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ThickAsThieves: After all the reddit scare, I wonder if the pool simply set up a way to anonymize some of its hashing
mircea_popescu: Neil that gaming theory has the barb that it workls in reality, not in people's imagination. there's a huge premium on pissing off the right crowd of people.
Neil: Yeah this is about $1.3m now. Insane.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the #1 reason noobs are still being scammed blind is the fact that idiots run arround making false scammer claims all teh time
Neil: ThickAsThieves: It's still game theory; they'd lose if they piss too many players off. More incentive to be nice I think.
mircea_popescu: i find it fitting that the first comment on the largest prop bet in the history of bitcoin is "beware of this scammy website"
ThickAsThieves: do they play nice with all the other ops?
Neil: Not that long; I was watching it. Perhaps 12.
ThickAsThieves: back then, all the pool ops worked together
ThickAsThieves: btcusd would go to 135 again
mircea_popescu: if there's a 2 day fork say the no people will make out like bandits.
ThickAsThieves: basically betting that there's a fork or something
mircea_popescu: this does not equate to 50:1, not really.
mircea_popescu: so basically you can either risk 1 btc for 7 cents on one side, or risk 1 btc for 4 btc on the other side
Neil: I think the only one profiting from this bet is bitbet
ThickAsThieves: even now you can throw 50 btc at it and get 3.5btc, but of course that will turn to .35 btc by the time the bet is over
mircea_popescu: so the window was ample back when the bet was made.
mircea_popescu: and let me point out to you that originally nobody thought there's a chance in hell it reaches 2bn by feb.
mircea_popescu: Neil i think our 50:1 bs is misstating the point. a guy betting no only gets 4x his btc
Neil: These difficulty bets should have a slightly larger window of closing to resolution than 5 days IMO. It tends to be too obvious then. At least a full cycle (10-12 days) should be the gap.
mircea_popescu: you've not earnd till it pays out
Neil: Satoshi was quite forward-thinking; clearly saw the possibility of such high difficulties given the FP-like format "bits" is encoded as
ThickAsThieves: weight drops too slowly :(
ThickAsThieves: the Yes bets keep piling up, taking all my hard-earned bettings
Neil: Well, baggsied that as a new proposition, and funded it :)
mircea_popescu: at the rate it's going...
Neil: I wonder if we make 1 exahash/sec this year.
Neil: It's amazing the 25% replacement rate continues.
Neil: I track it in a s/s of my own; do my own thing :)
mircea_popescu: but hash rate is "how many times per second did we fail to solve a specified problem"
mircea_popescu: instantaneous hash rate is a myth tho
mircea_popescu: if real odds are 30 and the site shows 50 you're more likely to see people piling on the heavy side i think
mircea_popescu: in general people seem to be more like fishing for "the sure thing" than acting strategically.
Neil: No-one seems willing to bet no yet... so probably higher to go
Neil: I reckon these companies are creating and mining for the house
Neil: I have to agree it's looking very likely
Neil: mircea_popescu: More like 50-to-1 I think.
mircea_popescu: b0n1 currently the money is about 30:1 that difficulty will be over 2bn this month.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell benkay well, in the meta sense that setting what and how much clothing chicks wear in your town counts as natality allocation.
b0n1: maybe 25% is a bit too much to assume but anyway, its totally risky
pankkake: glad to save you some btc :p
b0n1: with this perspective, the offer doesnt look that attractive anymore
ozbot: Estimate of ASIC pre-orders: 13 to 15 PH/s (diff 1.8B to 2.1B) by end of 2013
b0n1: how many hashes to deliver?
pankkake: hashfast was supposed to deliver months ago; many preorders
pankkake: cointerra is supposed to delivery a big january batch
b0n1: pankkake dont the new fast asic chips with 2 TH for roughly 6k USD only come about may?
b0n1: is there any big asic shipments coming up or any other reasons to cause unusually increases of the difficulty
b0n1: https://cloudhashing.com/contracts do you think this is a profitable offer if they offer a bonus of 300 gh fro platinum membership at the enf of january?
twizt: all these fake gains in equities
ozbot: Time Warner Cable Loses Another 215,000 TV Viewers | DSLReports, ISP Information
twizt: man i dont understand how timewarner cable stock is so high
BingoBoingo: Just remembet I take a break as soon as hockey coems on
truffles: ive got white collar on the side so im preped
BingoBoingo: I submitted a move though
BingoBoingo: truffles: Imma be offline soon for the weekend.
BingoBoingo: I wish truffles
BingoBoingo: Just a reminder. I have court Thursday so if I go missing for a month Occam's razor suggests my location would e the St Clair County Jail.
benkay: does the setting of interest rates by the US Fed count as 'capital allocation'?
KRS1: i plug the tcpip cable into
KRS1: you know the tcpip ethernetwork bitcoin network thing
pankkake: oh, I ignored because .pdf. yeah, ok, that clears it up
benkay: the question is what the pointy headed ones in the usg mean by the bitcoin network, pankkake.
bob___: ask the congressional research service (benkay's previous link)
bob___: benkay: I like this line "Inflation could also occur if the Bitcoin network develops fractional reserve banking"
ThickAsThieves: "the Fed’s ability to conduct monetary policy rests on its ability to increase or decrease the reserves of the banking system through open market operations."
ThickAsThieves: "At Bitcoin’s current scale of use, it is likely too small to significantly affect the Fed’s ability to conduct monetary policy. However, if the scale of use were to grow substantially larger, there could be reason for some concern."
ozbot: New Report Details Bitcoin's Potential Threat to the Federal Reserve – Bitcoin Magazine
Namworld: Where are the participants...
Namworld: Chess tournament...
Duffer1: we clearly need more assholes in this space
nubbins`: i wonder how long until this guy discovers btc
ozbot: Out of the mud, on to the beer expo - Local - The Telegram
asciilifeform: benkay: this fellow isn't the first to build 'laptop', and won't be the last
BingoBoingo: Chemical is not toxic, but can be harmful if swallowed http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/01/10/west_virginia_chemical_spill_leaves_thousands_of_west_virginians_without.html
pankkake: I couldn't care less about thickness
ozbot: Playing for sheep stations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Vexual: yeah he went to live in a tent with his whenches
mircea_popescu: was that bet in any way pussy-related ?
Vexual: probly wasnt everything he had tho
jurov: Mhm, in old hungary there was someone who lost a castle in a bet...but no ide how much is that worth in todays money
mircea_popescu: the ~1500 bfl march bet is still a record in nominal terms
BingoBoingo: *find that information
mircea_popescu: by 2020 these will be the biggesgt bets ever anyway
ThickAsThieves: and that should be the bet
ThickAsThieves: bitbet needs a bet that it will have the biggest bet ever
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 913.631, Best ask: 923.358, Bid-ask spread: 9.72700, Last trade: 913.631, 24 hour volume: 7176.93808471, 24 hour low: 873.5, 24 hour high: 943.0, 24 hour vwap: 917.15255
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'll have to look around to fund that information.
mircea_popescu: this'd be a 30:1 then
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what's the record for the largest bet in vegas ?
Vexual: we don't even know if that cypher is cracked yet...
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 1724845769.51 based on data since last change | 2001616333.84 based on data for last three days
Vexual: can we get the other pages?
nubbins`: wouldn't mind one of those silver rounds, altho the two descriptions can't even agree on the purity
nubbins`: looks like some kind of "zany news" subsection tho
asciilifeform: (saw this many years ago)
nubbins`: well sure, but i didn't expect el reg to be so vulgar
mircea_popescu: well if you pork her... it stands to reason your porker goes in her pork holster.
asciilifeform: 'port holster' sounds like something you could spread as a rumour to start another 'Sepoy Rebellion.'
nubbins`: that's up there with "salmon canyon" and "ham wallet"