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asciilifeform: 'yahoo' << 'houyhnhnm' just doesn't have the same ring.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform listen : if coders didn't have to worry about whether THEIR PROGRAM EVEN HALTS
mircea_popescu: In fact there are lots of great reasons for bloatware. For one, if programmers don't have to worry about how large their code is, they can ship it sooner. And that means you get more features, and features make your life better (when you use them) and don't usually hurt (when you don't).
decimation: well, aluminium isn't magnetic right?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo actually, they didn't come up with duralumin
asciilifeform: didn't really shine until aeronautics made folks itch for just it
mircea_popescu: not saying they didn't get very good at it, they did.
asciilifeform: people age, and empires - and the 'computer we know' isn't really a separate animal from the u.s. empire.
asciilifeform: i didn't grok what he said, at the time, naturally
decimation: "But suppose everyone wrote their own subroutines? Isn't that a step backward; away from the millenium when our programs are machine independent, when we all write in the same language, maybe even on the same computer? Let me take a stand: I can't solve the problems of the world. With luck, I can write a good program. "
asciilifeform: and we don't hear from them
asciilifeform: decimation: this sounds like top-grade batshit to 'civilians', who don't normally understand how simple (from algorithmic standpoint) everything they usually want out of the machine, really is
decimation: one wonders what the point of using open source OS's would be if you can't read C
mircea_popescu: decimation you don't understand. for him, matter of life and death. that's how he eats.
mircea_popescu: arguably c doesn't do much to help the programmer not be stupid. then again, it doesn't actually force them to be dumb. sort of like asm, and nobody really hates asm.
mircea_popescu: <TheNewDeal> So I'm reading this conversation about programming languages from 7 days ago (28-10-2014). There is a lot of trash talking about OOPs, like C++. I don't see anyone mention C. Is C just not worth mentioning? <<< c is really not ~that~ bad.
devthedev: thestringpuller: I may just sell it, I don't have as much time as I'd like to devote to it.
thestringpuller: devthedev: didn't you make a news site?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> don't look for the 'incompetent c contest.' it's right there on your desk. << It's everywhere
BingoBoingo: Don't worry everyone has until new years day to learn C and enter
asciilifeform: don't look for the 'incompetent c contest.' it's right there on your desk.
TheNewDeal: So I'm reading this conversation about programming languages from 7 days ago (28-10-2014). There is a lot of trash talking about OOPs, like C++. I don't see anyone mention C. Is C just not worth mentioning?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Worse. Drudge didn't spend the entire 1990's getting merit washed.
decimation: asciilifeform: re: verizon dns << didn't they announce that they would helpfully insert friendly cookies in your http stream?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> such coincidences. << Well, more than even killing Coindesk isn't a point of Qntra ending gawker?
mircea_popescu: <jurov> if i did not set up alarm, wouldn't have noticed <<< i imagine this sounds better in german :D
jurov: if i did not set up alarm, wouldn't have noticed
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu lol i learned it auditorally so spelling wasn't a problem
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu i can spell your name, just can't pronounce it!
mircea_popescu: i still can't.
mircea_popescu: that "put some rope on them, they're imobilized now" convention doesn't really work irl.
mircea_popescu: i don't mean that part.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo i won't say my homework's done just yet
pete_dushenski: the point of this wasn't to pump your fucking tires
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu don't twist my words now
asciilifeform hopes he isn't the only one to get the ref
mircea_popescu: PeterL use example, dude tries to open a door by bashing his head against it. bystander "that's not how you open doors" other bystander to first bystander "you don't understand how the world works!"
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu well if i came back positive in my assessment, i'd send myself down the post-partum path. wasn't really in the mood for that.
mircea_popescu: PeterL it's an expression, referencing the case when putin handed obimbo's butt to him for the nth time and the english propaganda yelled "putin doesn't understand how the world works!"
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski tuna doesn't smell. everything else does.
mircea_popescu: PeterL you don't understand how the world works!
mircea_popescu: tuna doesn't smell like fish!
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform you weren't supposed to read that!
ben_vulpes: w/r/t domain, do you have nameservers
ben_vulpes: it worked so i didn't poke at it further
pete_dushenski: just can't put a face to it
mircea_popescu: which is why the "terrorist" members of the public don't want the government to have "capabilities"
mircea_popescu: the "i don't plan to use the capability" thing makes me wonder : isn't it strange that "infertility" isn't the leading thing in dating sites and comedian's routines re dating sites ?
bounce: I don't *plan* on using that sort of thing, but if I'm building a phone it's gotta have the capability
asciilifeform: i bet they're just dying of boredom. won't somebody help.
bounce: used a faxmodem. good for talking to gov't but also for bypassing phone queues
bounce: those things aren't loss-free
asciilifeform: he can also 'be you' to any moron who isn't asking for pgp sig, and impersonate, and summon gasenwagen, etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: esp. given all the idiot www gadgets that don't use pgp, and allow mail-based pw resets
mircea_popescu: bounce i'd be happy with os stacks that didn't make world depend on internet etc.
bounce: and do a network side that isn't as full of holes as the current crop, and do proper separation, and provide a full off of the wireless side while leaving the other functions available, and so on.
mircea_popescu: bounce aren't phones one of those things you gotta make 1mn units min ?
mircea_popescu: johntraveller one major thing is that qntra doesn't/can't quite follow chinese language news atm. if you can bridge that gap there's glory in there.
asciilifeform: other thing is, when reading his 'i'm a surrender monkey, usg cannot be killed' posts, must remember that he's a 'tenured sea cucumber' in the sense that he keeps a dependopotamus, it birthed children, and he knows he won't be making it out of the gravity pit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform strange that he tried to copy bitcoin but didn't manage to think of the assbot voice.
mircea_popescu: we don't have a plan either. who the fuck needs plans when you got wmd.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform everyone eats what they can. it's just that for a few that doesn't come out of a can.
mircea_popescu: so basically "this" isn't really anything, is it ? random wave at a rave.
mircea_popescu: johntraveller isn't the lesswrong crowd flamingly libtard ?
bounce: looks like the nvidia part isn't the problem, but the intel part is.
bounce hasn't fought with xorg in a long time. not impressed by that bunch though.
asciilifeform: bounce: nope. box with 'nvidia optimus' demented chipset, fed to screen through 'intel i915', that won't initialize.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the age-old mistake of provocateurs - thinking their master's promises are to be kept <<< this, srsly. as all the various prettygirls are to soon find out, their choices aren't exactly what they thought they would be.
mircea_popescu: people worth under a bitcent aren't even worth knowing.
gribble: Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid.
gribble: Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid.
asciilifeform: 'but i didn't sign up to suck cok in the cellar for the whole battalion!'
cazalla: jurov: and it would help to give the context what did you ask <<< i didn't get answers to my questions, we just talked about bitcoin a little
BingoBoingo: cazalla: It won't show the interesting stuff for another 20 hours or so
assbot: So much /Radomysisky news today http://t.co/rwy10OVjGp /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash /hashtag/ButerinsWaterfall?src=hash
asciilifeform: they can spend the rest of the day making tiaras << aren't they already ?
mircea_popescu: open source is for when you know how to code, not for when you can't find a job with any of the closed source sweatshops.
mircea_popescu: directly equivalent to "don't you worry your pretty head, the black holes won't devour your soul along with anything you ever touched."
mircea_popescu: as an aside : socialism, in mathematical terms, is defined as "don't you worry your pretty head, power laws don't exist"
nubbins`: er, wait, isn't it actually .. yeah
mircea_popescu: it's just this thing, a dude that's scared shitless ain't fucking anyone,
nubbins`: "fuck you, ghomeshi, i want to leave" followed by a "fuck me? FUCK YOU" and a throat-slitting probably didn't seem wildly implausible at the time, either
mats_cd03: 'i sucked a dick ... to get outta there ... i didn't like it' -victims
mats_cd03: jian didn't do anything wrong, which is why lucy doesn't matter
The20YearIRCloud: And TV wouldn't lie
The20YearIRCloud: people think they are, but they aren't, it says on the TV show itself that it's a documentary
bounce: the arrester wires aren't that much of a problem. it's the catapult that's a pain to maintain.
mircea_popescu: bounce there are reasons you can't have a decent meal in teh uk.
nubbins`: well y'know. if messy ghomeshi had sense, he wouldn't be in the pickle hes in
bounce: of course some OS on phone. won't function without it.
bounce: cats don't bitch
bounce: they wail but won't
bounce: actually kinda weird. can't cool except move heat away and causing extra heat in the process
nubbins`: half the roads aren't wide enough for cars
mircea_popescu: bounce you don't understand how the building works. if they used stone it'd sink into the ice.
nubbins`: so he removes the deck from the side of the house, pulls it into the middle of the roof, and WALLS OFF THE ENTRANCE so the deck can't be removed
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how the action works.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell enky srsly, "we love bitcoin" "comments are closed" and "don't send donations in BTC that coinbase can't process" on the same page ? what is this!
mircea_popescu: wasn't this supposed to be like all big deal discount "largest sale night of the year" etc ?
mircea_popescu: o shit it's halloween isn't it ?