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pankkake: anyway to access TPB: http://proxybay.info/
pankkake: there is a thepiratebay.bit… but it's domain squatted
asciilifeform: would anyone care to explain why namecoin, when you can encode name-ipv4 pairs in the conventional blockchain trivially
ozbot: The Pirate Bay changes domain to stay ahead of the law | T3
pankkake: what stupid thing did they do this time?
mircea_popescu: diginforce is Gridseed total online sales agents, sales are now sold out yesterday, there is no development board conference
mircea_popescu: Hot Search: pumpkin baked cat butterfly KNC Bitfury Bitmine Avalon TMR
KRS|Gotyawallet: dig that first comment, reserved for a certain team-
KRS|Gotyawallet: here is the english translation of the site
mircea_popescu: possibly. many people involved in mining are from the "old world"
asciilifeform: does anyone even remember how to design with ECL circuits nowadays...
asciilifeform: re: asics: anyone crazy enough to build a discrete-TTL logic miner yet?
KRS|Gotyawallet: This hw offering is from China, land of the asics. It must not be a scam. I heard the chips grow in the wild there. It must be wonderful. http://www.cybtc.com/thread-3396-1-1.html
mircea_popescu: so you've just moved the goalposts.
asciilifeform: any kid who can still wiggle out from under the conditions with finesse should be marked passing.
mircea_popescu: this is the exact equivalent of the "poorly specified bitbet bet" fallacy.
mircea_popescu: you are wrong to imagine this problem can be solved by specification.
asciilifeform: that is, one ought to ask 'you are alone in the desert, even the shirt on your back has worn to tatters, you encounter the obelisk of ozymandias, quite tall, and wish to measure its height before you die of thirst, with nothing but your remaining barometer.'
asciilifeform: pankkake: 1 or 2 of these are interesting, in the sense of 'what not to do'
mircea_popescu: lemme see if i find this
asciilifeform: let somebody give the same test with (kindergarten level) electric circuits.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, do you know the story of the kid who wouldn't pass physics exam ?
mircea_popescu: as all cognitive tests, the one proposed measures more the bias of the tester than the subject.
mircea_popescu: "otherwise you need to use the 'code-cracking' part of your brain to try and infer a meaning from an unknown syntax."
mircea_popescu: incidentally, there is a good objection there : the example given seems very tilted toward people with experience in a C-like language.
mircea_popescu: same thing.
asciilifeform: or just let them go broke, and they can join the crackpots who spend their lives teaching dolphins sign language.
mircea_popescu: inasmuch their problem is a relation to the self rather than to the world, the only way to have them relent is to change them
asciilifeform: maybe these folks will relent once they understand that even literacy cannot be taught to everyone.
mircea_popescu: which in the end boils right back into the old trunk of crafting the perpetuum mobile.
mircea_popescu: it's not so different from the conviction one can patent medicine,
asciilifeform: alan kay (smalltalk), the original 'i'll teach even monkeys to program' fellow, persists in this delusion.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is the original font of bureaucracy.
mircea_popescu: and he imagines this means the conclusions of the test only show how desperately the world needs more teachers.
mircea_popescu: check out this guy. he's a teacher who feels able to help people fake the test,
mircea_popescu: But to blame the poor education methods on students willing to acquire the knowledge is just ridiculous.
mircea_popescu: e to blame the students and not the teachers. Now if a student is *unwilling* to learn the material then that is another question.
mircea_popescu: "The interpretation of the results of the above assignment test make me feel angry. I am not a teacher but I am confident that I can teach (in less than 15 minutes) any person smart enough to be admitted to a computer science class how to pass the above test. The results speak volumes about the utter ignorance of educators regarding the nature of human knowledge and how to acquire it. It is a tremendous act of injustic
pankkake: there was a community named "horseporn junction" that I was not part of, but it might be a hoax
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ah yea. meant the earlier link
asciilifeform: ed is still, afaik, the only place where you will find some of the more interesting and factual (older) 'paladin press' works.
asciilifeform: (nothing against the latter, but the former is more what i had in mind)
asciilifeform: pankkake: are you a member of any that have 1970s soviet trinary mainframe manuals, rather than peculiar and rare fetish porn?
pankkake: and then there's the odd soulseek, still up while having some heavy centralization
pankkake: that's not really true anymore. public bittorrent yes, but private communities are thriving
pankkake: edonkey network still has some active communities and good stuff. actually it was the only one of those with actual communities
asciilifeform: and, afaik, bearshare is dead, but the (DHT-based) 'edonkey' is still up and running, and stuffed full of high-quality rarities
mircea_popescu: i think it varies.
thestringpuller: what is the recipe in romania?
pankkake: but then you have to ask yourself why would anyone sane still use bitcoin
pankkake: yeah that's the one
mircea_popescu: when it first dawned on you that
mircea_popescu: nah it was a coupla days before that i think
pankkake: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-12-2013#411741 that might be it, if you're willing to read the whole day I guess ☝︎
nubbins`: i remember that
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nubbins`: aha, the one guy referred to mp+-pr as "shim"
mircea_popescu: nubbins` hollywood got nothin' on this.
nubbins`: this will be equal parts comedy and tragedy
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://www.cs.mdx.ac.uk/research/PhDArea/saeed/ << the paper chorror references has mysteriously disappeared in tjhe meanwhile.
ozbot: MPOE-PR, almost two years in the swamp. An anthology. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: lmao, so anything to avoid an actual delivery bet huh ? we make a fake bitbet out of forum paste & spit, pretend and pray.
mircea_popescu: i don't rly read the forum
pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358820.0;viewResults you have to wonder, who are those 7 guys?
pankkake: you've got to see the custom mining hardware forum too, where shareholders shill for their companies that are not shipping
pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg3884221#msg3884221 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297530.msg3883958#msg3883958 perhaps… unless it was on irc. I post too much crap
mircea_popescu: pankkake you were saying a few days ago about being disgusted with ppl lauding scams just because they hope they get a little back ? where is it, i want to quote it.
asciilifeform: but the study of the underlying pathology is useful.
mircea_popescu: if the box ain't functioning, there's no guarantee you end up with a web. even a not working one.
asciilifeform: people who can't (or won't) do arithmetic and turn into the Financially Sad are nothing new
mircea_popescu: you seen the pictures of spider;s webs made by high spiders ?
asciilifeform: a shocker for the teacher, not for me in particular
asciilifeform: their answers did not sum up to a consistent picture of anything. even a mistaken picture.
mircea_popescu: why is this a shiocker ? or in what perspective ?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: the real shocker was that the 'back hump' did not cough up a model of the problem. even a wrong one.
mircea_popescu: it went from "indicator light" (algebra) to "execution squad" (bitcoin)
kakobrekla: > •8% of students didn't give a damn and left the answers blank.
asciilifeform: and these sample people think that training circus animals is cruel.
pankkake: "most people can't learn to program" is really true. but it goes against the egalitarian ideology "you can do anything"
mircea_popescu: what bitcoin does is it meaningfully sepparates the population, and i see nobody credibly arguing for extending human status past the 2nd bump
mircea_popescu: i wasn't kidding when i said they're turning into niggers.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin actually happens to be a two hump sifter.
asciilifeform: 'the camel has two humps.'
mircea_popescu: if they had the mental power to catch up they'd be doing better money than whatever foodstamps "the press" pays.
sbp: 2013, the media still hasn't caught up with programming, let alone bitcoin
sbp: "bitcoin entered the world on Jan. 3, 2009, when a shadowy hacker — or team of hackers — working under the name Satoshi Nakamoto released an ingenious string of computer code" — http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/15/sunday-review/the-bitcoin-ideology.html
mircea_popescu: and im halfway through this fucking thing.
pankkake: lurking moar should be taught in school
KRS|Gotyawallet: entertaining conversation..kind of relaxing watching the lemmings isnt it
mircea_popescu: i guess there's newbs and then there's noobs.
KRS|Gotyawallet: noobs get the memo then noob on in light of that
pankkake: so noobs are ignorants that didn't lurk moar
KRS|Gotyawallet: ignorance != noob..matters are that said noob did not get the memo
mircea_popescu: pankkake yeah, noobs handle their ignorance differently. but still, how else do you know a noob's a noob ? by their ignorance.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing new in this world except for the history you don't know.
thestringpuller: there's hope for n00bs cause MAY be able to teach them
mircea_popescu: isn;'t that the definition ?
pankkake: there's the humble noob and the entitled noob
mircea_popescu: imo that's a noob.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: this is less of "i'm a n00b" and more of "i have no idea how economics really work and believe we should just print more money so we can fix our bad debts. Make it rain Ben Bernanke while I suck your dick."