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mircea_popescu: so it's a courtroom only in the sense that... it isn't.
mircea_popescu: it's right there in city hall, but let's pretend we don't know about it./
chetty isn't everyone
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: people have asked me why haven't escaped, and i answer 'i haven't $xx mil.' to which, eyes bug out, and i have to explain 'a real escape means retrieval is not simply legally, but militarily uneconomical.' << let me tell you a story.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: plus it isn't clear that paying the 'legit' fees gets you anything in the long run. who's gonna force usg to honour the cancellations when they decide not to? the devil ? << this is the most germane point. i'd rather pay power Y to cancel my citizenship with power X than power X itself.
thestringpuller: chetty told me she still pays US taxes and hasn't been there in like a decade
thestringpuller: i thought you can't run away from your debt unless you defect?
mircea_popescu: which is quite why the regular beatings delivered to them by people who didn't go to school. engineering - a comparable line of work - doesn't suffer from this plague of "he's a voodoo plumber and well... his plumbing is actually better than ours"
mircea_popescu: jurov well see, if your simile revolves around sex (and being gay is all about sex innit) then sex is best considered all around. the old "never use an item you don't see the full contours of" engineering caveat.
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't trust orlov much furher than i can throw him tbh.
mircea_popescu: jurov: asciilifeform re:orlov it's similar as russian police completely ignoring tortures of gays...if they aren't complicit actively, then it isn't massacre? << this theory is appealing unless one stops to consider they were by this token complicit in the murder of whoever many million "tutsi"s whatever the fuck that may be, happening wherever the fuck that may have happened at some point nobody cared about.
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ben_vulpes: and not personally. i don't do this crazy asset dance - i just build shit and acquire btc.
asciilifeform: chetty: it's a classic. from it comes the admonition, often repeated to 'discontented' folks there, 'shut up, sit, don't chirp'
asciilifeform: 'a sparrow flew in the winter, froze and fell down. a cow strolled by. shat out some dung, splat! - and covered sparrow. he warmed up and began to chirp. a cat strolled by, heard chirping, removed sparrow, and ate him. From this tale, three morals: not he is your enemy who plants you down in shit; not he is your friend who removes you from shit; when sitting in shit - shut up, don't chirp.' - soviet folktale.
asciilifeform: (original - 'Do not think. If you think — do not speak. If you think and speak — do not write. If you think, speak and write — do not sign. If you think, speak, write and sign — don't be surprised.')
asciilifeform: so, formula is: 'don't own. if you own, don't admit it. if you admit it, don't write about it. if you own and admit and write, don't sign your name. if you own, admit, write, and sign name, don't be surprised.' (apologies to rev. t. reese.) ☟︎☟︎
chetty: yeah bringing the children home isn{t all that hard, zero the balance and give em a plane ticket
asciilifeform: people have asked me why haven't escaped, and i answer 'i haven't $xx mil.' to which, eyes bug out, and i have to explain 'a real escape means retrieval is not simply legally, but militarily uneconomical.' ☟︎
ben_vulpes: 'course, hanging here doesn't help much with that.
ben_vulpes: don't outrun bear, be a less visible target than others
ben_vulpes: i honestly don't even see the point of expatriation
asciilifeform: plus it isn't clear that paying the 'legit' fees gets you anything in the long run. who's gonna force usg to honour the cancellations when they decide not to? the devil ?
ben_vulpes: today i learned that the html date field doesn't support placeholders
jurov: don't be naive people, common sense is an euphemism
jurov: asciilifeform re:orlov it's similar as russian police completely ignoring tortures of gays...if they aren't complicit actively, then it isn't massacre?
mircea_popescu: yeah, well, maybe you shouldn't trust that too far then.
mircea_popescu: want the cure now! And when we don't get it, we look for a witch to
asciilifeform: why burned cables? i can say right now. copper dealer doesn't pay for rubber - only copper.
mircea_popescu: knew a camwhore who slept with her laptop because the one time she didn't it felt snubbed and wouldn't work right the whole day.
mircea_popescu: except the crab doesn't go on the head
mircea_popescu: there really isn't a "counterbalance" to libiod.
assbot: Logged on 29-08-2014 05:11:06; decimation: the thing is, Admiral McCain probably didn't have to issue any special instructions to 'finesse' the investigation, the investigators probably all thought it would be a brilliant plan
mircea_popescu: and the subsequent ones didn't spread out but converged ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i really don't think its as political as all that.
asciilifeform: RagnarDanneskjol: i don't regard it as a proven fact that there necessarily is a 'root cause.'
asciilifeform: don't blame the murder on the maggots.
asciilifeform: there isn't, as far as i understand, a 'fix'.
asciilifeform: provenance << isn't about the differing principle of the proposed tester. it's about the fact experiment doesn't count if carried out wholly on apparatus constructed by a 'non-disinterested' party
asciilifeform: I don't know that they can be built << lol, anything that was built, can be built.
decimation: mircea_popescu: that's true, in that case the eastern bankers were all in favor of gold (as they didn't envision some gov't bank would be able to print infinite silver)
ben_vulpes: !t h rent
asciilifeform: (as if this needed repeating - but for completeness - don't keep sensitive non-public material on 'nexus' or similar machine.)
asciilifeform: and if he isn't, he should be
asciilifeform: all the money in the world won't conjure into existence 'the rabbit out of a hat, unless said rabbit is already in the hat'
asciilifeform: point being - we don't know how to repair broken cultures. the best we know - is how to help them die.
asciilifeform: (just as you can't fix, e.g., old age, with money - here's another 'yarchive' nugget - http://yarchive.net/med/conspiracies.html)
asciilifeform: decimation: can't fix with money. soviet professors rolled in cash (compared to most other occupations.) this just attracts poseurs.
asciilifeform: decimation: eco, pelevin, others - were clever chaps; understood that if you suck cock, you become a cock-sucker, even if 'your heart isn't in it' at first
asciilifeform: but once in a while you hear that some busybody found him and told 'fuck off, can't answer for your safety if i see you again.'
asciilifeform: if he's feeling charitable, he might leave archaeologists a box of notebooks the ants won't eat.
asciilifeform: partial, if you like. full perelman is when you haven't a post address either.
decimation: “I don't even have an E-mail address. I have reached an age where my main purpose is not to receive messages,” Eco said at a party in his honor at the University Club of Chicago.
asciilifeform: but poor s. apparently went 'full perelman mode' and doesn't write back any more.
asciilifeform: you can't pay your enemies to die.
asciilifeform: understand that the effect in question, even if it turns out to work as herr schwartz predicted, doesn't yield an 'antigravity jetpack'
asciilifeform: it won't: 'count.'
asciilifeform: decimation: we came up with a setup that didn't require eotvos balance
asciilifeform: vasmir doesn't violate newton's 3rd.
The20YearIRCloud: And from the papers I've seen, it doesn't seem to be signfiicantly more different than the theory behind VASMIR, and NASA was all over that 15 years ago
asciilifeform: don't shoot a man with lead and gunpowder, shoot him with pocket railgun on watch battery - classier.
asciilifeform: heat loss in conductors isn't terribly critical << consider why virtually all present-day applications of low temperature superconductors is in high-strength magnets.
decimation: The20YearIRCloud: doubtful. in most circuitry heat loss in conductors isn't terribly critical, and it's hard to imagine said superconductors would be better/cheaper to fabricate than the metals we are discussing
asciilifeform: usually the absolute conductivity isn't critical. resistance to corrosion and heat conductivity - is.
decimation: gold actually has worse conductance than copper, but it doesn't oxidize
mircea_popescu: o wait, it wasn't him. it was bush that hung for this
decimation: heh didn't hear about that til now http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/daily/jan99/mustard24.htm
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and this isn't even considering the variant with spurious lawsuits
The20YearIRCloud: $15k isn't much for a 'rare gold coin'
The20YearIRCloud: I don't know that they can be built, the costs were exorbant for non-military types
decimation: re: gult's gulch << I find it amusing that folks who supposedly value 'self-reliance' and 'liberty' are unable to actually fly to chile and buy some land for themselves, it can't be that hard for a person with means & brains
asciilifeform: decimation: esp. since the one and only event that could reasonably be insured against - contents present at logged date N and absent on opening N+k - wasn't.
mircea_popescu: (look at what happened when people thought the church is a people, started donating a little to it and inadvertently created the largest landholder because unlike them, thge church didn;t die regularly)
asciilifeform: (free up the men normally guarding for other pursuits; replace with king neptune, who can't be bribed and doesn't sleep)
mircea_popescu: if you don't like living, you can't be paid to live.
mircea_popescu: (you wouldn't be able to arrest anyone, but you would be able to void any application for a warrant)
mircea_popescu: now try and argue why it's not really fair that you're negrated because some major players didn't like your early anti-bitcoin involvement.
mircea_popescu: here's a thought : everything that has historical precendent now didn't originally.
mircea_popescu: ussr isn't remembered for having been led by the smartest people ever.
asciilifeform: there are folks (in usa) working on this variant as we speak. the ones that succeed and aren't provocateur shills - we'll know because none of them are on the net.
mircea_popescu: the usg collapsing doesn't make it harder.
mircea_popescu: The20YearIRCloud: There's a town close to me that once every year auctions off 250-350 safe deposit box contents, you bid per box and don't know what is in them. All are seized from people who either didn't pay up or forgot about em << isn't there a reality show predicated on this process ?
mircea_popescu: The20YearIRCloud i don't get what this "let's all go huddle together" thing is supposed to do.
mircea_popescu: i just walked into that didn't .
jurov: i was intrigued why it isn't possible for computer to keep asking for missing pieces until the task is fully defined
mircea_popescu: i don't readily remember the names of all the women i've been with either.
mircea_popescu: decimation i think the only reason it isn't a solved problem is this sort of argument : http://contravex.com/2014/08/26/infosec-education-because-stephane-bortzmeyer-is-lazy-and-im-not/ ie "usability". once you add that fuzzy requirement smart people get bored and leave,
ben_vulpes: ain't none
mircea_popescu: and if you don't you can make them make an index file.
asciilifeform: 'i even made a pony-monkey hybrid to please you! what's with all the screaming. you like monkeys, you like ponys. maybe i used too many monkeys... isn't it enough that i ruined a pony making a gift for you!'
asciilifeform: afaik patent trolls succeeded in more or less exterminating acceptable compression for scanned books. djvu was devised by folks who didn't care to comply.
Apocalyptic: I don't
Apocalyptic: mircea, I'm asking whether it's worth a read, I don't have nor know it
asciilifeform: anyone who wants to see these ruins - suitcase, airplane, don't wait for the scrap dealers.
asciilifeform: and i can hardly imagine that other nations didn't crib from their recipe.
asciilifeform: if you somehow learn where one is - don't touch it. they were all mined.
asciilifeform: don't drop the treasure near 'SOSUS'
jurov: um.. but with increasing amount of ocean trash, won't you have a problem to locate the capsule once it surfaces from $ kilometers?
decimation: good point. Notwithstanding the logistics issues. The advantage to your sea-vault is that it could be (in theory) sunk with submarine, which would probably be difficult for any advanced gov't to track.
asciilifeform for the record doesn't own anything worth the cost of ocean capsule.