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decimation: the aircraft carriers will rot in
their docks
decimation: Well, if
there is a major collapse of
the US dollar for instance
decimation: The Russian nukes were managed by
the civil service who wrought
them
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decimation: indeed, and once a 'bitcoin sovereign' acquires nukes,
the foothold will be forever established
pankkake: does S.MPOE intend
to buy nukes?
jurov: the us bought
them
decimation: interesting.
the
trouble with a
turbulant future for
the US (or other nuclear powers) is: what happens
to
the nukes?
mircea_popescu: so i can
totally see arizona liberated by
the las vegas cocksucker
tribe.
mircea_popescu: including a certain high ranking chick
the french king.
decimation: We are
talking 1600's or so? no I don't
mircea_popescu: jurov famished as
they are,
they'll be prolly beaten off with a stick
jurov: china joins
the fray,
then japan,...
jurov: mircea_popescu: maybe north korea will invade
the south once us
troops go home
mircea_popescu: decimation incidentally, you know how late venice resolved
the problem of french invaders ?
mircea_popescu: obviously should
the russians, chinese, saudi, israelis etc etc actually want
to set foot
decimation: I guess if everyone is at fault
then nobody is at fault
decimation: at
the very least,
there will be a hunt for collaborators
decimation: Well, almost all "sovereign" nations
today define
themselves in relation
to US power
KRS-One: not sure about
the stability part, but it will be felt.
decimation: the
trouble is
that
the collapse of
the US will engulf
the entire world in instability
mircea_popescu: no argument
that it will probably get bloody around
this argument rather
than any other,
mircea_popescu: or review
the legal history of
the concept of nullification
mircea_popescu: except
the only point of history n
the us is
the defeating of such a construct.
decimation: some states are fairly homogeneous, and
the idea of a 'state' is a sufficient Schelling point around which militia can rally
decimation: especially
the ones
that haven't been demographically ruined
decimation: yeah,
there are many possibilities but
the most likely seems
to be falling back
to individual soviergnty of
the states
davout: mircea_popescu:
this i get
mircea_popescu: the us is a large, federal (as opposed
to national) construct.
mircea_popescu: decimation peaceful
transition is experimentally a function of ethnic and cultural homogenity and size.
decimation: hopefully
there will be no Committee for Public Safety in
the us
decimation: I'm certainly a fan of peaceful
transitions
davout: pankkake: your english is better
than mine
davout: mircea_popescu: i'll need
to ask pankkake
to explain
this one
to me
mircea_popescu: davout i like preaching
to
the converted,
they have
the best cleavage.
mircea_popescu: this is why attacking
the currency is so paramountly important.
davout: mircea_popescu: nice article, preaching
to
the converted :-)
mircea_popescu: it's only stable for as long as
there's no new
technology.
decimation: The
trick
that
the us government must navigate is
to make
the people still
think
they matter while making all
the real decisions for
them
decimation: look at
the Eastern Roman empire, and China
decimation: This is mostly
true, but
the civil service can't entirely ignore
the media either. On
the other hand,
the civil service also
tells
the media what
to print
mircea_popescu: the us is
the civil service, like any socialist state,
the bureaucracy.
mircea_popescu: so basically...
the press is just living off handouts,
the academia mostly wishes
to circlejerk undisturbed, has first dibs on available cash and otherwise grumbles but is
thankful if resources dwindle
BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: I can't guarantee I'll be awake
that far into
the future.
decimation: The civil service in
the US is mostly a jobs program, but
the elite staff at
the
top generally knows what
they are doing (like Ceausescu,
they have learned
through doing)
decimation: I
think
that's
true
to some extent - not so with elected officials
though
mircea_popescu: not because
the guy orders
them killed, but because
the guy is actrually smarter
than
them, and breaks off
their metaphorical arms and beats
them into a pulp with
them
mircea_popescu: but if
they get caged with a head of civil service
they get wiped.
mircea_popescu: this, i am convinced, is
the situation of
the us academia :
they
tell each other
they're smart,
mircea_popescu: the man passed for an idiot in
their
theoretical writings, he owns
them on
the floor. not because of a
threat of violence, but
through simple intellectual superiority.
mircea_popescu: it summarizes a book, which is mostly built on
the stenographs of romania's dictator and sole source of power,
decimation: academia has
the power
to insert ideas into
the bureaucratic process
decimation: The media has
the power
to veto
things if
they are able
to make someone look bad
Apocalyptic: herbijudlestoids, was
the bug security-related ?
mircea_popescu: the academia has... you know,
the exact power of romania's "dissident" "inteligentsia"
decimation: Moldbug is more-or-less correct about
the power
that rules
the us; it's
the coordinated actions of
the media, civil service, and academia (and all
their attachments)
decimation: yet
there are
those here who
think
the Constitution operates exactly in
this way
decimation: you wrote a few days ago about
the lunacy of a self-enforcing contract due
to
the context of language
mircea_popescu: decimation hey, in
that sense simply living in
the us is
taking your life in your hands.
decimation: there is a
thing called
the "roth IRA" where you save post-income-tax money; USG claims it will never
tax it again
decimation: like Shylock, bitcoin owners will
take
their pound of flesh when
the
time is right
decimation: true, I guess if
there is 100x growth,
then who cares if
the gov't
takes 10%
davout: mircea_popescu:
the BTC
decimation: I guess
this stems from
the root of
the problem being
that a
tax on bitcoin is retarded
decimation: yeah, but
the way it works in
the us is
that you must have a custodian for your retirement account (tax free accrual)
davout: Apocalyptic: just FTR LW has access
to your EUR data,
they have zero access
to your BTC history and activity
decimation: it seems a different matter
than a
third party keeping your gold, for instance