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mircea_popescu: this ant theory doesn't stand ; they found the symmetries, much like arabs and french.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-29 18:48 mircea_popescu: note that for all the "free money!!!" the usg doesn't get any GOOD SHIT. it just gets the plasticars that they don't really want or need anyway, but not http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-28#1845236
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-29#1845694 << 'good shit' is not the only way to spend proceeds of plunder & theft -- can also spend like heroin addict, on staving off 'cold turkey'. which is what usg does, i.e. supplies 300M office plankton with cheap petrol, plastic house, plastic car. ☝︎
asciilifeform: first kingdom where they ban microshit , where will it be ? ( and can i buy ticket ! )
asciilifeform: ( ru , persia, et al, all fail likewise this litmus )
asciilifeform: as for '5000yr wisdom of china', i'd at least consider to take it seriously if they, say, quit running microshit.
asciilifeform: general electric, for instance, is hard at work on setting up 'next fukushima' in post-sov east europistan. bulgaria, ukrs, ro, close contestants for the eventual sr90 medal.
asciilifeform: the longer the usg show goes on , the moar intricately irreversible horrors will be born. which is why i do not buy worth one shit the hypothesis of 'wisdom of forward-looking wise 5000yr china' . they're civilization of the ant, 0 values but 'wealth' of the most immediate pov.
asciilifeform: ( why, so usg can pack the debeaked birds even tighter, breed new pathogens ? )
asciilifeform: or even to share vaccine ~only for chicken~
asciilifeform: ( as BingoBoingo & mircea_popescu already noted ) anybody would have to be tired of living, to share weaponizables with usg
mircea_popescu: note that for all the "free money!!!" the usg doesn't get any GOOD SHIT. it just gets the plasticars that they don't really want or need anyway, but not http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-28#1845236 ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: well, maybe the cn dun wanna provide the same pressure, as a free service.
asciilifeform: after removed -- began to bloat and leak , like those deep oceanic fishes.
asciilifeform: and yes pressure from su was the thing holding the insanity of fdr.usg into some semblance of sense. ☟︎
asciilifeform: but noshit , it aint 'economic transaction', it's a throne <-> peasant transaction, quod licet iovi non licet bovi (tm)(r)
a111: Logged on 2018-07-04 16:24 mircea_popescu: as far as uneducated, "hard" ustardian kids were concerned, the dilemma stood between stories of killing injuns and "building a civilisation out of a wilderness" by then two generations expired, or else ~kids just like them actually doing it~, driving motorcycles through the endless dusts of the middle earth and erecting oil pumping metropolises across the siberia.
mircea_popescu: if it ever worked that way, it was back in the 50s, when under pressure from soviet union free housing and moreover http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-04#1831653 ☝︎
asciilifeform: the old (nao mostly dead) institution of zek mortgage, was exactly this tho
mircea_popescu: economy means some trings, strictly. if it's not substitutable it's not economical.
mircea_popescu: but in any case, if you suspect it's an actual economic transaction, fill your own empty box with nothing, go see if it works.
mircea_popescu: well who the fuck knows. nobody understands chinese -- not even the speakers.
asciilifeform: ( would you do this, if you were gensek of cn ?? )
asciilifeform: why , i still dunget, would they do this.
mircea_popescu: "borrow". chinese ppls give them freebies. what, i know a guy named shaun who has a girl who's not a whore who he lends money to now and again.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so the classical model where 'they have a box with possibly 0, but the 0 not known for certain, so they can borrow from beijing against $box' entirely off ?
mircea_popescu: we do this cyclical "i don't understand why figment of my imagination is something i imagine" "because you do" "but what sort of worship do i owe figment of my imagination ?" "none" "what about waking every morning at 5 and saying figment don't exist in a hoarse voice ?" "nope"
asciilifeform: but if somehow item seeing sunlight would help hitler to die -- then i'd like to see it .
mircea_popescu: just saying, the value of showing negatives is very much jealous wife interest.
asciilifeform: with the unknown 'but thought large' pile of au in it
mircea_popescu: (if it's not worth 0 to you, you just got a fix of your value to the usg! that's how much zek tack you're carrying)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc you were the one who wrote about that one mountain in ro
mircea_popescu: secret someone has something is worth the finder's fee, which is why it's called that. 10%.
asciilifeform: evidently the derps themselves, think >0
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'than it's worth' is complicated -- how much is worth the seekret of 'usg has 0 au' ?
a111: Logged on 2018-08-29 18:24 asciilifeform: Mocky: ask him some time why don't the tank corps at ft knox storm the inner fort and expose the fdr sham.
asciilifeform: the au may be in beijing , but the bezzle-au still safely stored at knox..
mircea_popescu: moreover, whether it cost more in guarding than it was worth, since it's been a while ?
Mocky: ~everyone coming though the gates is wondering where it is
asciilifeform: funnily enuff, moar seekrecy around subj than ~anyffing outside of perhaps nsa crypto directorate
Mocky: I never saw it while there, rumored to be there tho
asciilifeform: ( yes they have the nominal home of the fdr-confiscatola ~inside~ tank corps school )
asciilifeform: Mocky: ask him some time why don't the tank corps at ft knox storm the inner fort and expose the fdr sham. ☟︎
Mocky was marine corps tank driver in reserves, was active duty for some months on army base
asciilifeform not been in usa army. but did work as non-liveried specialist with their medical corps, for some yrs, so got an -- admittedly coloured -- look at one organ of the beast, from inside
mircea_popescu: citizen means he who can lynch and annul court cases, not he who's just tryna make it.
Mocky: asciilifeform, 'i hate my job' is the internalization of the problem, opposite of questioning
asciilifeform: afaik not enuff mexicans to make serious diff, yet
mircea_popescu: noncitizen soldiery. which is why all the "usarmy provided training and logistical support" etc.
asciilifeform: Mocky: us army is not waffen ss tho. visit a base, it's full of the typical 'i hate my job' schmuck that you meet anywhere else, construction sites, mines, wherever
Mocky: the ones who couldn't be 'trained not to question' failed training
asciilifeform: rather than cutting throats
asciilifeform: the only part of the system that doesn't make any sense to asciilifeform , is why the soldiers, raped raw regularly with e.g. retro-revoked bonuses, deployments to goatfuckistans with 0 strategy beyond 'clear mines with own feet', etc -- continue to prop up the inca
asciilifeform: if you send spawn to 'uncertified' school, yer a criminal, if bury parent in uncertified tomb, also criminal, if... well errybody already knows, i think
asciilifeform: all of ustardism is structured this way.
mircea_popescu: which is how the 10k is arrived at,
asciilifeform: bahahanope. see, just like in life ustards have 'homeowner association' that prohibits wrong colour paint of house...
mircea_popescu: and THIS is why : average zek can't, because average zek not person, inhuman, can't do anything like ghosts can't do anything.
asciilifeform: ( why ? apparently some co has a quasi-monopoly . how this is possible, is beyond me , but seems to be troo )
asciilifeform: phunphakt, gravestones already on their way out in usa, trend is to 'envir friendly' burials, with wooden stakes, paper flags, just like the old gulag
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: zeks dun have 'owned slice', lol, thats what makes'em zeks
mircea_popescu: and i don't mean no "sentimental" bullshit, either. casa quantu stai e tirrinu quantu viri.
mircea_popescu: but parents who leave behind no owned slice of the world don't deserve a grave, and merit to spend eternity in shameland.
mircea_popescu: hey, let them buy bitcoin, i don't care how they go about it.
asciilifeform: ( and this is the only type of inheritance that still worx in usgdom )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun subscribe to the model where folx who dun have a usg.'foundation' to meritwash their spawn into backdoor-inheriting meritwashed moneys, are 'shit parent'
asciilifeform: sometimes moar effective tho, when yer stupid, and wishing for actively idiotic wisholade
mircea_popescu: in other shocking news today, pissing more effectual than wishing in all fields and applications!
mircea_popescu: "wish in your left hand and piss in your right ; stop when one fills up and check out to see which it was!"
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: !Q later tell hanbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/lQzIk/?raw=true
Mocky: well not like a bunch of black dudes sayin 'wish my parents were white'... then some white kid would have been the son
asciilifeform: have better ticket!11
mircea_popescu: this fucking matters ; having shit parents makes one shittier than the alternative, and the fact that "There's nothing he can do about that" doesn't EXCUSE anything.
mats: property inheritance lottery still in place in ca, due to prop 13
mircea_popescu: like the celebrated case of http://trilema.com/2018/the-principal-agent-problem-or-how-america-went-away/#selection-131.79-131.97
mircea_popescu: had a brief career in the us, but west coast only, and limited to post-gilded age dweebs only.
mircea_popescu: so no, the "wait for parents to die", traditional euro-french strategy of the "age of enlightenment" as it were, nevertheless long in the tooth.
mircea_popescu: maybe in the sense of, "currently solvent". but wealthy is not experimentally encountered.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-29 17:49 Mocky: then they will promptly take out a mortgage, lol
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-29#1845577 << usg.mortgage is a device for separating salaried zeks (engineers, law, etc) from their 'excess' fat. not for millenial pauper to borrow against... what, exactly. (maybe organs?) ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: gotta keep up with the costs of the spanis-american war!
mircea_popescu: i'm sure the "not a tax" tax however DIDNT get fucking cancelled. much like the spanish-american war DID get cancelled, but the tax on phone introduced "for" it is still there.
mircea_popescu: straight from whorse's mouth : "i thought doctor visits were free on obamacare. it doesn't even do that ?" "affordable care act got cancelled"
a111: Logged on 2017-06-29 17:32 BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=8142 << "Her attorney informed us this morning, that although the deed is being assigned to my sister, my brother and I, that if my mother requires nursing home care through Medicare at any point over the next five years, that the Feds will take the house to pay the bills. "
Mocky: then they will promptly take out a mortgage, lol ☟︎
mircea_popescu: that's long past. parents mostly rent. and then there's medicare.
mats: sad. kids waiting for their parents to die so they can move into their house
mircea_popescu: and yes the trend is agravating, 2000s born set will certainly "owe" more than 1995-2000 set which in turn about 100% more than 1990-1995 set and so fucking following.
mircea_popescu: "oh, calculus isn't fgor everyone" "money -- also not for everyone. i'll take all yours now."
mircea_popescu: i have a good mind to start billing trump. "25 yo can't calculus"
mats: the editing isn’t very good, but my take is that 30% of borrowers have -at least- missed 3 payments over five years (‘students facing serious struggles’)
mircea_popescu: (chinese, reportedly still fucking horrible; but then again maybe in time, it's not so far from prepubescent girly olympi-perisexual displays, and they sure mastered that)
mircea_popescu: no soviets in the east ; and no cn/kr/etc permitted to fly. for same "smelly" reason, i suspect. the koreans aren't all that bad these days.
asciilifeform: afaik there was no brit presence in pacific, tho. straight usa vs jp contest.
mircea_popescu: raf dominated the east << i mean, the west, of course.
mircea_popescu: then they wanna know why obesity problem.
mircea_popescu: nobody will fucking drive ~the largest target that can be found~ in the middle of chaos, what the fuck. an ustard however will find this natural.
mircea_popescu: totally, that's how "postapocalyptic" works. moving barns and dressed women.
asciilifeform: but no hard evidence that this happened, only folklore.