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asciilifeform: but i - won't.
asciilifeform: i don't actually care if he signs via hook to his toilet flush lever
undata: ascii isn't the only format that's "right there for your eyes"
undata: I don't see why that's a requirement, but ok
mircea_popescu: i don't think you two are discussing the same discussion.
asciilifeform: if you won't let it chug
mircea_popescu: cazalla btw shouldn't http://trilema.com/smg-ipo-succeeded-other-statements be in there ?
mircea_popescu: assbot: Breakout Gaming Fall Short In Attempt To Raise 10,000 BTC | Qntra.net <<< they shouldn'rt feel bad, minigames didn't manage 10k either.
decimation: it's amazing that there isn't a version control system with embedded crypto signatures
mircea_popescu: and because of ddos, plenty of time miner doesn't rely.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: one can fudge the version string in the proggy, yes, but if you're on the network, folks can presumably connect to your node and test behaviours <<< miner doesn't have to rely
asciilifeform can't fathom what people argued about
asciilifeform: it's intended to process strings << incidentally - 'SNOBOL'. i invite folks to read about it. the idea of dedicated 'string processing' languages is rather old, and has not really gone anywhere 'snobol' hadn't gone.
mircea_popescu: decimation no, moreover, php doesn't try to do much. literally, it's intended to process strings.
undata: python isn't much better.
decimation: asciilifeform: what do you pay on average at your loper-os isp if you don't mind asking? it seems like a really cheap deal
decimation: yeah 'wasp' doesn't work in anarchy
asciilifeform: a highly armed, extremely disciplined military doesn't just vanish << where is soviet army ?
undata: american putin doesn't look much like him
undata: why wouldn't I expect Americans to choose their own Putin
BingoBoingo: undata: I'm just suggesting datacenter that can't be disconnected from a safe distance...
undata: I think American's are cowardly enough that Dallas won't have to be taken.
undata: a highly armed, extremely disciplined military doesn't just vanish because the congressmen stop coming to work
undata: I don't think the head-body metaphor applies here
decimation: you can't
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah what it really means is that you sat through many gov't meetings
BingoBoingo: decimation: Sure, handegg regular gameplay changes every year nao and Baseball hasn't had a real change since the mound was lowered because Bob Gibson
BingoBoingo: American football is simpler though. DOn't break your spine before you sign an NFL contract is basically all of handegg
BingoBoingo: Ah, well most 'Murican don't really get Baseball anymore unless their spanish is good.
asciilifeform: brain just won't digest.
asciilifeform confesses that he doesn't see anything whatsoever that may happen in a gladiatorial arena as 'silicon valley fucked'
BingoBoingo: ;;google nepal bitcoind doesn't sync
cazalla: joecool, i pray our aboriginals don't find this out or they might introduce TSA here
decimation: I guess the ban didn't go into full effect in the us until 96
BingoBoingo: Who didn't use leaded gas?
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: that's what I thought but based on these numbers...($2491 for ~13mn shares doesn't add up to the published market value as it looks like the ask value is ~ 8 cents a share)
asciilifeform: qnx << a very interesting item, and i loved playing with it when young, but it was inevitably bulldozed by the age of no-you-can't-make-money-selling-close-os-unless-you-re-apple-or-microshit
BingoBoingo: joecool: But 10 doesn't work on preferred hardware.
asciilifeform: even the source doesn't fit on floppy
bounce: then again, bb is floundering too. won't be the first time some company buys up something good for a bout of fleeing forward, goes down anyway and takes the good with it
bounce: don't think so.
BingoBoingo doesn't know if OpenBSD plus userland can be stripped to 1 FDD...
assbot: Logged on 22-10-2014 20:33:59; asciilifeform: i suggest going with whoever had the mailing list idea. emphasize the 'we sign things and so mechanism doesn't matter' aspect.
undata: don't buy a bunch of garbage if you're headed out.
mircea_popescu: othernubs`: i thought medium was the sort of site where literally anyone can publish? <<< medium is, essentially, the sort of venue created to give the impression of a #b-a to the 99% idiots who can't tell the difference.
mircea_popescu: it certainly couldn't be because the world sucks, right ?
mircea_popescu: bounce: I don't care if maladjusted angry youths want to run away and make trouble in a war zone. I do care if they come back, recruit some more kids (to do the same), cause trouble, shoot some jews, what have you. << how else do you expect the shithole to be fixed ?
mircea_popescu: bounce: announce that loud and clear and everybody knows what the score is. "if you want to go there, you're dead to us." << it won't work.
BingoBoingo: "Data Center that can't be disconnected" from a safe range
BingoBoingo: Paying one's own ransom as a protocol probably won't be perfected though until assbot's level 1 consists entirely of nuclear powers.
mircea_popescu couldn't give less of a shit about whatever "star" the ustardians have produced this week.
assbot: I was wondering when the rockstar economist Thomas Piketty would enter the climate debate... http://t.co/V2aOWzwWPQ http://t.co/vpt4SBE2w9
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo ya i don't mind it at all :)
mircea_popescu: the fact that we survived does not mean they didn't try.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Older version of Multibit don't need bloom filters...
BingoBoingo: jurov: Won't show until you restart firefox
nubbins`: i'd guess the favicon even though it hasn't loaded for me yet
bounce didn't catch where they were levying that tax, or what they were imagining the prices currently paid to be
asciilifeform: it doesn't take that much wealth to self-sustain << Mega-Lol!
undata: it doesn't take that much wealth to self-sustain
bounce: doesn't say if that's for mobile only or fixed too.
jurov: but it doesn't say which url exactly
mircea_popescu: "why am i so hot ? a wait, that was a third desert wasn't it. plus alcohol."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it wasn't an intellectual breakthrough of any kind whatsoever - but is apparently 'canonical' among the community of the Officially Sad.
asciilifeform: ok looks like author pointed it out: 'What's the economic reason of making software fake of well-known chip instead of making new one under your own name? This way they don't need to buy USB VID, sign drivers in Microsoft, no expenses on advertisement. This fake chip will be used right away in numerous mass-manufactured products.'
TheNewDeal: I don't see how it'd be worthless. In fact, if someone wanted to do business with me, they could literally ask you how it went
nubbins`: TheNewDeal, a man's gotta have criteria and you don't meet it, sorry
mircea_popescu: wait, this is a disease you don;t have but gets you welfare ?
assbot: Logged on 06-10-2014 21:06:55; gribble: Sent 7 minutes ago: <sgornick> Re: Qntra.net, I registered @Qntra on Twitter before some griefer /squatter did. Then put a Twitterfeed to push tweets from the RSS feed. When you want the twitter acct, let me know what e-mail to assign it to. It can't be an e-mail already used for any other twitter account.
bounce wasn't too impressed by that move
mike_c: yeah but they didn't have symmetric two way pegs.
mike_c: also requires a "soft-fork" of bitcoin, but don't worry, that's not as bad as a hard fork.
mike_c: sidechains! pegged to bitcoin! don't worry about the fact that it won't fucking work and the sidechains will collapse. we'll figure something out.
mike_c: you don't want to read it anyway
assbot: Why You Can't Manufacture Like Apple - Slashdot
mircea_popescu: my point was entirely that the first sale thing prolly won't take you far.
bounce: hm. I don't think they've been gone after, have they?
mircea_popescu: be like, "yeah, it's a fake, but you can't do jack because this guy paid that guy ten bux for it."
bounce: er. how did the owner say "yes please?", given that they evidently didn't see it coming?
bounce: and, hm, if the device proclaims to be vendor x / product y, then does the vendor have a right to say "but I didn't make this, this is fake. not my product" and set product id to 0?
bounce: setting product id to 0. didn't know they even had programmable vid/pid
bounce wouldn't be surprised to learn the chips bricked themselves because they're not up to spec
BingoBoingo: Wait, isn't sidechains just namecoin or any other merge mined thing, but without history?
asciilifeform: we aren't doing 'provably correct' or even 'fits in head' quite yet. just a reasonably sane janitorial job on classical bitcoind. downed pilot has to eat, whether the fauna have four legs, six, or a thousand.
asciilifeform: on anything, hell, univac. kelvin versioning doesn't mean you will never throw the whole thing away. just experesses the concept that code must cool down to pefect crystalline form, rather than accumulating turdacles.
mircea_popescu: that won't likely ever happen.
mircea_popescu: mike_c think of it strategically. won't it be funny when usgavin is stuck arguing that a) he's forking bitcoin and b) it's the real bitcoin ?
cazalla: bounce wishes the politicians would show some spine here. take their local passport, wave goodbye, declare them europe-wide persona non grata for all eternity. problem solved. <<< they sorta did that here but cancelled the passports so that they couldn't leave australia and not after
mike_c: yeah, and to follow this odd analogy, it doesn't call itself "toad". it calls itself "crocodile"
mircea_popescu: the wanna-bes on the outskirts of bitcoin are making baseless claims to a continuity that doesn't exist.
cazalla: mircea_popescu: cazalla by the way, intel sez that the reason you've not heard from sgornick nor will you is that the guy meanwhile figured out i'm involved, and doesn't like me either because i said nigger or cunt at some point in the past. <<< what a fucking cunt
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla at least you don;t have to moderate for child porn.
jurov: obv they aren't cached/invalidated at the same time
asciilifeform: i suggest going with whoever had the mailing list idea. emphasize the 'we sign things and so mechanism doesn't matter' aspect. ☟︎
bounce: you may have a local cache that hasn't timed out yet
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I know local host, but didn't qntra.net point there at one point?
mike_c: *** google-public-dns-a.google.com can't find qntra.net: Server failed
mike_c: your FUD won't win you that bitbet ;)
mircea_popescu: how isn't it a holding company ?!