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fiat500: "on average
the MPEx investor buying discontinued assets exclusively made a net loss of about
two percent over
the course of a little more
than a year and a half"
fiat500: has
the average investor done well on mpex?
jurov: pizzaman1337: only if you can find a provable way
to forget your gpg key
pankkake: I already
thought registrations were discretionary
mircea_popescu: the financial half. you also gotta be able
to
talk
to
the exchange.
fiat500: the 30btc is your version of accreditation
then
mircea_popescu: you're not buying something from me, you're proving something
to me.
fiat500: the accepted
theory on deflation is it causes prices
to drop, looks like you're having none of
that (or dont care about USD exchange rate)
mircea_popescu: and if 40k is
too high,
then people should pay less per btc
fiat500: thats a nice way
to look at it
fiat500: mircea_popescu: curious, say btcusd is at $40k, just
to pluck a number out of
thin air
pankkake: I believe
they don't have
the best interests of shareholders anymore
Duffer1: even if
they aren't a scam just look at
the
track record of
their offerings
sundun_: bc of all
the failed securities
sundun_: mircea
thinks havelock is a scam
pankkake: if you can get 10% if it works, but it has a 50% chance
to work, it's way
too risky
pankkake: the "can't afford
to lose" is certainly
tired, and highly incomplete. you have
to judge what is
the risk and
the potential reward
twizt: just gotta make sure u if you should
take certain ones or not
sundun_: don't invest anything you're unable
to lose
sundun_: i didn't
think it would be a big deal
to invest in neo&bee
fiat500: (also lets not consider cases where
they are forced
to because
they've reached a
threshold of stakeholders)
Duffer1: pankkake
there is hope still, he did find his way here
pankkake: mircea_popescu: I've been accused
to do
that. same as mining
sundun_: financial support
that
they need
to run business
fiat500: sundun_: why do companies list
themselves on
the stock market in general?
mircea_popescu: they are,
they just
try
to conspire
to keep you away from
the really good stuff see ?
sundun_: you're saying
that i shouldn't invest cuz i'm not completely knowledgable
fiat500: dont just invest in btc "business" for
the sake of doing it
Duffer1: even if you do know what it's about, it's very unlikely
to outperform btc itself as an investment
pankkake: if you don't really know or understand what
the
thing is about, if ANYTHING is unclear, don't invest
Duffer1: there are always going
to be projects worth supporting
mircea_popescu: <Duffer1> btc is almost certainly a better investment
then X << ESPECIALLY if you don't really read/know what X does.
sundun_: so everyone here does not want
to invest in bitcoin securities?
Duffer1: btc is almost certainly a better investment
then X
sundun_: and
the guys
that you ivnested in
sundun_: and
that's why you don't advise it?
mircea_popescu: "i got no
time and i gotta invest". H. Ellison's sequel.
Duffer1: assbot has
tourettes (amazing)
sundun_: sorry i'm super nooby i want
to learn more >_<
fiat500: this is not
the right way
to look at it
mircea_popescu: ll be very sorry after you lose your btc, better hold on
to it.
fiat500: 4:04 PM <sundun_> but i want
to invest in btc buesinesss
sundun_: sigh i just sent half a bitcoin
to havelock
sundun_: but i want
to invest in btc buesinesss
Duffer1: dundun_ if you're unsure of
the offering or
the exchange
then just hold onto your btc for dear life, do not let go
sundun_: azoo sure.
they reorganised as a entity run by "no one", recently. after which
they allowed
their largest company (virtex)
to simply walk away from
the investors 12:57:29mircea_popescu:collected >4k btc
this year, paid no dividends, is now gone.
jurov: sundun_: if you're srs with
the inestment, prefer full infor over
tldr
fiat500: is
the situation in cyprus really
this dire?
jurov: virtex, havelocks biggest asset, went into
trouble
sundun_: you want me
to read
that long chat?
mircea_popescu: at
this point you'd have
to be off your rocker
to do anything involving havelock.
sundun_: haha you're saying it's good
that ive already decided
to invest
jurov: so you aren't
thinking about
that anymore
sundun_: or via
the lmbholdings site
sundun_: anyway i was
thinking of investing in neo&bee
sundun_: i'm not sure what
that means XD
jurov: i was going
to ask anyway
mircea_popescu: sundun_
this chat is
the heart and especially brains of btc finance. what do you need ?
mircea_popescu: jurov i don't imagine
they'd look
too kindly on you fronting for ppl on your own acct anyway
sundun_: but i dunno how active
this chat is
sundun_: o i guess
that's a yes >_<
jurov: heh looks *I* will have
to do with briefcases of cash, if someone exercises
them via coinbr
pizzaman1337: MP comes with a briefcase full of cash
to my door?
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 1099731120.92 based on data since last change | 1191737820.33 based on data for last
three days
mircea_popescu: "hello i am your new waiter after eating here for
three weeks i am now qualified
to make food.
the brainwashing is real good, please
try it."
mircea_popescu: "I want
to introduce myself. My name is Michael from Cloudhashing.com, and I have
taken over
the public relations work
there after being one of
their customers since August. I will be
the only one writing from
this account now. "
pankkake: projects of alternative roots never went far,
too.
there was .42 which gave pretty much nothing
pankkake: I
thought
their browser already existed, and
that it was a
tor bundle fork
mircea_popescu: also just made
them an offer
to sponsor
them, curious if
they manage
to find
their way out of
the paper bag.
pankkake: it works in
the sense
that you can register a name, update it, etc.
pankkake: it works, but
the
tools suck or do not exist
mircea_popescu: well inasmuch as
they don't really work for
that which
they are for, arguably it doesn't matter.
pankkake: people buy namecoins but have no idea what
they are for :|
pankkake: namecoin features could be added
to bitcoin, but
the idea was
that miners would be against it… well
the result is now no one cares
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
this is
the first
time a dns server has
to handle 10gb of cruft
to resolve a query.