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ben_vulpes: Framedragger: i am also curious to know what kind of requirements you have for a vps that your current loggotron doesn't serve. ☟︎
asciilifeform: them who want mig -- are the lucky'uns. all ya need is a bag of money this-wide and this-tall, and here's yer mig.
ben_vulpes: and i want a mig
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the main thing wanted by 'people doing most of the analysis' is a BOX THAT STAYS UP
ben_vulpes: 'read only sql users to a replica of the phuctor db' is, while an interesting project, not wanted by the people doing most of the analysis afaict
asciilifeform: (backups are a monthly affair, any more often would -- again -- grind whole thing to a screeching halt)
asciilifeform: the most i can offer to anyone is a static copy of the db. and that is supposing that the box comes back up, and stays up.
ben_vulpes: i too would like more detail in re 'shall provide a platform for those interested in analysing RSA keys'
asciilifeform: it needs a key eater that doesn't saturate the db capacity 24/7 -- yes. a server that doesn't fall down when washington farts on it -- also yes. 'js visualizations' ??
mats: i imagine this'd have a lot of applications in, ie, mosul, raqqa, and more modern battlefields of the future
Framedragger: regarding visualization, a more condensed question: if a javascript-using thing were delivered, would this be hated upon (and berated by asciilifeform) and accepted if otherwise good and properly maintained, or hated upon and dismissed (and berated by asciilifeform)? :) ☟︎
mats: i wonder what a limited remote steering package on a toyota camry is worth
Framedragger: re. visualization, i like stuff like this (mouse over on labels around the circle), but it's a hella lot of JS, and i share the hate towards the latter: http://bl.ocks.org/mbostock/7607999 - what's nice about btcalpha visualization is that it uses by-now standard html5 canvas directives (<path>) with no need for JS. ☟︎
mod6: Framedragger: aha. yeah, in my experience with ticketing systems ala scrum, it's my observation that if a ticket is "assigned or owned by Jeff, I don't even think twice about it."
mod6: Anyway, now that it seems that private a more rich ticketing system is wanted, these things can be considered for sure. Salud! ☟︎
mod6: Framedragger: point taken about 'owner' on tickets. I considered adding a 'assignee' or 'owner' for a given ticket(s), but with the narrow view of the first project (trb), i didn't want to discourage people from thinking about solutions for a given problem just because it had my name on it or something.
asciilifeform: i wrote, in the qntra piece, 'examine debianized boxes for nsaware'. now 'owner' will have a chance to clean up before any mass 'examination' takes place. ☟︎
asciilifeform: it's a syn flood.
pete_dushenski: mats: do you see the appeal in the whole autonomous driving thing ? it strikes me as appealing to the same neophilic and inconsiderate mind that wanted to vote shillary in simply because she's a woman and WOULDN'T THAT BE GREAT, not because the consequences had any bearing on the decision making process. frankly the idea that sv-shitware was in total control of my vehicle is frightening. that many millions
shinohai: Indeed pete_dushenski ... though I use a combo of both xD
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: after laocoon was getting connect/disconnect blackholed about a week ago i threw down the banhammer as well as manually banning some decently large ip ranges that were acting the fool. now very slowly catching up to full height but down from ~70 connex to ~15.
asciilifeform: now it pings, but won't take a tcp socket.
Framedragger: ($afk item #1 is "coffee grinder is a bit shit and requires force, i don't want to use force in my mornings.") :)
asciilifeform: when i reopen the thing ( which is definitely not now, i am sweating now over a long-behindschedule unrelated item coauthored with mircea_popescu ) it will be to speed up the key eater
mircea_popescu: often though i'm happy with just a bash. i think like once i actually wanted sql syntax
mircea_popescu: Framedragger ok but if one actually wants to sql on it, dumping it in a table isn't much work.
mircea_popescu: this, as an evolutionary superset of "i'll just dump a db of banners and you're more than welcome to match yourselves" ?
Framedragger: i suppose a more simplistic thing to do would be for me to fish out those banners, convert into decent format if needed, and to give to whoever wants :)
asciilifeform: i got a thing that curls http://.....phucked and goes , nmap, fetches ssl certs if 445, etc
Framedragger: well, you wanted to run, say, DISTINCT on banners. it sure would be great to do it in a non-hacky way, and for others to allow to do the same, no?
mircea_popescu: the part i don't follow is where isn't this a waste of your time ? you seem to be trying to do something akin to "i will create a gui atop this command line". ok... how will you guess aforehand what buttons people want to push ?
Framedragger: i'm unclear what to do with 'live data feed', but i don't think it's a problem. it could just sync with phuctor at timed intervals.
mircea_popescu: so you want to pipe data from phuctor to a vps, and display it there ?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: by db i mean a postgresql populated with phuctor data.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: if i put even slightly more load on db, site will grind to a halt
Framedragger: second 'portal' would be more simplistic and would, first off, be a simple way for me to present some non-gimmicky visualizations, e.g. what asciilifeform suggested some months ago.
asciilifeform: it isn't whole bag though - i had to make manual sql queries, and wait quite a while, to get the stats for the recent qntra piece
Framedragger: there would be, as per my current plan, two 'portals'. one would expose the db (postgres). current plan: ths would use phppgadmin. it's maintained and stable. user would make use of a read-only db role. so you could run sql queries on the whole thing. "whole thing" = sql schema which
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform suppose he reloads the phucked page every time he gets a rss feed which doesn't include items he already has.
mircea_popescu: not terrible, has all the needed parts except "which shall provide a platform for those interested in analysing RSA keys and the surrounding metadata collected and provided by Phuctor" could benefit from (such as : by x, and y, and z) as it's currently not even vaguely clear what i could do on that platform.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: asking for advice - should i include a note that should additional hosting resources be needed during the 12 month period, an additional grant (it'd include supporting data of course) may be sought? just to be transparent?
Framedragger: i see that http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/UCI_tickets.html doesn't have an 'owner' field - can sometimes be a useful thing, no?
Framedragger: it's nice to be able to have a virtual box for cheapsies - can be migrated to bare metal when the time comes.
Framedragger: (also, my initial plan was to ask for a month as i can't predict with absolute certainty actual resource requirements. but i think i have a decent picture of what's needed.)
mircea_popescu: then once approved someone can write a qntra piece about the whole thing and lo and behold, crony republicanism!
mircea_popescu: you need what, .15 btc for a year ?
Framedragger: nice, sounds like a proper process.
mircea_popescu: how about you apply for a grant to the foundation and i lean on ben_vulpes / mod6 to approve it ?
Framedragger: i was wondering, would S.SNA (or whatever entity) be able to pay for a VPS? 9.6 EUR / mo., payment monthly, my VPS accepts bitcoin.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i plan to set up a "phuctor results investigation dashboard". (iirc trinque or someone planned to do sth of the kind, but since this overlaps with the "check distinct banner amounts etc", i may as well do it properly). nothing fancy so as to keep it actually deliverable, but i have a plan.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-19 04:41 mircea_popescu: "no, i found it in a plastic bag in the alley behind the hotel where i used to work."
mircea_popescu: a country of farmers with "vida de noche" which consists of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-19#1570491 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: if danielpbarron ever visits ima feed him a sarma there :)
Framedragger: a working computer *may* just not be available in the future, i do believe that fully. not to go all cliche dystopian, but neural implants based on Secure Microsoft Quantum Encryption(R) and the likes may be what people use to "compute" in the future
mircea_popescu: $1k was nothing in 2012 like it is today ; and would have done nothing more for me then than now. what i bought for it was pretty stupid, according to the experts of the time, and doomed to failure. a working computer is pretty stupid, according to the experts of 2016, and obviously doomed to "it can't work".
mircea_popescu: and NOW we shall come back to your http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-19#1570510 : it's easy to misperceive that whatever, the republic, take it or leave it, in 2016. it's easy to think that hey, maybne i;ll make myself a computer that works, or maybe i won't, who cares. in 2016. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: as this realisation grips the masses, watch for the populist politicians display a turn of heart about the term "future".
mircea_popescu: is nary a spec in this history and soon forgotten like bell bottoms and whatever other fashionable nonsense. 80s hair and 1790s sociopolitics.
mircea_popescu: by and large, the notion that the common man may have a say in his usage / fate is coming to a close. it's some weird shit some dudes pulled out of their ass and then argued persuasively a few centuries ago, it was tried in a massive social experiment, and showed to not work in any conceivable implementation. to call this a trend reversal is to entirely miss that the alternative dominates millenia by the hundreds ; "humanism"
mircea_popescu: just because i'm influential doesn't mean i'm universal. a grass eating quadripede in south america is just as much a herbivore as the common horse, even if they never met.
Framedragger: (i wonder if there is a retribution/psychological component to this. but maybe not.)
mircea_popescu: so no, i don't want joe q mschmucky to "understand" why if he fucks up his payment we keep the txn. or to accept it, or to think it's a good idea.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: hmm. okay, i guess i get that this implies a wholly different approach.
mircea_popescu: the idea is for the republic to be imposed, preferably at the point of a sword, and painfully, VERY painfully, depersonalizingly painfully, to the common man.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger see, but there's a larger point here. i dunno if you followed the recent discussion re nirvana, but in any case : it is specificlaly NOT the intent of the republic to become popular.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 22:58 mircea_popescu: Framedragger hey, i paid a grand via paypal for like 60 btc back in 2012. back then bitcoin was still enjoying the benefit of not having been popularized.
mircea_popescu: indigence is not a strategy.
mircea_popescu: and the obvious response "we have no fucking idea" isn't on the table because coinbase ISNT a bitcoin company.
asciilifeform: http://archive.is/gZqQJ << in other lulz. 'The tax agency sent a broad request on Thursday to Coinbase, the largest Bitcoin exchange in the United States, asking for the records of all customers who bought virtual currency from the company from 2013 to 2015.'
mircea_popescu: "no, i found it in a plastic bag in the alley behind the hotel where i used to work." ☟︎☟︎
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/11/18/an-exercise-in-wot-gambling-on-very-very-silly-timescales/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - An exercise in WoT gambling on very, very silly timescales.
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-18#1570311 << he off in like the end of '11. popped back up a time or two in early '12, iirc. ☝︎
lobbes: heh, that was the second thing I did after learning how to view a directory in non-winblowz (this is even in logs!). Not hard, but laziness most likely is the problem of Gaboose. For all we know, he is a literal dog with a smartpohne, never to be aware of this conversation
mod6: i'll be putting in a bunch of testing myself this weekend.
ben_vulpes: !!up Gaboose yo get a connection that stays up, would you? the join/part spam is entirely unnecessary.
BingoBoingo: http://www.returnofkings.com/101050/3-reasons-why-you-should-apply-for-a-job-in-the-trump-administration << OMG these people are way behind us on applying for Trumpreich appointments
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Of course. Okcupid used to be a waste of time then, OMG run mp scripts and then datez.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 22:03 gabriel_laddel: trinque: I even created a program to meet girls.. no dice thus yet.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-18#1570400 << /me currently holds a few girls who allegedly owe for their ustardian education. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: basically they're trying to get a "social emergency" declared, and have free money thrown at people "because they need it" somesuch.
ben_vulpes: ahaha "a demonstrator disguised as santa clause gestures next to a christmas tree with signs demanding aid plans and reform bills"
ben_vulpes: a) i dunno that georgians live in anything but b) who knows if it was even 'his'
asciilifeform: woah, black d00d in a trailer?!
asciilifeform: 'The Bitcoin community and, especially, miners, now face the most important decision in Bitcoin’s existence. They are to choose between two fundamentally different visions for bitcoin’s future. Segwit, a centralized capacity increase from 1MB to around 1.7MB, or Bitcoin Unlimited, a decentralized mechanism for on-chain scalability decision making. ' << sanity not, according to this thing, on the table ..?
asciilifeform: 'A representative from Bitbank, in response to the same question, responded by linking to “A Statement from Members of the Bitcoin Community,” which announces a $1.2 million grant fund for Bitcoin protocol development. ' << lel, wai so miserly, if gonna bribe folks to shoot self in the head, oughta offer more
mircea_popescu: Framedragger hey, i paid a grand via paypal for like 60 btc back in 2012. back then bitcoin was still enjoying the benefit of not having been popularized. ☟︎
Framedragger just got email from kraken "Security Advisory: Mobile Phones" wherein it says that, you know, wait, your mobile phone is actually not a super secure device. maybe be more careful. lols
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: it is actually nice to consider that all that paypal moneys i received for bitcoin in -otc were not chargeback'd. it's a nice feeling. but i suppose that's chiefly because 1) i hadn't done that many transactions, and 2) amounts were low...
mircea_popescu: so you know, add it in help output as a matter of best practice
Framedragger: but yeah, it is confusing a bit...
asciilifeform: no, just a convention
asciilifeform: would be useful to have a
mircea_popescu: anyway. basically, sjws staged a coup, got left behind, place kinda rotted away or w/e.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: btw, i later wasn't much in touch and didn't follow your fallout with nanotube much. maybe there's a trilema article tho?..
deedbot: Framedragger rated mircea_popescu 4 << Look, I haven't made up my mind, but he is a very constructive terrorist.
mircea_popescu: lol. yes, he was a grammer naxi correcteing ppls grammer 24/7
Framedragger: i'm trying to recall, was he a grammar nazi a bit?
Framedragger: !!rate mircea_popescu 4 Look, I haven't made up my mind, but he is a very constructive terrorist.
Framedragger: oya, helped a kid. he gave me coins iirc