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Framedragger: mircea_popescu: you said you generally like dns transport, but just fyi it afaik limits udp packets to 512 bytes (which iirc you hate). but i guess the term is something more like "tolerate", not "like"...
Framedragger: when i was hitch hiking in albania a few years back, i ate lotsa watermelons. because 1) they were awesome there, and 2) it was middle of summer, hot, so lower food intake overall
asciilifeform: i'd be curious to learn whatthefuck exactly is 'seclab', the site suggests some eldritch horror from the bowels of eu academia
asciilifeform: given as the key does not appear to have publicly signed anything, at least in so far as i can see with naked eye, there is no physical way to distinguish this find from an elaborate troll
mircea_popescu: i suppose it'd actually be better form to not publicize it so soon huh.
asciilifeform: i will add that the thing does not appear to reside on sks, though other items advertised as 'seclab' -- are
mircea_popescu: i think ima actually write a short qntra re this, thinking about it.
asciilifeform: (does not appear to be of any special form, in so far as i can presently tell, but is in fact prime by every test i've tried)
mircea_popescu: well it's what i meant.
mircea_popescu: i'm betting it'll be something stupid.
Framedragger: lean and clean. i may just try that. i understand the need more and more.
mircea_popescu: and i also keep it a few dozen lines, so there is that.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger yes, i add names manually. i see jackshit flying around lol.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i'm curious, do you currently manually add entries to your hosts file? wireshark shows so much gunk flying around. like, i've got ad blockers and everything, but still lotsa facebook dns requests all around, etc.
Framedragger: what is nice is that the dns transport itself is quite elegant - questions/answers - one packet for query, another for answer. so transport is (in principle) compatible with session-less gossipd model, i think.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: you'd still want r-dns to be able to serve existing dns clients though, right? i mean, things like `nslookup`, dns resolution libraries, etc - the current dns protocol? or no?
mircea_popescu: shows you the power of bias / mental fixation i guess ?
Framedragger: up until this point i thought that the idea would be to use an existing dns server, for sake of ease
mircea_popescu: and here i thought i said just that
Framedragger: i wonder if a simpler key-value store wouldn't work as a replacement for dns server. "flatten" the whole thing, so that, as you say, dns server wouldn't distinguish between types of substrings. the latter would be up to the client, if it willed to do so.
mircea_popescu: yeah, what can i tell you, as ingenious as walk. 10s of ks of years old.
Framedragger: rather ingenious if i may say so!
Framedragger: okay, i'm less confused now
Framedragger: yes indeed; and now i see that maybe there wouldn't be too much of a redundancy there - that is, when gossipd arrives, dns server could still accept pgprams, they'd simply come via gossipd - and the latter may even sit behind an abstracted network interface, etc.
Framedragger: and, i suppose, republican dns server could work in a way that already facilitates session-less communication - pgprams issuing orders to change zone files, etc.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: my excuse is, i don't feel like i have enough original content to keep spamming your comments box. what can i say. such self esteem
Framedragger: and maybe it's worth to focus on gossipd first. but i see what you're saying regarding these two things being parallel. i guess.
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose, but that part wouldn't be the first to relate. the part that'd first to relate is that you gotta talk to these servers to admin your strings. and well... talk over... what.
Framedragger: to an extent, i would say, no? in gossipd, user would have their own "hosts" file, mapping mircea_popescu to $fingerprint or w/e
Framedragger: there is a nuance: if lotsa customization is needed, perhaps time/energy is better spent on gossipd. a logistical question i guess.
Framedragger: hmm. i'm still not sure if your scheme does not require additional customization of dns server software (bind/unbound/whatever). i mean, if it does, so be it.
Framedragger: delegate = "i don't know about this, but this guy does. ask him"
Framedragger: (i mean, there could be caching servers, but they'd have to have the same up to date map of all strings to IPs.)
a111: Logged on 2016-11-14 09:34 Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-13#1566874 << re. republican dns root (i think this term is not ambiguous), as far as i can see, if bob owned .whatever TLD and john owned john.whatever SLD, then queries for john.whatever would still "pass" through bob's .whatever zone file.
Framedragger: ben_vulpes battling it out in #opennic, i see!
Framedragger: "His "reactor" ended when the EPA declared his backyard as a Superfund cleanup site due to hazardous levels of radiation." oh yeah i remember reading about that! hm. so, radiation kills, then. RIP boy scout.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-13#1566874 << re. republican dns root (i think this term is not ambiguous), as far as i can see, if bob owned .whatever TLD and john owned john.whatever SLD, then queries for john.whatever would still "pass" through bob's .whatever zone file. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: i eyeballed quite wrongly, this is a 4096b key.
mircea_popescu: this ted danson is just about ready to go the way of the other, practically out of the 18 month best-by date. or am i confusing the very famous with that britney durham chick whatever her name was ? the white trash "singer" / newswoman whatever ?
BingoBoingo: I remember that day.
Framedragger: (and unrelated comic, https://i.redd.it/uhizdry01fxx.png )
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-13#1566897 << nice. phucted simply by sharing a known-to-phuctor factor. on cursory glance appears to be in use - and from known uni - and i like the s3cur3 email of seclab at airgapped.sec.t-labs.tu-berlin.de !1 ☝︎
mats: i tried to click through to details, no luck
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz of a strictly for-expert-entomologists nature, this "opposite of sex" movie is the epitome of jew fantasy land. the whole thing is driven by women, of the irresponsible and mercenary "it's my sweet body and i'll smoke if i want to" (christina ricci) type vs utter unbelievable nag who thinks herself in charge (lisa kudrow). the men are at best ineffectual and spineless (the policeman) or otherwise utterly dum
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no i just meant, why write to them/qntra etc, it's in the log, good enough.
mircea_popescu: i guess.
Framedragger: (covered by me, that is, i.e. i'm a bit..behind)
Framedragger: i was just looking at IDN TLDs. myeah, a bit of clusterfuck
mircea_popescu: i don't, however, see any future for utf domain names.
Framedragger: apart from the lulz, the point would be, i suppose, that there should be no reason to disallow for that. assuming registering party is in good standing within WoT; and if there were an actual .lemonparty on current reptilian dns, they'd better cough up a pgp sig.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: apologies if you deem this masturbatory at this point, but one more curious q re. jurisdictional matters for dns - just interested what you think - so would the republican dns allow registration of any arbitrary TLDs (.cocks etc)? i assume there is no reason not to allow for that?
ben_vulpes: now i'm getting pms to determine if i'm a furry
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : https://archive.is/am4m2 coming from the future (i think nov 21st is still next week right ?) one Amy Davidson makes exactly the argument for tmsr, just somehow insanely applied to the progre party. "The more interesting question is how people in political life approach what they may regard as a duty to serve their country, whoever the President may be, while preserving their dignity and their decency. This in
ben_vulpes: i have my work of * cut out for me, yo
mircea_popescu: i guess you have your work of edumancation the masses cut out for you.
mircea_popescu: anyway, "we've decided not to leak anything so please give a shit". i... don't give a shit.
mircea_popescu: i think it's just badly set up, i don't see it either.
asciilifeform: (i.e. the 'glass cannon' saved for the 'end times')
mircea_popescu: i am not concerned with the pretense of fiat orgs, not even so much as to regard a supposed "continuity" as relevant.
asciilifeform: i suspect that the most interesting 'fault lines' might be the ~existing~ 'mail room clerks with key'
asciilifeform: 'shall be delivered' is imho best possible illustration of what i spoke of here.
asciilifeform: i'm still not sold on the concept of a pgp key in multiple pockets being any different an affair from old fiatola reich control.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure it'll open. consider : even someone from thje fucking mailroom could have the sense to make the damned key. then in six months to a year and a half when they have desperate board meetings over "nobody could have predicted ; wut do" he waltzes in, gives them the key, becomes "vp for not being dumb"
asciilifeform: so -- it'd be a lie, if some d00d, even the resurrected corpse of jobs, etc., showed up with key and said 'i am apple'
asciilifeform: now i have nfi how much of the 'super' industry is geared for jet fighter, and how much - for plastic pumpkins and ipnohe.
asciilifeform: i do not expect to personally live to verify this guess, but i suspect that the chinese will remember the 1980-20xx period as something akin to the opium wars
asciilifeform: maybe - stockpile of virgin unicorn tears. for all i know.
asciilifeform: i for one have nfi what usa has to offer other than promises.
mircea_popescu: i'm in no great position to judge china's actual exposure, esp because they're so manically secretive. i dun expect you're in any better.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i'd imagine making any changes to domain records to be a matter of sending a pgpgram, like you said and like mpex works.
Framedragger: aha. i see what you mean.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger note that i don't particularly see the value in restrictioning anything. in principle anyone should be able to register a domain for his bitcent - even if he puts no gpg key in there. he just won't be able to admin it, big whoop./ ☟︎
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: re. dns which serves the republicans, and thinking along those lines ("are you in good standing to even register a name?"), fair enough if you'd prefer to have someone else than me do the republican dns thing. (i'd be interested, and would be good education, but then, republican efforts != educational charity). :)
mircea_popescu: consider the case of a very hot chick. the... churly, impotent approach is to go "she's a slut, i don't give a shit about her" like that, off the top.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: re. dorks registering trilema, gotcha. i wasn't sure how "human-neutral" you imagined the system to be (I wasn't thinking of anything along the crazy lines of "no humans needed" ethereum, note).
asciilifeform: i still do not fully grasp the intricate chumpatron that is chinese trade with usa
mircea_popescu: and in other news, https://i.chzbgr.com/full/4217018880/h922FA687/
mircea_popescu: i suppose next is a boot camp that has a huge intellectual community so nobody can do cleaning detail.
ben_vulpes: and in other nyooz boy howdy am i glad that gm engineers understand the importance of redundant hood release systems
mircea_popescu: "I just want these important facts made clear on the blockchain" ?
mircea_popescu: i already know. she was in some poor people hangout or other doing poor people thing a or b.
mircea_popescu: i also don't give a shit where "very famous" "times top 100 most powerful people" rando ho was when X event happened, or what she was doing.
BingoBoingo: Abnormally long Xtend follows short Xtend. Likely to be followed by shorter Xtend because I can not forsee the flavor of lulz materially changing in a week. Not without The Great Again happening.
a111: Logged on 2015-02-03 21:34 ben_vulpes: <the_scourge> mircea_popescu: yah cool, i did read through some logs << some lol. the point is that you've gotta pick up the variety speak, and that comes from reading logs in near-real-time for six months, not "some" or "a few" or "the ones i found interesting and/or easy"
mircea_popescu: and in other "very famous people nobody heard of / cares about", i give you http://68.media.tumblr.com/3a691d116528361dcc006f3dce94f7e7/tumblr_mxrh5dvbyj1ra9xwio2_1280.jpg
the_scourge: asciilifeform: yah I was talking about the pickup truck on the whitehouse lawn
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: i agree with you. But the rest of the world does not. The powers that be have declared her to be important
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform looks like small town isp, am i missinganything ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I believe he is referring to me driving truck on white house lawn
the_scourge: I'll have to ddg tucker max, never heard of him
mircea_popescu: all i see is a wanna-be tucker max. is that guy famous as 3 fucks so she can be famous as one fuck or what ?
the_scourge: shinohai: I'm still trying to work out how they did the dns. Obviously they are only hosting the one page which was just ripped off the gc.ca site, but dig says 199.73.55.35 is the IP, and that 404's
mircea_popescu: i confess i didn't get it
shinohai: I wonder if that gave her hives too.
shinohai: Hey I was a winner thx BingoBoingo \o/
mircea_popescu: i didn't realise you watch ALL of these!
mircea_popescu: and in other news the dow is up about 500 since nov 8. where's all the "finance experts" discussing what will happen pre nov 8 ? i seem to recall a consensus...
mircea_popescu: though i must confess that "write off private debt" thing is pretty lulzy.
asciilifeform: phf: i have of course seen.