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punkman: but it's hard
to stay still for
the bigger fillings and shit
punkman: mircea_popescu: I skip
the anesthesia at
the dentist, hate having a numb face for 4 hours after
mircea_popescu: because im confronted with "but mommy i don't like X" way more often
than any sane person should.
nubbins`: you use "tough" like it's an explanation more often
than an intelligent person should
mircea_popescu: if she's cool enough
to start shooting she's cool enough
to
take it on
the chin and move on.
mircea_popescu: you give alice way
too much credit while simultaneously giving her way
too little credit.
nubbins`: if your ass is in
the door, yes
nubbins`: no,
tough for
the hospital staff she shoots
mircea_popescu: also probably
the only guy
to have ever been shot etc.
mircea_popescu: dub of everyone here i'm
the only guy
that gets his
teeth fixed w/o anesthesia i'd wager.
dub: spoken like someone
that doesnt know pain
nubbins`: or do we just shoot everyone who hurts
their back?
mircea_popescu: of all
things it's actually
the most bearable. as people die of
thirst in a coupla days and of hunger in a coupla months
nubbins`: well if we're being obstinate, suppose alice has a job
that she can't perform when experiencing high levels of pain
mircea_popescu: tell you what, it's only unbearable cause you're used
to being a sissy
mircea_popescu: what, you
think herniated disks were invented AFTER oxycodone ?
nubbins`: your choices are stay in
the hospital for 6 months or deal with unbearable chronic pain for 6 months
mircea_popescu: suddenly it's a well
this oxycodone is kinda cool, but im stuck here for a day cause of it.
dub: havent you seen
the matrix?
nubbins`: yeah dude, shit doesn't hurt in
the hospital
mircea_popescu: dub who needs "pain relief" when
they're stuck in hospital ?
dub: a bed for everyone
that needs pain relief?
mircea_popescu: dub my point being
that you don't want subservience, you want competence.
nubbins`: hospital stays are a burden on
the
taxpayer, problem unsolved
mircea_popescu: alice wants oxycodone for her surgery she stays in
the hospital.
dub: as should be obvious,
the better way
to acheive your subservience is
to addict you
to drugs and
tv
nubbins`: which one gets healthcare and which one gets
turned away / shot?
nubbins`: alice
takes oxycodone after her back surgery, bob
takes oxycodone for
the lels. alice and bob go
to
the hospital complaining of a bum knee.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` definitely more normal
than
the current crop.
dub: maybe at
the cost of most of
thier utility
nubbins`: and ALL grow up
to be normal adults and not psychopaths
mircea_popescu: six months later ALL
the kids in
that class do ALL
the homework ALL of
the
time flawlessly.
mircea_popescu: you go
to class of schoolkids, lay down
the rules for what
they have
to do
till next class. whoever didn't do it is beaten
till
they pass out.
mircea_popescu: do
the gedankenexperiment, as asciilifeform calls
them :
mircea_popescu: course people who dislike shit working
tend
to scream it doesn't work, but hey.
mircea_popescu: dub far as i've seen it;s
the only
thing it ever worked.
mircea_popescu: anyway, fwiw, in my experience works splendidly. whether you're working
to destupidify women, or
to build an exchange, or anything else.
nubbins`: and
the government will sell it
to me
nubbins`: i can get my doctor
to prescribe me weed
mircea_popescu: people can want in one hand and piss in
the other, see which fills first.
☟︎ nubbins`: in canada, it's generally accepted
that people don't want
things
the way you describe
nubbins`: maybe for romania, no idea what
things are like
there
nubbins`: i can't see any flaws in
this line of
thinking
mircea_popescu: there's no cutoff. you're caught stealing
that's it for you.
dub: steal a look at random chicks
tits?
nubbins`: you're gonna steal flatscreen
TVs
to pay for a hospital stay?
mircea_popescu: dub
there's no "dealing". its not your motherfucking job
to solve idiots problems
mircea_popescu: you can afford drugs, you can afford
to pay
the hospital bill.
dub: people are going
to do it,
there is an efficient way
to deal and its not filling up jails
dub: its like arguing
that prostitution be illegal
mircea_popescu: dub no it's not. you
telling me a heroin addict is untestable for junk ?
nubbins`: know what's cheaper
than a drug
test?
dub: its kinda like
the argument for not fucing up
the environment
then dealing with it later
mircea_popescu: while recent
tech boom allowed such nonsense be financed by squandering resources
that'd have been better used elsewhere,
dub: costs more
than healthcare etc
dub: dead body in
the gutter causes more problems
mircea_popescu: no, it's a solution in reality.
the lala land is
the presumption
that anyone is worth something.
mircea_popescu: you ever used drugs in your life ?
tough. gotta pay now.
mircea_popescu: the solution is
to not provide any healthcare out of public funds for any drug user.
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> junkies are going
to shoot up whether
they have clean digs or not <<
the solution isn't
to let
them do w/e
they want cause otherwise
they hold
their breath
nubbins`: they busted a house across
the street from a dive bar i frequent some months ago
benkay: "have some
tv, water, food-paste, sharps, internet. go
to
town, kids! just don't leave
the
tower."
benkay: just a short slide from locking all of
the undesireables up in crappy hi-rises. i endorse.
nubbins`: you want 'em in
the streets or in a sharps container?
moiety: this way,
they are contained
too
moiety: i
think 100% would rather not see
them staggering/laying around places either
nubbins`: think about
that:
THREE QUARTERS of a major metropolitan city would rather
the junkies have a safe, clean place
to shoot up
nubbins`: 76% of vancouver residents support
the existence of Insite
moiety: cleaner practice is always
the ideal
nubbins`: social conservatives struggle with
this concept
moiety: it is, if
they want it
they will get it
nubbins`: anyway,
the big mistake people make is
thinking
that safe injection sites, free crack pipes etc "enable" drug users
moiety: totally agree with you
there benkay
nubbins`: the purpose of safe injection sites is
to prevent junkies from getting hep c and
try
to get
them
to clean up
benkay: everyone's a burden on healthcare, moiety. idiots who eat
too many carbs and develop diabetes are vastly more expensive
than junkies.
nubbins`: junkies are going
to shoot up whether
they have clean digs or not
nubbins`: or, put another way,
the guy who shared a needle vs
the guy who got a clean one
nubbins`: the guy with hep c, for example, vs
the guy without
moiety: how?
they are using healthcare, if not for
their habit, for
the issues it brings
them later down
the line
nubbins`: and even
then,
there are degrees