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KRS-One: he said
there are way more powerful onees.
KRS-One: My friend josh bought a laser you can actually see in
the air..fucker hurts.
BingoBoingo: Usually she'd be 20 years older and...
the
things
that go with
that
BingoBoingo: KRS-One: Might be an interesting episode of Law and Order. Catching
the criminal who switches dance lasers with death lasers.
KRS-One: Kinda makes you
think, doesn't it?
KRS-One: BingoBoingo:
The
thing is you can go
to a disco but are you really safe? Any number of
those fancy lights and beams could be a death ray.
KRS-One: Turn down
the
troll a bit.
BingoBoingo: KRS-One: What's abnormal about it? Ever been
to a pool hall?
KRS-One: Love how everyone looks like its perfectly normal
to have a barenaked lady standing
there in
the pool hall.
mircea_popescu: girl
that's never been in a pool hall before... props her nose on
the cue.
chipug: if it's not specified
the state of
the shark, you can get plastic ones for $12.99
BingoBoingo: KRS-One: If you have farm raised sharks with certifiably low mercury levels, I am pretty sure
there are worth much more as food
than guards
KRS-One: ok fine i just happen
to have a dream of owning my own shark
tank with laser rays for my enemies ok?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the best part of all
this, of course, is
that point defense is becoming an exercise in stupidity anyway
mod6: wow, diff is up
to: "difficulty" : 62719.43923596,
BingoBoingo: KRS-One:
The shark is
too valuable on
the plate and in
the soup bowl
to give it a laser
Namworld: Well we have defense system
that are far more accurate and quicker
to react
than humans already...
mircea_popescu: KRS-One seeing how more people own a dozen rockets
than a dozen laser sharks...
KRS-One: rocket isnt cheaper
than sharks with laser rays
mircea_popescu: Namworld so you
think, but once you factor in
the various factors it's actually no longer
the case.
BingoBoingo: Well, nuclear weapons require less unobtanium
than death rays
Namworld: The human eye can't see far and human reaction is far slower
than
tech ersatzes...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the salmon strategy, by its scientific name.
mircea_popescu: Namworld
the human eye is much better
than
tech ersatzes.
theo__: Or better yet a satellite system
that has lasers built in
to act as a defense over
the earth creating a overlaying network of defense?
Namworld: I never said a human would need
to react
to it.
BingoBoingo: I was acquainted with someone who worked on an unclassifed project about as useful as missile defense. Essentialy
the device was a hair drier large enough
to accomodate a 747, because anthrax
mircea_popescu: most people who get punched out claim
they never saw
the fist.
Namworld: Yes, even at 3 miles per second. Is
that such a problem with almost instant reaction? Enough
to reach incoming
target before it's close enough. It might be a bit
too close for comfort I guess.
mircea_popescu: depends on wavelength, but it IS probl;ematic for radar
too yes
KRS-One: hypersonic is faster
than radar
too
Namworld: Why wouldn't you if you can visually
track
the incoming projectile?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
they keep knocking it, but ultra
tensile meshes are better
than all
the crap
they've built so far
Namworld: It doesn't matter if you can shoot a volley where
the incoming
target will be.
the20year: Mesh
type missiles,
that explode a large metal mesh
mircea_popescu: basically a steel mesh would be better
than a bullet in
this configuration.
the20year: Remember during
the faulklands,
the UK ships had
those and were able
to intercept a
total of 0 missiles
mircea_popescu: Namworld i don't
think you fully grok
the mechanics involkved.
the20year: and on a boat
that is moving on waves....a bit more difficult
Namworld: With visual instead of radar. Bullet spray. Very efficient considering
the cost of bullets. Most expensive is probably
the
tracking systems.
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the20year: There supposedly is a YF23 version
that was carrier capable, at a unit cost still well under
the F35
mircea_popescu: (cause obviously,
the hypersonic missiles in discussion are chinese
tech)
mircea_popescu: anyway : who was ranting about how china isn't a
threat ?
BingoBoingo: the20year:
The problem with
the F-22 as a universal fighter jet is it is
too big for an aircraft carrier. (Apparently noone considered making
the smaller version)
the20year: I
talk
to so many contractors
that go into vivid detail of
the corruption
the20year: Military procurement is by far
the most corrupt system in
the government
the20year: OR we could have brought
the F23 into production, and done
the same
thing
mircea_popescu: at least
they're not asking for an airplane
that works like a submarine
the20year: Especially when
the F22 can do
the same crap it does, with 10 year older
technology for a unit cost
that's 30% lower
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: At
the current rate it looks like
the F-35
takes
the cake. Does nothing well as an airplane, because
the Marine corps insists
they need a fighter jet
that works like a helicopter
the20year: What's
the economic impact of a 1mt warhead detonating 10000ft in
the air over manhattan?
mircea_popescu: "Strategic missile defense might
therefore very well constitute
the worst investment-return ratio of any major military system in U.S. history"
the20year: At 50 missiles launched,
thats 1,000 warheads coming down on your country
mircea_popescu: this is what people usually say about driving with
their feet.
BingoBoingo: I'm
telling you,
top
the interceptor missile with a 30 kt warhead and your margin of error is covered
the20year: We already use satellites
to
track potential ICBM launches, but
tracking RVs is quite hard
Namworld: Not
trivial, but probably doable.
mircea_popescu: tracking missiles from a satellite isn't quite as
trivial as all
that.
the20year: That would do hypersonics, but
the distance
to intercept is only 200-300mi
Namworld: I
thought
that's why
they're aiming at laser defense systems.
the20year: The genie also kind of served
the same purpose , or could be used
that way at least
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