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mircea_popescu: pseudoscientific discipline is to push a individual-bad society-good political agenda.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger that said, the whole field of "socpsy" is poppycock, entirely in the manner of "moscow psychology" - it exists to try and justify a, in mussolini's terms, "Against individualism, the Fascist conception is for the State;" ( http://trilema.com/2013/sex-in-the-news/#selection-105.0-105.64 ). they even admit their "bedrock" is this "fundamental attribution error". they don't however admit that the whole point of this
a111: Logged on 2016-12-16 18:18 mircea_popescu: if girl a sees girl b drop a vase girl a thinks girl b is clumsy ; if girl a sees girl a drop the same vase girl a tihnks the vase is slippery.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-15 18:09 asciilifeform: 'There are a number of ways to verify the device; first, you can click on a link shown in the index.htm file present on the device. That link includes a signed message, that only an Opendime with access to the private key can generate.' << who wants to buy one of these things and see what the nonces look like.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-17 13:25 mircea_popescu: id they said nothing or this ? c) the principle "if you're going to say i'm a dog explain why!" is sound, but this is sadly not always possible. an eminent example of a class of cases when this isn't possible is when someone says something in direct and seeming wilful contradiction of logic. d) statements about you by others are statements about the world-you object as perceived by them not about the i-you subject as perceive
mircea_popescu: f get to be su intellectuals ? i'm not saying he is or isn't, it's just not clear. i) why do we think whatever intellectuals do or don't do has any impact on what eventually happens ? j) maybe russians just shed a skin, like reptiles ? their decline was kinda brief and they came out of it with fire under butt, apparently. certainly if you look at "which white man nation has a shot of being still around in 2116" ru doesn't bot
mircea_popescu: this didn't seem worth the evaluation so i passed it) a "pyramid of science" pecking order may well be involved, in the sense that "oh, we learned null sets in kindergarten" and phf's english, while formally fine, does not actually serve him well enough to convey this difference i don't suspect. g) what's "das man" ? h) how did ph ☟︎
mircea_popescu: d by you. this one true largest gap in the theory of knowledge can not in practice ever be bridged, and must be allowed for. e) i don't understand which of the two examples given is a strawman nor how do the two examples given map to the conversation as it went. f) it seems to me very dubious altogether that there was a pecking order, as in, who's teh greatest lord consideration involved. on 2nd pass analysis (cuz originally
mircea_popescu: id they said nothing or this ? c) the principle "if you're going to say i'm a dog explain why!" is sound, but this is sadly not always possible. an eminent example of a class of cases when this isn't possible is when someone says something in direct and seeming wilful contradiction of logic. d) statements about you by others are statements about the world-you object as perceived by them not about the i-you subject as perceive ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: isuse but not beyond. he's a very poor source to learn new words through practice from for this reason. in any case, some strong statements on the topic'd be that a.1) it's originally a vor ie russian prison system concept ; a.2) there's nothing ever fun about it, nor mirthful ; a.3) roosters and feathers are deeply involved for some reason. b) "only whoever said nothing today said this." is self-contradictory on the face - d
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-17#1584804 << dawg, this in-general commentary style is very confusing to me. parser fails pluriously and compiler identifies the following problems which for your convenience have been packed separately : a) the whole "[lowered into] pederasty" concept is used improperly. given alf's incessant usage this is understandable, but mind that alf tends to very finely abuse terms at the very edge of m ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: we might have estranged a german engineer's mail order bride!
mircea_popescu: so we mock him a little (which he germans through) and part on good friends. two days later, turns out she moved on.
mircea_popescu: two hours in, the girl being a sweet soul, asked if he might be invited over ? so sure, dude's been playing the dog long enough, let him be invited over.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, and this is truly lulzworthy : raiding party identified hot girl, set up a meet. at this meet it was established a) that she's from novosibirsk! and b) there was this dorky german fellow attached, who literally sat, by himself, at a table nearby while we had drinks and icecream and shit.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-16#1584330 << in these terms, statements regarding me (OP is a faggot) cannot be acted upon while retaining selfhood. statements about the world ~can~ ☝︎
trinque: and if this "skewering the thing that wasn't said, to the great entertainment of das man" was widespread among SU intellectuals, that'd be a fine reason for them to have gone into decline.
trinque: the pederasty comment is about the glee with which folks will erect a strawman, ("This is how it's defined." <-> "Why?") vs ("This is how it's defined?" <-> "No it's not.") to fuck, which has more to do with... primate brains, less to do with thinking.
BingoBoingo would say he's confused but doesn't want to invite a dick into his mouth.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-17 03:11 trinque: such is the burden of a volkswagen owner.
trinque: such is the burden of a volkswagen owner. ☟︎
trinque had a fine day; would've been better with drinks.
mircea_popescu: of all the times in my life i had to explain to a sober judge in the morning wtf the fight was about, this'd have easily been my preferred choice
phf: trinque: you lost your shit, cause i ruffled your feathers a bit, ~uncharacteristically~ you were ranting, in the popular style of the channel, but without any of the substance. you unrated me literally for busting your balls, the only reason is we're still on speaking terms is because you helped me out with the gpg key issue
asciilifeform: ...we have a crowd??
mircea_popescu: lol this sounds like the beginning of a beautiful.
mircea_popescu: gents gotta remember though, teh r word's a fightin' word.
asciilifeform: i reread the log twice and still at a loss re wtf that was about
trinque: I think I've long demonstrated that I don't cling to a disproved belief.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-16 17:49 phf: oh, shit, we've got a reddit consensus over here
a111: Logged on 2016-12-16 18:03 BingoBoingo: trinque is Texan where confused is a synonym for sucking cocks. It's a cultural soft spot.
mircea_popescu: which idem, won't go anywhere near a warzone later than 1990s
asciilifeform: '...if Trump’s already calling for the cancellation of the Air Force One program, he could just as easily target the F-35 — and that’s a potential disaster for Northern Utah.' << ohnoez, 1,000,001 leeches might starve!
mircea_popescu: but seriously, watching the great unracists trying to sell xenophobia in a desperate-if-doomed attempt to deny their own irrelevance is slightly surreal.
phf: i guess one step at a time
phf: asciilifeform: would be pretty easy if it's just press with highlight and blame. xref a little bit more complicated
mircea_popescu is going to ask kids this from now on. "oh, you have a github ? aren;t you ashamed of yourself ?"
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, how can anyone admit to having a github myspace nowadays ?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-16 23:15 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i used 'uber' a number of times, it is a very mixed bag
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-16#1584633 << tried it exactly once because in weird hipster company. they proposed i wait something like i dun recall 40 minutes ? i just called a guy. ☝︎
asciilifeform: but you ~do~ for some perverse reason need a peer.
asciilifeform: see, in my head, i can see who last touched what, but this continue forever, is not a substitute for actual tool
asciilifeform: btw phf do you think we could get a src viewer in your vtron that makes this kind of thing apparent to naked eye?
ben_vulpes: miner should work just fine without a tx in mempool wtf
asciilifeform: how the fuck do you intend to generate a block without any tx
ben_vulpes: a recently compiled bitcoin node, running in its own directory, booted as `LC_ALL=C ./bitcoin -datadir=<local_data_directory> -debug -printtoconsole -gen'
asciilifeform: 'dun worry, when your lemon dies, you can assemble a new one with parts from other lemons'
pete_dushenski: as someone who just oversaw ownership of early 2000s lexus is300 that put on 40k km in a year, i'm not sure i'd recommend it unless you're pretty handy. not hard to work on, but parts aren't super cheap, it's a bit dicey in the winter, it's a ~very~ firm ride, and it's soooo hard on consumables (gas and oil).
asciilifeform: where do i buy a NEW 80s merc motor.
BingoBoingo: Some expenses actually have a maximum
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Max cost of brake work on such a vehicle tops out at ~900 to ~1200 to replace entire "make car stop" system.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: In that case you want a 90s honda civic or 90s lexus 300
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: when booting anode in 'solipsistic test network' mode with gen=1 and genproclimit=some reasonable fraction of local cores, i should see a few cores go to 100% utilization immediately, no?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i used 'uber' a number of times, it is a very mixed bag ☟︎
ben_vulpes: omg may i relate how bad a job next door is doing
pete_dushenski: "Uber relies on location services to ensure safe and accurate rides. In this latest version of the app, you’ll now be asked to allow location information collection from the time you request a ride through up to five minutes after it ends. This helps identify better pickup and dropoff points and helps customer service if you ever need to contact us about a trip. You’ll always be in control over what
asciilifeform: i know a d00d who reassembles '50s 'golden age of usa' autos. has machine shop, and even multiple houses , which he rents out except for garage, in each - keeps 1-3 of these museum pieces
asciilifeform has never ftr owned a pdp
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: sell a couple, buy airplane, those at least are actual fun
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: toyota then. lexus if you sell a million fuckgoats.
pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/QDzJl << ben_vulpes will like. a fleetwood piece penned by my older pal / newer sparring partner jack baruth
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: dude, walking out your front door is 'travelling to some shithole'. and no one will bring new car to you! so might as well live a little. remember how fun chicago was ? or ba ?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: it is not enough to buy a lemon, i should also travel to some shithole to do it?!
asciilifeform: ' I recently bought a fountain pen. it cost the equivalent of about 1500 throw-away ball pens. 1500 ball pens would have made me very frustrated, but this sleek, elegant pen made me happy.'
ben_vulpes: why drive a minivan when you can drive an EIGHTIES CADILLAC i aska you
pete_dushenski: http://bringatrailer.com/auctions/ << plenty of solid, well-cared-for metal for under 10k here alf. as the lots cover the continent, you can even make a road trip (blog story!) out of the adventure. also gives you a chance to play autions without playing eulora.
BingoBoingo: Put on a camper shell and you have a FUCKGOATS transporter
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'd actually rather have a trabant, if they could be had, at least they were cheap, than these monstrosities that drink petrol like airplane and die without warning in traffic
ben_vulpes: "you know, babe, instead of a single car that cost 35K, we could have.../35k of cars/"
ben_vulpes: that's a good lookin truck
ben_vulpes: possibly 'lemon' if you can't get in a car and hear mid diff wobble, possibly lemon if you don't do the sale at a dealership and pay 100 for the safety inspection before purchasing, possibly lemon if all sorts of 'civilian'
asciilifeform: eh ben_vulpes is not a civilian, he gentoos his autos
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: a 2000s auto is a lemon after 5-7 yrs.
ben_vulpes: neighbor of mine was whingeing about the cost of the light rail, "o noes it'll never pay for itself" "my man, it got me to move to this neighbhorhood. give it a decade and you'll make the difference up personally with home value increase."
ben_vulpes: trinque: 'tis a wonder of socialist engineering
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: once a very long time ago
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: have you tried installing eulora on a mac ?
asciilifeform: low if you have a garage.
trinque: if I were in an area with trains I'd go without a car for a while. wouldn't be the first time.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: when mine rusts away, i might not even replace it, 20k usd buys a great many cab rides. probably more than i'd need in the 5yrs that a 20k-usd machine costs now.
ben_vulpes: trinque: get a lotus elise
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 0 pavement that isn't a city street.
mircea_popescu: i bet he drives like, a honda.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it so happens that i have a working auto
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Anyways the solution to the "wheels for alf" problem is he needs three 1990's Lexus IS 300's from which to construct a one superior example.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well no, i get a ftp and a wwb for the trouble.
ben_vulpes has a whole wad of key chords, irc a vanishingly small fraction
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: a man with two hands upon the kb will more easily type !)
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yes, !A is closer to ! than !&
a111: Logged on 2016-02-02 15:53 ascii_butugychag: so there's a proggy i've been testin'
mircea_popescu: and evidently you'd have to have a !%prices
mircea_popescu: 1. user says !%cred ; 2. mimisbrunnr replies with link to rsa-encrypted user/pass/url combination for, eg, a ftp session ; 3. if i share the url, i share the url, with whoever i want ; 4. you meter and bill ; 5. !%destroy kills it
mircea_popescu: well evidently the tmsr-rsa isn't ready, so i'm guessing ad interim a scheme like this could work
ben_vulpes: "rsync-like" has rather a few assumptions baked in
mircea_popescu: basically all you have to get together is a rsync-like and an elastic store/web infrastructure.
asciilifeform: not at a ~new~ auto lot anyway.
asciilifeform: haven't been since i was a boy.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-16 16:37 mircea_popescu: speaking of which ben_vulpes : how would you feel about adding a rsync-like interface for wotpaste through rsa sessions ?
mircea_popescu: trabant would actually be a great brand under which to roll up all the vc/sv "revolutionary tech"
asciilifeform: sometimes i get impression that folx are posting from a parallel world