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trinque: speaking of good days, I received a shipment of 6 boxen for new payment related adventures today.
trinque: thus dawns a new day, I tell ye
a111: Logged on 2016-10-31 15:12 mircea_popescu: very weird, the list of nonsense these people sprout. it's as if they have 0 reflexive capacity whatsoever, how am i supposed to distinguish google "ai" from some douche who spits out " Your style of just summarily shitting on how the author wrote this piece adds no value to the discussion." ?
trinque: I don't fault him for his deep confusion; he's a born slave and has no one telling him what to do.
trinque: Afraid that I'll be perceived as anti feminist << yes, deprived of the dulap.
mats: >I do not feel anger toward my assailant, for I see him most as a product of an unjust world. A product of an upbringing marked by war and deprivation.
asciilifeform: '“While demeaning, insulting, and ridiculing minorities, immigrants, and the physically/mentally disabled worked for Mr. Trump, I want to be clear that this behavior -- and these views -- have no place at Grubhub,” Maloney explained. Adding, if it were up to him, Trump would have been fired a long time ago. "Had he worked here, many of his comments would have resulted in his immediate termination.”'
mircea_popescu: i thought education was free.
mircea_popescu: when i was a kid, not going to public school was pretty much a public admission of mental retardation. "oh, poor ionescus, their kid has to go to that fingerpainting no grades private thing."
ben_vulpes: and pray tell what drugs would i need kids help procuring?
ben_vulpes: i have never done drugs
ben_vulpes: "45% tax rate and i can't even discuss putting my kid in a public school with a straight face"
mircea_popescu: huge fcuking schnautz. i mean immense.
mircea_popescu: (/me once said at party, to obvious female dressed as female etc, "i bet you have a huge schlong". everyone burst out laughing and she... well... left.)
asciilifeform: i heard that yours put mine to shame
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: didja watch the circus i filmed ? got similar one in ben_vulpeslandia ?
asciilifeform: people come factory-standard with this penny in the fuse socket, 'i KNOW how...'
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 00:20 mircea_popescu: the inuitive approach (oh ~obviously~ i know what a string is, just like when anne sexton writes in her spiral notebook amirite ?) utterly fails ; and even in the hands of very subtle thinkers it can explode loudly - witness the many day disagreement with alf over the matter of utf/ansi, which unearthed disputes all the way to the greek ikonoclasm and the fundaments of literacy/alphabet.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1565826 << almost any quasi-serious learning is about throwing nonsense out of one's head re 'i KNOW HOW IT WORX', whether 'i know how digestion works', 'money', 'arithmetic' ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'drakon' is best illustration i've seen yet for mircea_popescu's 'graphics are for tards' thing
ben_vulpes: and the tpp too i hope!
mircea_popescu: i didn't make it that far, shipwrecked over the eat hamburger thing
asciilifeform: even 'labview', cosmetically similar, i can see how wins, it shortens 'ooda loop' to ~0 because the circuits can be tested in 'real time' with wysywyg blinkenlights. but this -- i've nfi.
asciilifeform: but to go upstack --- i see, e.g., this, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Quicksort_DRAKON.png , and have nfi how the thing wins.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> it's vaguely regrettable no one with an old dogde pick-up ran. then he could have driven it all the way over to the wh and park it on the lawn. << Naturally because I'd be replaceing the lawn with better grass. Make Grass Green Again!
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/11/10/socially-responsible-investing-or-how-i-told-you-so-doesnt-pay-the-bills/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - “Socially Responsible Investing”, or how I told you so doesn’t pay the bills.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i'm just messin'.
mircea_popescu: oh the flowchart thing. i suspected it's what phf made the v charts with :p
mircea_popescu: the inuitive approach (oh ~obviously~ i know what a string is, just like when anne sexton writes in her spiral notebook amirite ?) utterly fails ; and even in the hands of very subtle thinkers it can explode loudly - witness the many day disagreement with alf over the matter of utf/ansi, which unearthed disputes all the way to the greek ikonoclasm and the fundaments of literacy/alphabet. ☟︎
trinque: jurov: I would've stayed in the school that taught those.
trinque: ftr I am a college dropout, and it turns out books from the 80s can still be had.
jurov: pete_dushenski: i have my doubts about that framework
pete_dushenski: jurov: ya not saying formal education is the be all and end all, far from it (hell, i'm even reluctant to register 'resp' for chiltin), just that, if done well, it can provide a framework for further learning. otherwise its markov chains with no grounding.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-10 23:56 pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-21#1546426 << for your entomological pleasure, this is an example of an elementary cs discussion that intrigues me and i ~want~ to understand yet requires afaics zero math. the logs abound with other examples of 'this language does this but not that and is therefore better suited for the other thing' that i (perhaps naively) deem valuable despite not having a ready application
jurov: pete_dushenski: i have soi-dissant master degree in cs, but actually learned everything important outside of school by tinkering and reading
pete_dushenski: anyways, phf's line is but one example. the corpse that was my 'trb history' should serve as the only proof required that i have deeply nfi which way is up in the cs field and that is has ~zero to do with maths.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-21#1546426 << for your entomological pleasure, this is an example of an elementary cs discussion that intrigues me and i ~want~ to understand yet requires afaics zero math. the logs abound with other examples of 'this language does this but not that and is therefore better suited for the other thing' that i (perhaps naively) deem valuable despite not having a ready application ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i'm aware that technically it would qualify as olympiad subject matter for that reason ; but still.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i meant, very few threads used maths above basic algebra to follow
asciilifeform: lel i'm in a diner and there's a screen showing continued protest derpage
pete_dushenski: i dun think i went to cs elementary yet
pete_dushenski: the shit ?! i went to french immersion not cs immersion!!!1
a111: Logged on 2016-11-10 22:54 pete_dushenski: i'm a bit far behind to be a total cs head anyways, just trying to keep up with some of the convos.
asciilifeform: lol i recall that one, it was one of the smoke bombs he threw to make readers think he were a chick
mircea_popescu: i am totally lost in a sea of tlp again, send help
mircea_popescu: "Of course I'm not happy about this, I like smart people, but that's the new reality. There was a time where women went to college to get an MRS degree, and I am telling you that that time is today, there is nothing else of value in there. Sure, some college women go on to become doctors and CEOs, and some go on to become child pornographers and Salon writers, none of those things have anything to do with what happened in c
pete_dushenski: as to scary things, i can see it. and believe it or not i'm doing just this on meatspace projects. just have to kill a few dragons to get to the (republican) princess.
pete_dushenski: i'm a bit far behind to be a total cs head anyways, just trying to keep up with some of the convos. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: if not indefinitely so. lastly, if i had who else to emulate, i... would. but taleb's a bit of a hermit and i have nfi who else (alive) that leaves.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: ya, i can take it easy on the barfbombs. am also taking ug cs course to fill in the holes in my education. not likely to lisp anytime this decade but working towards being a more useful citizen of the republic. bbet seemed like potential avenue. your ancient suggestion to serve as marketing agent for tmsr-related entities isn't forgotten but meatwot obligations currently prevent its pursuit,
Framedragger: ikr. that's what it did to me when i had to debug it. ugh
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ya i figured.. i mean, it's a pile o' nothing, can't argue with that.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-10 20:28 asciilifeform: peter I ~did~ build a ship at some point. (but it is not for what he is remembered..)
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-10#1565725 << I thought this was a reply to me, was so confused for a minute ☝︎
Framedragger: i remember having to debug frontend code (which i wasn't supposed to touch in the first place), looked at JS exceptions, didn't make any sense, until realized that it was "compiled from coffeescript". asked "lead frontend engineer" how do i debug, he said he'll check and sort it himself, "it's not really debuggable". OK.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i'm with the "Shouldn't even be counted" side.
Framedragger: (I worked on the original versions of JScript at Microsoft from 1996 through 2001.) The by-design purpose of JavaScript was to make the monkey dance when you moused over it. Scripts were often a single line. We considered ten line scripts to be pretty normal, hundred line scripts to be huge, and thousand line scripts were unheard of.
asciilifeform: lel, i apparently -- also.
mircea_popescu: i remember him for it.
asciilifeform: peter I ~did~ build a ship at some point. (but it is not for what he is remembered..) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: as per usual, when i talk of something it's not "undoable", whatever it may look like.
mircea_popescu: ie, declare usg impotent and act accordingly. "oh, they'll shut you down" "whatever, i'll open another".
mircea_popescu: i said ignore it.
asciilifeform: at any rate, i'd like to see 'tmsr isp' just as much as anyone. but the lack of berserkers willing to subsist on crumbs for ~0 ev, doing largely ~uninteresting and difficult chore, solely in the name of tmsr, is not mega-puzzle.
mircea_popescu: mine happens to be at "i'll have house and isp and other things too."
mircea_popescu: so then. your arbitrary line is at "i will have house but not isp". his line is at "i will not have house or isp".
asciilifeform: isp -- interesting. unless i vastly misunderstand what mircea_popescu meant by 'isp'.
asciilifeform: because as i understand subj, this circle ain't squarable.
asciilifeform: to again revisit upstack, i would like to hear what mircea_popescu pictures would be a 'tmsr isp' .
mircea_popescu: i was not impressed with anything quote so much that year.
asciilifeform: was quite same in, say, germany, last i was there
asciilifeform: re the trains, i also recall reading of a similar dissatisfaction with 'modern' (sealed cabin) airplane, vs classic one
asciilifeform: i do recall this being a prblem with that italian dude
mircea_popescu: i very much doubt average taxpayer could distinguish samples from actual outrageous abuse. which obviously in terms of artform is a compliment ; but in practical terms it's ever so dangerous.
mircea_popescu: understand, up until that point he was periodically raided and the charges hung the jury / got dismissed. i use the 2005 govt raid / 2007 indictment to date the end of the vhs america in the practical sense - it went from larry flynt being the hero to paul little being the heel.
mircea_popescu: i also imagine the girls are still paying him visits, incredibly enough i guess he was actually well liked by the talent (unlike much more "upstanding" producers for instance)
mircea_popescu: old man, i imagine what all other old men do.
asciilifeform: they wanted, i guess, the kulak's hoard.
mircea_popescu: trinque i had soldier isp back in the porn days (when it was "unacceptable" to the squares, but little going to jail over fucking girls in girly make-up to vomit was unthinkable).
asciilifeform: i.e. glued to the fiatdom(s) in which it physically runs.
asciilifeform: revisiting upstack , isp in the traditional sense, as i understand it , is 'castle'
mircea_popescu: uh. so i should punish random derp for ... living in where ? and if he wants to move i tell him to go where ?
PeterL: from comments on link I posted a minute ago: "Any college receiving public funding - what college doesen't?- should have their funding immediately frozen if they don't take an immediate, corrective action." < seems commenters have the same idea as mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: nono. let's go through this story because the republic's failure to create an isp is one of the largest stains on its cheek, so i'm sure the discussion will be instructive.
asciilifeform: you might read mircea_popescu's piece and think 'aaah he never said how this ended, i am safe in my idiocy'
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure i agree even with that much.
asciilifeform: i suppose -- not.
mircea_popescu: does it appear to you i'm in any kind of short supply ?
asciilifeform: this we learn in kindergarten, yes, but i somehow pictured that mircea_popescu wanted to make a spectacle .
mircea_popescu: i say it, it's mandatory for them. nobody cares if they like it or not, or understand it or not. wtf is this, lalaland ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose it was ok for the reddit hordes to not read that. because why ? and i suppose it was acceptable for college kids to NOT LEARN IT. since when is self-directed education a thing ? and why would it be ?
mircea_popescu: to quote 2015 : http://trilema.com/2015/on-how-i-ended-up-suing-phoenix-nap-llc-on-how-ira-r-cadwells-mom-stephanies-going-to-lose-her-chula-vista-home-on-how-marcus-bohn-is-going-to-catch-a-lot-of-shit-for-that-on-assorted-othe/#selection-193.627-217.246
asciilifeform: i dunno that there exist on planet3 'innocent barbarian'
mircea_popescu: i have no use for americana, yes. but the only way 3rd world shitholes can become even vaguely digestibles is throuigh a lot of americana.
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure this would help. i have a huge helping of "innocent barbarians" right here, and the obvious solution is for them to... first eat up 50 years of hollywood then we'll talk.
mircea_popescu: i actually have no problem fucking libertard.
mircea_popescu: god how i'd cancel their funding.
mircea_popescu: i guess it could be thus reduced.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the discussion there wasn't "i'd rather" but "i prefer". which things also aren't equal. i rather all sorts of things i don't prefer all the time, it's the key to sanity and male reproductive health.
asciilifeform: i also dun own a working time machine, but have very definite preferences of where to go in it, i suppose i must be idiot