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unbalanced: Collect it so I can send it to Ethiopia or Indonesia for more coffee.
thestringpuller: it's good for moving money around though
unbalanced: Not to buy a cup of coffee, although if I'm a coffee roaster, I may want to *accept* Bitcoin.
unbalanced: Find the utility, use them as a tool.
unbalanced: I really want to help popularize Bitcoin here in Canada, but without encouraging everyone to get them because they're just awesome.
unbalanced: MSM misconstrues that all the time.
unbalanced: Right, I'm with you there.
thestringpuller: unbalanced: no you can't, because that's not a good utility for it, and never was
unbalanced: But can we ever recommend that John Q Noob buy bitcoins to load on their phone to buy their daily coffee or smokes?
unbalanced: (which allows them to continue earning a living)
unbalanced: If it's the miner's only income they have to convert some to local currency to buy groceries and pay rent, electricity, sure.
taub: deflation is fine, but obviously rapid one like this isn't really classic deflation
thestringpuller: you can spend profits over time as long as you mitigate the cash flow correctly
thestringpuller: unbalanced: that's not true
unbalanced: The only valid thing to spend a deflationary currency on is something that will make you more money than holding it.
unbalanced: I think I've figured something out (or maybe read it here and boom, Inception)
unbalanced: They could throw up a matrix of 100 propositions by 12 deadlines. But I guess that becomes proposition spam with no one anchoring each one.
unbalanced: Samuel L Jackson remains the highest-grossing movie star of all time to Apr, May, Jun...
unbalanced: It could cover more outcomes though, not just the price of BTC at date X but any propositions bitbet users come up with.
unbalanced: But you're right, they wouldn't have a defined payoff.
unbalanced: If we assume that mpex BTC options are the only ones that count, a series of bitbets would let people speculate on something further out.
unbalanced: But futures the average new holder of BTC can grok.
thestringpuller: unbalanced: how would that be an alternative to options? wouldn't that be more of a futures contract?
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1155.5321, Best ask: 1164.57941, Bid-ask spread: 9.04731, Last trade: 1155.5321, 24 hour volume: 32093.19373638, 24 hour low: 1032.15, 24 hour high: 1224.59998, 24 hour vwap: 1143.64194
unbalanced: How much of that are you willing to allow? I could see a line monthly bets on BTC at 1000, 1100, etc all year long as almost an alternative to options.
unbalanced: http://bitbet.us/bet/627/1btc-1-oz-gold-before-christmas-2013/ seems to be a duplicate of http://bitbet.us/bet/598/1-btc-will-surpass-price-of-1-troy/ other than the timeframe
gribble: MtGox lag is 4.040613 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00809734321104 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Saturn to its largest moon, Titan (0.00802 AU).
nubbins`: you can trace almost every wikipedia article back to "philosophy" just by continually clicking the first non-bracketed, non-italicized link in each article
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] [PAID] 4.46208006 BTC to 8`898 shares, 50147 satoshi per share
Namworld: Well I'm somewhat retired from that. Arij manages pretty much everything for BitVPS now.
unbalanced: (Hi, I'm Troy McClure... I hung around here a lot during the April bubble, then reverted to reading the log site assbot made.)
unbalanced: holy cow the krug just transmuted your silver maple into gold
pankkake: I don't really like the color of krugerrands
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: oh hey, i got a krugerrand in the mail today
nubbins`: perfect until the forum you've stored them on goes down
pankkake: those that are generated from sentences
pankkake: that makes me think, you could hide private keys in plain sight
nubbins`: shit, that's where i keep all my bitcoins
Venat: can confirm trolltalk down
nubbins`: great, always a pleasure to work on something new
unbalanced: ^ Plenty of other ambitious things to do first of course ^
nubbins`: books, we usually do less than 100 at a time
nubbins`: have an order for 5000 silkscreened certificates in the works right now
KRS1: Google translate of the Chinese site okcoin.com translated Lightcoin as Wrightcoin. =/
pankkake: trop ? you're looking for too much books ?
Venat: je cherche trop de books? online
pankkake: I usually don't call them but draw them in the air
pankkake: Venat: the popescult
frb: also less than sign and greater than sign
Venat: what are these symbols called in english '< and >'
ozbot: [Mpex.co] The biggest scam in bitcoin history?
Venat: We should start the mircea cult
nubbins`: phew, just finished trimming 50 books by hand
unbalanced: I'd like to do an MPEX options calculator too. I will put a coinbr affiliate link up there, jurov... I'm not against affiliate links, I'd just want to add something useful to site to earn the traffic.
unbalanced: So charts, a mining calculator, how to guides...
unbalanced: The reason I care is I am starting up bitcoins.ca and I want it to have useful content, not just be an affiliate link hole like www.bitcoin.com
unbalanced: But instead of quoting Tufte he links at the top of that post to a Naomi Robbins PDF from U of Ottawa, so I hold out hope.
unbalanced: I haven't reached out to him yet, I just read his stuff.
unbalanced: Well crap. So much for driving over and taking him to lunch.
pankkake: that thing is stupid
pankkake: actually, blogspot redirects you to your country's tld
unbalanced: For Virtex first... things that the big charting gurus are ignoring.
kakobrekla: myeah should have switched profanity with politeness and left the not out
thestringpuller: unbalanced: you want to make a replacement for bitcoincharts?
unbalanced: thought you might have missed a word there but didn't want to get all the profanities for pointing it out
kakobrekla: they fuck me in the ass like a dog, then they expect profanity
kakobrekla: >SanDisk Technical Support is provided for customer service in which politeness and civility is expected of both support agents and customers. Use of profanity or abuse is not tolerated by SanDisk management. SanDisk management has authorized immediate termination of any support in which customer is intentionally being offensive or using profanity.
unbalanced: I'm sure bitcoinwisdom or clarkmoody could add Virtex too but we do a lot of charting at work so we figure it might be a way to make ourselves useful.
unbalanced: Decided last week to do something about it so if I pull it off I'll pre-announce here so you guys can tell me all the ways it sucks.
unbalanced: And thestringpuller, agree with you about bitcoin charts. I'm sick of having nowhere else to go for Virtex charts whenever things get interesting (read: dramatic) in the Bitcoiniverse because Bitcoincharts is down again.
unbalanced: For example -- BingoBoingo, thanks for the gpgpgp guide link above, I'll pass that around
unbalanced: That's what I feel like today.
unbalanced: What was that old Saturday Night Live skit where someone was so slow at conversation, the conversation would move on and then he'd come up with a comeback to something 3 topics ago?
nubbins`: even better if they bake, too
nubbins`: roasting actually stinks, better to move into a coffee shop ;)
unbalanced: Okay, so we move *next door* to a roaster. Noted.
nubbins`: i've had people on the next block call me and say "are you roasting right now?"
nubbins`: the problem with urban roasting at any scale is the smoke and odor
nubbins`: haven't touched it in a while tho
ozbot: Coffee Shrub | The Coffee Shrub
unbalanced: Small store to small famr.
unbalanced: I think it's this sort of 50lb-bag coffee buying where bitcoin is way more useful.
unbalanced: Noobs are always telling me that if they can't buy their Tim's with Bitcoin, what's the point? I remind them that not every part of the world has PayPass and Interac and all the other conveniences we take for granted up here.
nubbins`: they really know their shit, and they're not afraid to get their hands dirty
nubbins`: if anyone could pull it off, it's them
nubbins`: altho in the future, who knows?
unbalanced: I've been planning to write an article about direct global commerce / disintermediation and was thinking of coffee as a perfect case, and when I read your post earlier today in the logs it prodded me to actually fire up the IRC client for the first time in a while.
unbalanced: firstblockchain, if you're still lurking, ping me sometime re: direct BTC trade for coffee, I'll mention it to a local roaster...
kakobrekla: i hope i will, most of the order will be gifts for people though
kakobrekla: so i ordered about 3kg of coffee from that site
unbalanced: agreed... I'm fine with my basic setup, as long as they're fresh ground beans
nubbins`: honestly, with a Skerton, an AeroPress, and a kettle, you could make a cup of coffee that would rival any other. All for about a $60 investment.
nubbins`: Hario Skerton is a good, affordable hand-cranked burr grinder, but it's tiring
kakobrekla: o wait theres something
nubbins`: problem with blade grinders is that all your grinds are different sizes -- dust and boulders
kakobrekla: i dont see this brand in yurop
nubbins`: that's a bit much for me tho
nubbins`: the sky's the limit tho, some people spend thousands on grinders for their home
gribble: Coinbase BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 995.64, Best ask: 1022.61, Bid-ask spread: 26.97000, Last trade: 1002.55, 24 hour volume: None, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: None