanks for
the convo.
mod6: i agree,
there has
to be a better way.
mod6: ahh i see your comment and reply in
that article: I believe
that efficiency in computer design is a false god. Give me an “inefficient” but responsive and “Seven-Laws Compliant” computer any day of
the week in place of
the monstrous PC,
that race car which regards steering wheel input as mere advice and so eagerly speeds off cliffs and into embankments. << hahaha
mod6: ( i like
this
thread, even if it leads no-where in particular. just curious, searching for ideas. )
mod6: asciilifeform: so we must go back
to
the form of
the
turing machine or DFA
to re-invent
the modern os? or do you
think even
that must be re-thought because of
the possibility of quantum computers?
mod6: but we wouldn't have a map in what
to do, only what not
to do.
mod6: we'd simply only have a lesson in what not
to do.
mod6: so what if we got
to a point where we needed
to
throw everything existing away (now), how we would we proceed?
mod6: i guess
this might not be relevant.
mod6: i never personally switched
to dvorak because
the friend
that i have who did had
the issue of
trying
to constantly switch everyone elses computer
to dvorak if he wanted
to use it.
mod6: hahaha. yah but people are creatures of habit. but
thats only because it's been allowed
to persist. if people were only given
type A new keyboard (dvorak)
then
that'd be used. kinda like only left hockey sticks in soivet union.
mod6: i mean,
the idea of a 'successor of unix' is appleaing
to me, eventhough I <3 *nix (in general compared
to whatever, windows). it would be amazing
to have something abstracted
to
the level where it can handle physical systems and be virtualized
too and be next gen
mod6: i agree on philosophy
though. why build something
that is dependant on something undereath? how does
that get one somewhere?
mod6: haha do you mean unix
to be
the 2nd biggest steaming
turd?
mod6: yeah, it basically works, until
they change something
then you have
to re-pull all source and rebuild, etc.
mod6: one of
these guys has a hardon for implemeting xrp with it directly instead of btc, can't shake him.
mod6: Each Lamport public key can only be used
to sign one single message, which means many keys have
to be published if many messages are
to be signed. But a hash
tree can be used on
those public keys, publishing
the
top hash of
the hash
tree instead.
This increases
the size of
the resulting signature, since parts of
the hash
tree have
to be included in
the signature, but it makes it possible
to publish a single hash
that
then can be used
to verify an
Ademan: Dang am I happy I bought asicminer last week,
that paid off really quickly
mod6: with any luck i'll get CS working within
the libgcrypt framework
then can mod gnupg
to utilize it.
mod6: thought i should dig into
this article & related papers.
mod6: anyway, i was very intetersted in
the VPSS scheme even
though i'm sort of deep into implementing cramer-shoup into libgcrypt.
mod6: does
this matter in
the case where
the dealer is a shithead?
mod6: ahh, as far as leaking key part: Obviously should you reuse
the same key
to sign a different message you’ll be leaking key bits and eventually your key can be brokenii. << noted.
mod6: haha, i'd like
to implement it. but i gotta make sure i have my head wrapped around it first :)
mod6: so as in
the Lamport scheme: RNG produces 256 p & q respectively (512 hashes
total), each 256 bits in size
these combined are
the privkey (p1->256+q1->256 )all of
these
together equal
the privkey. and
the pubkey is each of
the 512 p's & q's hashed (256 bit) and concatenated
together?
mod6: you know whats bizzare? not having
to
translate
trilema.com from ro
to en
mod6: does anyone know if
TxDP "multi-signature
transactions" have been implemented in bitcoind or whatever from bitcoin.org? |
That page was last updated:
This page was last modified on 18 January 2013, at 14:57.
mod6: read it for
the first
time about a week ago. now, re-reading after some
thought.
benkay: mod6: gotta re-read it
three more
times.
mod6: which, actually, im suprised
there isn't any comments yet. despite mp asking for commentary...
mod6: so
this guy is
the gatekeeper for all BIPs? Please send all BIP-related email
to <gmaxwell@gmail.com>
benkay: amusing
that gox is still default for
ticker
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mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> you know what, i
think you should
talk
to ozbot some more. <<