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asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lol!! i thought crapple was to 'buy russia'

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-14 13:52:44 mp_en_viaje: i expect large portions of lobbesbot actually salvageable ; spyked was making a lisp one too iirc.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929170 << abolished by peter I . what's ~it~ doing in unicode ? and if ~this~ is there, wainot also egyptian hiroglyphs ?

asciilifeform: or i suppose possible that these are in fact microshit 'wingdings', and the genuine q/r/etc are elsewhere in that talmud

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929178 << these btw are mutilated, as per mp's description, on erry terminal i have. evidently bakers of uniturd standard never bothered to open a maffs schoolbook...

asciilifeform: i'ma leave off with these, cuz erryone prolly already tossed their lunch ; but who has idea re others, welcome to throw in.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 11:30:55 lobbesbot: Logged on 2015-08-26 20:04:33: <mircea_popescu> "Or in my case, re-write a cooking book. So ladies and gentlorans, I give you Foxy’s Euloran Cookbook V1.1,"

lobbesbot: Logged on 2015-08-26 20:04:33: <mircea_popescu> "Or in my case, re-write a cooking book. So ladies and gentlorans, I give you Foxy’s Euloran Cookbook V1.1,"

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-15 21:23:52 asciilifeform: 'I mean literally, the guy's from Washitistan, they write things with their own excrement there, and the Unicode Foundation introduced actual excrement in the standard so now whenever someone asks for the networking code in your project they are delivered physical faeces on cardboard. About fifty eight acres of it. Where would you like this put, sir ?' (tm)(r)(mp)

asciilifeform: for all i know even supports http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-15#1928981 .

asciilifeform: phf: i see blank line in both client and log

asciilifeform: for some reason i thought he had multichan support, but apparently moved it wholesale to #a-test , lol

asciilifeform: on 2nd thought, i'ma do the swap nao, ~erryone seems to be asleep

asciilifeform: as i set it, lol

phf: well, correct hence "something else wrong", i've only verified what i already knew, that latin-1 decoded to "unicode" is otherwise indistinguishable from any other unicode, and can then be encoded to utf-8

phf: asciilifeform: that is something else wrong with your code, i've tested with some local python and it works as expected

asciilifeform: phf: the issue seems to be postgres , i.e. mine is set to utf8 , so anything that is to sit down in it gotta validly re-encode to utf8

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-16 09:52:44 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929071 << the interesting bit is that i got 0 barf when importing phf's log (i.e. including all of the historic uniturds seen in log in 'era 2')

phf: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929100 << particular utf-8 otherwise latin-1 trick also exists in cl-irc for example (i believe the python irc logger i looked at long time ago also had it), so log messages that a111 gets are already converted in this way.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-16#1929071 << the interesting bit is that i got 0 barf when importing phf's log (i.e. including all of the historic uniturds seen in log in 'era 2')

asciilifeform: (i.e. #asciilifeform-test bot happily eats 100% of the examples )

asciilifeform: i see 9 duds actually

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-15 22:21:36 asciilifeform: btw just as i thought, lobbes's searchtron fails if fed the liquishit in question.

mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-15#1928989 << i dun think there's any merit to getting unicode ~search~ going ; the specification of search in #13 implicitly exclues them. plainascii search is good enough.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-15 21:27:38 asciilifeform: unless someone supplies, in next coupla days, a simple AND WORKING pill, i'ma do this : anything coming into the bot that dun decode cleanly as utf8, will have the offending chars (i.e. any with 8th bit set) replaced with that glyph that depicts a steaming pile of shit.

mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-15#1928982 << there's nothing in principle wrong with this solution. there may be some practical concerns (ie, might want to get a working unicode set first) ; but other than that i don't see the advantage to having numbers-in-a-rectangle, for instance, in preference of a fixed turd.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 10:08:52 mircea_popescu: meanwhikle at cuntcamps, gut feelings are your guardian angel

mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-15#1928975 << well ok, but you could also just you know, run the unicode table through the system and see where the problems are and why, ie exactly what i've done above. not like it was some kind of high arcana or anything, neh, when confronted with unexpected behaviour run the whole class through see what hapens, rather than "try to divine a culprit" or "who do your [http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/

mp_en_viaje: for reference, i've also echoed the 48 lines through lynx-php-mysql ; they're visible php-yourbrowser at http://trilema.com/2019/trilema-goes-dark/#comment-130940 ; it croaks (as expected) on the first codepoint with no associated glyph (ln20).

mp_en_viaje: now that we're talking about this, i recall a similar (if more restrained) experiment with phf, maybe cca late 2017, and he went away and came back with a properly wroking logger a week or so later -- though i dunno that he ever wrote a blog article detailing the problem and its solution

mp_en_viaje: i originally thought one actually needs http://www.cp1252.com/ to illustrate the breakage (whence i copied the original lines missing from log above), however this is not actually so.

mp_en_viaje: anyway, supposedly i should be able to reproduce this, lessee. ×÷√

mp_en_viaje: you know i was at club last night, with the only two cunts anyone'd fuckl in the joint, and this moronic twentysomething (groomed beard, of course) sat next to me while one was off getting more drinks to explain to me what his needs were ?

lobbes: In either case, I'll be spending some time this evening working on genesis-ing my own current #e logotron. If anything just for posterity

lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-15#1928982 << I personally dun have any issue with this, but that is just me. Any yeah, not like someone down the line can't make a vpatch for a pill

asciilifeform: btw just as i thought, lobbes's searchtron fails if fed the liquishit in question.

asciilifeform: grudgingly i built in utf8 so that can say кто ты по жизни and τὰ γὰρ ὀψώνια τῆς ἁμαρτίας θάνατος etc. but , for all that has been said re utf8, it is at least supported by postgres . whereas i am not about to spend rest of life trying to write 'dwim ai' to eat erry possible microshit encoding that someone may have at whatever point excreted .

asciilifeform: unless someone supplies, in next coupla days, a simple AND WORKING pill, i'ma do this : anything coming into the bot that dun decode cleanly as utf8, will have the offending chars (i.e. any with 8th bit set) replaced with that glyph that depicts a steaming pile of shit.

asciilifeform: 'I mean literally, the guy's from Washitistan, they write things with their own excrement there, and the Unicode Foundation introduced actual excrement in the standard so now whenever someone asks for the networking code in your project they are delivered physical faeces on cardboard. About fifty eight acres of it. Where would you like this put, sir ?' (tm)(r)(mp)

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-14 07:42:01 phf: i even explain how to do it in python http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-21#1546421

asciilifeform: i picture would depend on where wounded

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-15 12:11:56 shrysr: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-08-15#1000191 That was a disgustingly fleshed out, but weirdly instructive story which made me laugh (a bit) and cringe (a lot). I'm not sure if I'll eat anything for awhile, but I get what you meant. That being said, - I can't think of any non-docker solution to a reproducible environment other than creating a 'frozen version', preferably under version

mp_en_viaje: i might end up discovering you cut too much, but what's the big deal, original still remains, can be easily fixed, and we learn thingsfor the money.

mp_en_viaje: billymg, works. amusingly enough, as far as i currently know that list is ~completr~. can use it to cut against!

billymg: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-14#1928713 << gave it a quick read, this should be enough for me to continue with writing the tests. i might have questions later as i make progress, will leave comments on the post if so

snsabot: Logged on 2017-02-18 22:54:14 asciilifeform: (iirc we had a thread where i described how corporate ameritards, if given a problem like phuctor, would happily soak up a few $mil and megawatt of iron)

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i distinctly recall that it in fact is 1 of those 'indian coad' wwws that randomly drops db commits

asciilifeform: and in so far as i know, reddit never made a lick of profit

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: 'oldcunt lobby' prolly Officially holds that gurlz 'peak' at 55. they can apply their standard, i can apply other.

mp_en_viaje: well, reddit couldn't have emptied at same time as it ~didn't exist back then. but still, they did their best and 2012ish or so i think it was ?

asciilifeform: hm i thought 'digg' mostly emptied out in the infamous 'decss incident'

asciilifeform: ah hm i suppose in ~that~ sense

asciilifeform: i guess possible, '"I s-s-said that they w-w-weren't hogs. They were s-sows", Slim managed to choke out, so overcome with fear that a thin stream of hot liquid diarreah began to dribble...'

mp_en_viaje: portrait is i'd guess decade old by now

asciilifeform: i take it portrait is modern , and not '91 ?

mp_en_viaje: "any blowjob $2" "why would i want to stick my cock in this ?" "$2!!!"

asciilifeform: i.e. lotta work for a ??? output ?

asciilifeform: if i understand correctly the ad-chumpatron , these 200 will be paid in 'coupon good to buy ads yourself' or other 'iou'

mp_en_viaje: nfi that i would. but potentially, as i said, to ban anyone who didn't post tits.

mp_en_viaje: to continue the keks : "PC Magazine reported that in December, Tumblr had an estimated 520 million visits, which dropped to 436 million in January and then 369 million in February." ; https://i.ibb.co/VL0Vmps/lulztumblr.png

BingoBoingo: Seriously. I suspect the fact you might have actually bought it if they solicited bids is why the details are undisclosed

asciilifeform: when unravelled -- plox to post, i will read. (and if find that actually fits into asciilifeform's head -- sign.)

asciilifeform: i vaguely suspected that phf's proggy exists as currently-unreproducible (i.e. not fully represented by the source) 'save-lisp-and-die' ball

phf: asciilifeform: well i gave you timeframe, it's easy for me to provide a few hints right now, significantly harder to unwrap a ball of yarn

asciilifeform: i genesised 5000ln+ of fucking asm!! last month. and scarcely expect that anyone will read, aside maybe from mp_en_viaje's gurlz as a punishment detail. but it has to be done.

asciilifeform: phf: at the risk of 'broken record', i gotta say that all of this would be 9000x moar helpful if existed as genesis , rather than asciilifeform to sit and derive from old logs and phf's summary, how was done.

asciilifeform: right, assumed that phf meant 'znc' in abstract, i.e. any proggy that logs straight to txt , rather than concretely znc

phf: also znc is incidental, i have a trivial flask (or maybe "bottle") server that parses znc logs and gives the result out in the log-format

phf: just one, this provided enough redundancy, but also allowed for a trivial merge algorithm. i suspect with multiple znc you'll have to work harder to discover consensus

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-14 13:14:01 asciilifeform: this horror aint even rare exception, but as i understand has happened to each logger to date when 1) bot fell 2) folx continued to speak 3) bot stood up . i'd like to devise a deterministic algo for wat-do in such cases, they will repeat for so long as we inhabit fleanode

phf: accommodate drift). the messages are then merged into the log (i.e. i find the overlap of known messages, and then add the missing messages). since both znc and a111 tend to be fairly stable, the combination of the two provided adequate coverage

phf: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-14#1928700 << in general this hasn't happened to a111 (though i don't have full netsplit coverage, since that requires a bot per all the possible servers we are connected to), i've described the solution in logs, though i can't find it now. when a111 falls over, on reconnect it asks the znc machine to give it all the messages since the timestamp of last known message (+3 hours to

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-14 13:45:17 mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, in principle, yes. historically i kept discouraging you personally from making logger because to my (admittedly -- naive) mind it was task perfectly suited to ambitious youth

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-14#1928760 << i still think, tbh, that it would be ideal for one such. but so far errybody broke teeth.

asciilifeform: i dun so much suffer from anxieties, but would like folx to know that currently asciilifeform built not proper wall, but the kind portrayed in mp_en_viaje's old ro piece where 'builder stands and holds up'

asciilifeform: i'ma fix the uni-idjicy found by lobbes ( and apparently described in log by phf 2+ y ago ) , and add the 'did i join or am i pissing into wind' detector discussed 2d ago, to bot

asciilifeform: unlike the gurlz, i dun need particularly anyone to 'feel for', but would like something resembling a sustainable algo.

mp_en_viaje: da fuck can we do. contrary to popular fiction, i dun have any reality-altering regalia.

mp_en_viaje: i feel you, man.

asciilifeform: what i also have, is long (and much backed up) queue of tmsr work that aint 'hand feed logger'

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: no, i get. but i dun have a squad of people who will immediately report ' asciilifeform broke leg, is in ditch ' . have 1, who is trained to report -- if doesn't simultaneously break leg/neck with asciilifeform .

asciilifeform: presently i suspect that even three dedicated folx, working in shifts, could not reliably 'meat gossipd' 100%

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-14 13:41:36 asciilifeform: i'd like to avoid the situation where ' asciilifeform fixed on best-effort basis, and 1 time breaks leg' and then like phf.

asciilifeform: i admit, i half-expected mp_en_viaje to pick up his skepter and declare 'this here is only working logger atm, and the breaking turd is a uniturd from bot, let errybody else lose the 6lines'

mp_en_viaje: i expect large portions of lobbesbot actually salvageable ; spyked was making a lisp one too iirc.

asciilifeform: i'ma fix the uniturdism in coming days. and diddle the log as described by mp_en_viaje . but when next net split, or bot eventually falls (no one afaik has yet written/hosted bot that did not fall at least erry 6wks ) we will have to revisit the wat-do

mp_en_viaje: i suspect this is so.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 11:27:26 asciilifeform: diana_coman: atm i'm somewhat curious whether the logotron is even reproducible

mp_en_viaje: i believe.

mp_en_viaje: i am hoping the cp1252 bs is the last of the nonsense.

mp_en_viaje: i believe.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'm not married to a particular set of junkyard wrecks out of what people to make loggers. but the solution has to be reasonably automatic, or e.g. asciilifeform for the rest of his days will be doing nuffin but munging db, and it ~still~ won't be satisfactorily correct

mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, in principle, yes. historically i kept discouraging you personally from making logger because to my (admittedly -- naive) mind it was task perfectly suited to ambitious youth

mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i mean deeper, like x going "hey y, why is your logger divergent from z's in k spot"

asciilifeform: which is why i put in raw-export, db dump (0 hrs / daily newyork time) etc

mp_en_viaje: if it were joyous i'd havejust done it, you know ?

asciilifeform: i'd like to avoid the situation where ' asciilifeform fixed on best-effort basis, and 1 time breaks leg' and then like phf.

mp_en_viaje: nor do i think that's what's desired.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'm not about to make argument 'eh i have drinking to do , rather than sync logs'. but if it takes fleanode 100msec to make a split, and asciilifeform -- 5min to fix it, this is not tenable to maintain promise of 'ultimate log'