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Duffer1: MP is balls deep in doge, only talks shit to get cheaper doge
Bugpowder: that is the magic doge number
Bugpowder: waiting for doge to hi 18
mircea_popescu: "holy shit, scam X started at y two months ago now it's at y times over nine thousand!!1" pretty much calls for "call me in two years"
mircea_popescu: good reason to ignore it, basically.
Bugpowder: wow. 100 master coins were minted per BTC during the kickstarter
Bugpowder: on my list of shit to do
Bugpowder: If only I didn't have science to worry about
mircea_popescu: i support teh model!
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder do the reading, publish the results, get peer reviewed.
Bugpowder: In general I support a development model where people buy-in to the coin via funding its development
ThickAsThieves: the best things are always made by contests
Bugpowder: sigh. OK I will do my reading…. tx
Duffer1: "we recently raised nearly 5000 BTC to build a new protocol layer on top of bitcoin."
Duffer1: r/mastercoin i can sub to be a mastermind
ThickAsThieves: plus, who wants to use something called mastercoin
mircea_popescu: i dunno that such a write-up exists
BingoBoingo: Bugpowder: Basically mastercoin is this colored coins idea but the developer found a way to try colored coins that involved "Send me your coins and I will make this thing"
Bugpowder: I don't know. I'm totally out of the loop on it. What do you think?
BingoBoingo: Bugpowder: Was there ever a good discussion of mastercoin that ended up supposing benefits, valuation potention, or some combination of both in the end?
Bugpowder: Anyone have a link to a good discussion of master coin benefits and valuation potential?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the "let's mock retards department", http://trilema.com/2013/queers/
mircea_popescu: i think we're way past probing
BingoBoingo: I wonder what ways Bitcoin will be probed in 2014. Bigger DDoS attacks? BitBet being defaced? The IRS accepting pankkake's altcoin?
mircea_popescu: i know someone who redirected his domains to the whitehouse when someone else was trying to ddos him
BingoBoingo: Because the point of collecting the reports is for the juicy dump of data about how a machine is configured. The right way would probably be spamming legit looking reports suggesting people are running WIndows 8.1 on PDP-11s, Vaxen, and other ancient systems
BingoBoingo: The mindset that leads people to think spamming could be a profitable venture would probably be the sort that could lead someone to think spamming the NSA into thinking "user won Darwin Award" is the most common means by which a Windows system fails
BingoBoingo: Maybe this guy will do it http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/12/28/233200/convicted-spammer-jeffrey-kilbride-flees-prison
mircea_popescu: it all sounds like good fun to the average botnet master i'm sure.
BingoBoingo: Under other circumstances it might lead to the NSA extending some sort of job offer.
BingoBoingo: Or some agent could say fuck it and activate the mechanisms leading towards extraordinary rendition to a blacksite and use of Datskovskiy’s soldering iron. Hard to tell what the rogue state will do.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe? Possibly troll him back. Such an effort might be a heroic waste of NSA and MS time.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what exactly are they going to do ? arrest the guy for being an asshole ?
Duffer1: ya probably not the smartest thing to do
BingoBoingo: One of those "You don't have to outrun the bear..." cases, except running into the bear's open arms
BingoBoingo: Duffer1: I imagine repurposing a botnet to spam fake, trollish Windows crash reports might be something some sort of activist could be motivated to do if they had a strong desire of being found.
Duffer1: i wonder if there's a way to edit windows crash reports, send ms and nsa troll reports instead
mircea_popescu: yeah. it has little to do with the english summary, but hey
Duffer1: have you read the der spiegel piece?
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pankkake: there was that funny comic about it
Gotchawallet: i'm under that impression yeah.
BingoBoingo: Gotchawallet: Well, some people really just want to get mugged
pankkake: it's all in the referal system
KRS|Gotyawallet: at least cex.io isn't a scam, its just a straight up rip-off. Never made sense of their pricing in terms of roi..I must hav been doing something wrong because they still have customers.
Duffer1: labcoin pulled a lot of shit, but they didn't even try to develop something
kakobrekla: "too far" varies too much.
KRS|Gotyawallet: but i wouldn't take it too far and be greedy
KRS|Gotyawallet: someone would have to convince me pretty hard not to
BingoBoingo: Pretty sure Labcoin did this. BFL managed to do this several times. Avalon did this when they mined on customer rigs before shipping them.
BingoBoingo: These last minute "pre-shipping" announcements seem more like fishing for a last few suckers than anything helpful to people who would have already "Pre-ordered"
pankkake: the twitter account has more
Duffer1: ya they're all mockups so far, it'll be interesting to see if they can do what they say
twizt: like the bullshit product mockups u can buy from fiverr
twizt: of the 'chip'
twizt: all those pics look like renders
jborkl: The ecosystem was just smaller to feed on then
jborkl: Well Avalon, BFL, basic all said the same basic stuff.
Duffer1: they announced a few days ago they'll start shipping first batch by dec 31, it would take bfl levels of gall to say that and not actually be ready
jborkl: In the next 30 days or more
jborkl: I do not believe they will ship , but that is me. I have seen this story too many times now
jborkl: Well, they have not shipped and now reached the drop dead refund date. The thread is interesting to keep up with but it appears the same as the Tom
benkay: "just reorganize all the content all the time!"
benkay: "who cares about where the actual fuck the viewport is pointed?!"
benkay: i like their approach to the DOM
benkay: do tell.
Duffer1: from english to romanian with errors :)
Tykling: oh, wait, I may have misread - I thought you meant phishing type mails
mircea_popescu: why da fuck do these people do this.
mircea_popescu: jesus i get all these season's greetings emails from romanians that are written in english and full of errors.
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benkay: or any touchscreen
Duffer1: don't give them internet, it's the devils tool, corrupt their impressionable minds
mircea_popescu: i got them all collars and stuff
kakobrekla: mebbe they havent gptten rid of real life yet
mircea_popescu: though i suppose the other 140 ppl are too drunk to type...
benkay: sounds like the xilinx tools are designed to implement a certain set of routines in silicon but the silicon itself can't change the implemented routines until you bake the configuration of the fpga into the fpga itself. am i close?
asciilifeform: interestingly, xilinx and other vendors used to publish their internals, but that stopped in the mid-90s when they moved to a 'rent our code' business model
asciilifeform: likewise, and even more elementary: can't make a self-reconfiguring xilinx (or other fpga based) system without x86/unix in the loop unless you can ditch the vendor's toolchain
asciilifeform: benkay: can't make a self-reconfiguring Xilinx without knowing the exact bitstream format and internal layout.
benkay: asciilifeform: why do you need to reverse the xilinx toolchain? ☟︎
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KRS|Gotyawallet: Order confirmed. He has doge coin available through his brokerage too.
VanCleef: i'll take 1 million shares plz
KRS|Gotyawallet: sure there is..everyone's got IPO's in the works..so does my neighbor's dog
VanCleef: nothing to invest in
VanCleef: i dont get why this room still exists
VanCleef: someone get india and china on the phone and tell them to flush this crap
KRS|Gotyawallet: quick, where's the red phone
VanCleef: mpex tanking, abort abort
pankkake: yes, even saw the journalist coming here, it was… painful
KRS|Gotyawallet: Did you see the article finance.fortune.cnn.com did on mpex and coins.br
KRS|Gotyawallet: pankkake ya got that one, great news isnt it
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Duffer1: "Looking for a reason to give up on humanity? Study climate change. That shit isn't changing back."
assbot: !bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b}
assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu sure, works for me.
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