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dub: anyway, you can't put a price on education, Diablo-D3 is no scammer
asciilifeform: decimation: others have, if i recall, carried out this exercise. it isn't considerably more interesting than running the emulator.
decimation: I was sad when I found you couldn't just edit in text, you need to use the 'colorforth' gui tool
TomServo: decimation: Hey cool thanks, didn't know about that one.
decimation: upgrade bell rang, didn't answer.
thestringpuller: you mean the phone's hardware can't keep up with the updates?
ben_vulpes: apple's done a decent job on the software jailing, so the phone operating system doesn't rot quite as quickly as its counterparts, so they're forced to release new "operating systems" that consume ever more resources.
ben_vulpes: don't try to leave the cage.
Diablo-D3: even if you restore a backup from icloud, it doesn't restore your photos into your local photo storage
asciilifeform: (other than 'stay in castle, don't use portable electronics at all')
cazalla: i don't have one but i will make one for this soon enough
ben_vulpes: i don't endorse this, but i am bringing it to your attention: http://straight.romansnitko.com/
dignork: i had to look it up, because I couldn't beleive they continue to market it as something that makes sense
bounce: somewhat puzzling that perl isn't more popular *rimshot*
ben_vulpes: (which i learned recently is still running on the "i don't know how to server, guise" "PaaS" Heroku)
mircea_popescu: don't these people know she';s black ?
mircea_popescu: so nobody is complaining. like, i can hire someone for 2k a month because they won't complain.
bounce: there's some outsourcing (and grumbling the work coming back is sub-par) and some grumbling about "jobs lost" and such. but the spacex thing is relatively recent, and I haven't really noticed much drive to cut the costs of the various wars being waged, for example. it's just... lower taxes, spend more, run up a bigger debt bill.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no need for rockets. you don't kill cockroaches with a .5
mircea_popescu: bounce right, "<mircea_popescu> it doesn't cost THEM fifty trillion to try and fail to build a new airplane."
asciilifeform has eyes, sees that it isn't happening, quite a few missing pieces with nowhere to come from
mircea_popescu: yes well, people don't undergo centuriesd of expense to fulfil a cartoon dream.
mircea_popescu: bounce stagnation isn't as bad as you may think.
mircea_popescu: bounce perhaps not very creative, yes. perhaps that may matter. if it will, it won't be this century.
mircea_popescu: china's parents woudn't approve, and moreover china doesn't want to be either stupid or in possesison of a car wreckage.
mats_cd03: you perceive the flow isn't imperceptibly happening in the other direction, too
mircea_popescu: it doesn't cost THEM fifty trillion to try and fail to build a new airplane.
mircea_popescu: and certainly the chinese have "problems" they never heard of. similarly to how putin "doesn't understand how reality works".
mircea_popescu: so you know, arab women are unhappy because they don't live in the downtown on foodstamps, which has to be better than what they got because what else is the speaker doing there ?!
mircea_popescu: china is traditionally a sort of dog vomit (the fungus). it doesn't really war.
mircea_popescu: where they don't need to invade places to win.
mircea_popescu: "Programmers have indeed created a universe where "science doesn't work." Learning where the permanent bugs and workarounds are inside a phonebook-length API teaches you nothing. It is anti-knowledge. Where your mind could have instead held something lastingly useful or truly beautiful, there is now garbage."
RPrpRP: mircea_popescu, won't attack you again if you don't post this attack's logs
RPrpRP: i don't think trilema is "unaffected"
Vexual: one can't prove anything on ones own anymore
Vexual: u don't mind?
Vexual: 9 outta ten scienticians can't be wrong, peer reviews shit is an ice dice
mats_cd03: they really don't cover the janitor/babysitter roles in the Army of One commercials.
mircea_popescu: definitely makes one suspicious if they aren't.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> bounce it gets complicated, obviously. tbh i don't have atm an opinion on the libre thing << My read. Watch the chopping for a year or two and see what happens.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they could it as however many gates it is made of. and conveniently forget to mention that they can't be rewired using the switching matrix (only a rather smallish number of 'generic' gates can)
TheNewDeal: wasn't the last conference like 5 btc entry?
bounce: ultimately the APIs it offers need to go since they're badly designed and tricky to use correctly. but you can't exactly do that for a drop-in replacement. this is a low-hanging fruit approach. though the new crew is IMO a better deal than throwing money at the guys that made such a mess of it, as google et al did.
mircea_popescu: bounce it gets complicated, obviously. tbh i don't have atm an opinion on the libre thing
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> bounce: search channel logs re: at least three separate discussions of how this came to be << you know, giving terms like "xilinx" is better than an empty search entreaty. he doesn't know what to search for.
mircea_popescu: * bounce didn't catch on to hiding behind lame excuses with the openssl folks, but if so that ought to be enough to get the s/w booted entirely, not just revamped. << it is.
mircea_popescu: bounce isn't it incredible how readily a circlejerk is formed
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mind that heuristics don't work well when lustration lists are involved.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> asciilifeform: yeah that appears to be the situation. I don't understand how a gui desktop 'requires' a particular init system <<< join the conga line heh.
decimation: probably not, but they aren't even trying anymore
mats_cd03: they're comfy man, i don't know what to say
mats_cd03: worst part was... they were only crusty when they weren't being worn.
decimation: I guess I haven't used either of those
mircea_popescu: i don't get it. so you just take a piss.
asciilifeform: decimation: yes, bureaucrats demand some electrical tests to show that 'black' won't short to 'red' by accident.
decimation: no, and I think that particular chip isn't available to regular humans
asciilifeform: (i don't insist there is no interesting answer to this question, just confess that i don't know one)
bounce: printable electronics getting closer, should be an interestin proof-of-concept though I wouldn't expect to even get full mipsen out of it.
bounce: tangentially, shouldn't it be feasible to get decent performance out of a suitably open-and-accessible-microcode cpu running on some fpga or other these days?
bounce didn't catch on to hiding behind lame excuses with the openssl folks, but if so that ought to be enough to get the s/w booted entirely, not just revamped.
asciilifeform: lennart p. isn't even a top candidate for the playing cards, because just about everyone already knows what he is.
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah that appears to be the situation. I don't understand how a gui desktop 'requires' a particular init system
bounce: didn't that stalking astronaut get caught with diapers due to long drive?
BingoBoingo: "Authorities speculate that Frein, driving with his lights off on Pennsylvania Route 402, failed to see a T-junction and drove into the swamp, then may have traveled 15 to 20 miles on foot to Canadensis, Pennsylvania, where his parents live." << Lesson here
bounce: guy wasn't looking where he walked and so walked right by the security checkpoints. obvious answer? evacuate the whole airport.
bounce: that doesn't feel quite right
assbot: ./jordanr1000 helped set up a fake computer to entice hackers. This is who showed up: http://t.co/RZLaXg52T9 http://t.co/dxkZd6ikMU
asciilifeform: 'wrecker' isn't even an exact translation. originally, 'pest', really, as in agricultural - or the rats and mice in kitchen
bounce: oh I don't mind them going the way of the dodo. the thing was rather moriarty was rationalising their existence as "best possible (evar)", which I disagreed with
mircea_popescu: but that can't work in the current system.
bounce: hmno, I don't think rigging the system is a good long-term strategy. it shouldn't be necessary, and if you think it is, you're venturing into empire territory.
xmj: some fucktard I ignore and haven't dealt with gave me a -1 rating
mircea_popescu: ;;rate xmj -1 Derp just won't shut up.
mircea_popescu: but that doesn't make them anything other than styles.
mircea_popescu: bounce well, they won't go anywhere for as long as the system that spawned them lasts.
pete_dushenski: why? because there weren't many things
mircea_popescu: decimation: I don't get the jews. why do they care about jews? They are just a small subset of europeans among the unwashed masses of europeans <<< you should learn yidish to see the things some jews think about some other jews.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: a professional scammer not scamming usg also, would be like a pro mechanic who won't fix own car << these words.
mircea_popescu: you both can't be sovereign, so you got yourselves a problem now.
ben_vulpes: it's pathetic the things can't even open a beer.
asciilifeform: 'doctor, it hurts when i do that.' - 'don't do that.'
asciilifeform: chetty: farnsworth didn't need a decade of free time. raster scan, fortunately, was a fairly simple item.
mircea_popescu: but unlike the other fucktards involved, he didn't go away into the night, and his efforts are at the root of why we even pose a problem to the usg today in the first place.
mircea_popescu: these aren't the same strength.
asciilifeform: (given that i don't have a proper rant written yet to go with it, above will have to do for now)
mircea_popescu: ou don't read trilema or any other venue where people who know more than you are likely to call you and your friends idiots.
mircea_popescu: MolokoDesk nah i don't think it's all that desirable. ideally no dependencies etc.
MolokoDesk: yes. oh sure. can't WoT without auth
MolokoDesk: it hasn't appeared on the main blockchain yet.
punkman: MolokoDesk: why wasn't 17nXdzdWdrLP5nqMJxJGC7ANqWQkqL2G5N published?
MolokoDesk: yeah, I wasn't going to suggest any mods to gribble even if nanotube would do them because everyone else's stuff would stop working.
MolokoDesk: gribble bans anyone for 5 minutes if they make more than 12 requests in a 60 second interval. that probably happened while deedBot wasn't voice.
punkman: it didn't like the text before the sig
mircea_popescu: don't put anything of unknown size into gpg.
punkman: it doesn't
mircea_popescu: problem is you don't know the block height when you save the file, do you ?
dignork: mircea_popescu: some fido period reference, i didn't have a computer then
mircea_popescu: but don't mind me, by all means, please continue, advertise to the social media crowd, that's where the power is lmao.
mircea_popescu: dignork: they do have something commercial, but I did not look too close <<< then people wonder why there's a bubble. why hello sir, when people can't be bothered with even looking at the "products" their name is so bad, i suspek perhaps it may be the case there's going to be problems achieving cashflow. just a hunch.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: also lol, mircea_popescu getting his boxes off dhcp just today...? < no, actually, "you had one job" woman forgot to pay netbill, ended up plugging their wifi into one of my spares so they can has interwebs they don't deserve.