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mircea_popescu: врагов enemies rather than devils
asciilifeform: some scenes are a little bit stretching historical credibility, like this slave ship loading: http://cs409231.vk.me/v409231196/594d/FWKahJoz4aM.jpg
mircea_popescu: many folks = the anthropologically challenged.
asciilifeform: baldaev got quite a lot of shit for these, many folks insisted that he simply drew his fantasies (during his employment as a prison guard)
asciilifeform: h 'flute', a rolled up tube for the ease of entry of ants. to the legs would be tied a 'spreader stick.' often the executioners were helped by female 'vor' ['thief-in-law'] inmates.'
asciilifeform: 'some demented people in gulag during the years of the cult, for their amusement, would select women from the contigent of 'enemies of the people' and for 'some sin' sit them down upon anthills.' bottom: 'young women who refused to become lovers of their executioners in gulag would be sat upon anthills, tied to trees, 'for the mosquitoes and ants.' sometimes a pipe would be inserted, made from a reed or a birc ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's the caption say ? my russian is too sucky.
mircea_popescu: atm trying to discern if indeed the left side girl in the earlier pic is or only resembles.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: found your dream's woman. (warning to folks with weak nerves - medieval/inquisitory!) http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WPS03cv5PlA/T6QfShY0W6I/AAAAAAAABAE/Ekx87gH6pXA/s1600/BaldaevGulag20_.jpg
mircea_popescu: i wonder if the old "each table has a sucker or it wouldn't be a table. if you don't know who then well..." into a "each escape has its bullocks, and upon the eating of the first one you'll know whether you count with him by whether you're invited to dine."
mircea_popescu: mat stands, of course, for may. rather than cunt.
asciilifeform: never know who the bullock is until, well, bullock time
mircea_popescu: more interesting, how many troops of bullocks successfully took over the escape and ate the smartasses.
asciilifeform: 'convicts, during escapes from far nothern camps of gulag lured with them (due to the impossibility of gathering adequate provisions while imprisoned) other inmates, who would be killed en route. such victims of cannibalism were known in convict argot as 'bullocks.' how many 'bullocks' were eaten up, is unknown.'
mircea_popescu: seems to me more like an import.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re the women specifically, is that nonsense a mainstream representation afayk ?
mircea_popescu: this has got to be marginal, is it ?
mircea_popescu: look at that, the maddona-whore complex, in russian.
asciilifeform: a real hieronymous bosch, this fellow.
asciilifeform: not only tattoos
mircea_popescu: o wait this is the camp guard that documented the tattoos is he ?
asciilifeform: if anybody has a warez copy of the whole 130+ set, drop it here.
mircea_popescu: mebbe i should check out this thing then
asciilifeform: (he is often said to have spiced things up a bit. so take with a grain of salt.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if i recall, one of danzig baldaev's comics had this exact scene in it.
mircea_popescu: the reasoning being that the shit'll dry and that's that.
mircea_popescu: while i slept i dreamt about these two womenz having an argument which ended by leaving the other tied to a tree in the wild somewhere with her rectum stretch-filled with fresh mud.
asciilifeform: i suggest 'teflon' for the case at hand.
mircea_popescu: this is possibly true.
asciilifeform: (unfortunately lack the 'citation needed' here)
asciilifeform: imho gilged stake is too good for these folks.
mircea_popescu: what drakula'd do to the so called "programmers' doing this is left as an exercise to the current voievodes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i never heard of anyone running a current branch of anything that didn't crash.
mike_c: it just doesn't take that much capital to scale to 100k. one good engineer is sufficient given the timeframe.
mircea_popescu: mike_c> (which they had) << this is arguyable. the thing run in the red for most of its lifetime, and in a dubious field. they always had trouble finding investors, and the investors they did find were mostly of the imbecile sort. if you want i can dig up the trilema discussion re investors and why they suck, but you'll end up with more shit to translate as a result.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> or ten others. << ten are better than one. like phone numbers.
mircea_popescu: cads> or has it just fallen into second place << the "it may continue in 2nd place" was april 2013.
asciilifeform: this is a box devoted to running the 'current' branch.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you got some old/bad libraries. i have a reference running since 2011 that never crashed.
asciilifeform: it is very easy to spend MAXINT coin, dollars, walnuts, etc. with no result.
asciilifeform: perhaps btc also knows how to bake cakes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually that'd be duke, dux in the latin space.
asciilifeform: btc can be sent to look for vulns on its own? that's news to me.
mike_c: well, this guy just spent 50 btc looking. he hasn't found it yet :)
mircea_popescu: whether this is like the set who still believes the ufos have landed or moreover like the set that does government's banking is hard to say
mircea_popescu: mike_c there's always been (since inception) a set of people who believed it is thus exploitable.
mircea_popescu: gotta allow at least some of the ingredients' flavour into the finished dish.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform voievode, whats wrong with that ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: little bug closer to home: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2014#511355 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: A bug in Google's Chrome web browser enables malicious websites to activate your microphone and spy on conversations that happen next to your computer, even after you've left the website.
asciilifeform: the other crap aside, a service where you do not get to take btc 'home' at the end of the day ought not to be called a btc exchange.
mike_c: well, i guess i'm saying an exchange defined as "hft enabled" is not necessary. just a place to buy/sell.
jurov: ok, but we were talking about building exchange for 100k chumps
copumpkin: no, as opposed to buy your own coins and sit on them
mike_c: as opposed to gox's "we keep your bitcoin" fee :)
copumpkin: also, those fees are ridiculous
asciilifeform: mike_c: trololol
ozbot: SecondMarket - Simplified Transactions for Private Companies and Funds.
jurov: nto even tourists can use ATMs there last time i heard
jurov: dunno if sovereign changes anything. vatican supposedly has banned all electronic money transfers
asciilifeform: and then 'you can also have problems.'
asciilifeform: i think the implication might have been that 100k users turns you into a 'person of interest' for the vultures
mike_c: well, they had monetary resources. not talent resources.
mike_c: jurov, 0 -> 100k in a few years isn't that hard with appropriate resources (which they had)
asciilifeform: hence the question of whether an honest btc/fiat exchange is possible even in principle, without the cooperation of a sovereign.
jurov: they would still have to deal with banks. and they can be worse than satan.
asciilifeform: when you get 100,000 users, does satan appear before you and command you to 'take the exchange fractional' ?
jurov: i guess much better people than karpeles would get burned
jurov: from 0 to 100000 users in few years?
mike_c: well, it died from incompetence. herds of chumps is the only reason we are talking about them.
asciilifeform: do herds of chumps bring into existence chumpmeisters, or the other way around?
asciilifeform: i'll extend mp's thesis and conjecture that it died from, rather than in spite, of, the mountain of free advertising in u.s. mouthpiece media 'mtgox, the largest exchange, today, ... etc'
jurov: you think anyone here will admit it has something there?
deadweasel: the dodo told everyone it could fly, when in fact it had never even sold a magic card...
asciilifeform: or ten others.
asciilifeform: one chump magnet dies, another takes its place.
mike_c: i think we all do in the same way we had an interest in SR failing. good for btc.
asciilifeform: does anyone here have more than a 'purely zoological' interest in what happens to gox?
cads: this is like a full speed freight train that's been magically teleported 2 miles up into the sky
ThickAsThieves: if you are maybe lucky you can maybe jump out on Thursday
cads: oh, right, that's what 'halted withdrawals' means
mike_c: goxbux are worth less than 0.5 btc now..
cads: hey, so you guys think mt gox has earned too many strikes to keep playing?
cads: Where from? They were pretty good.
cads: hey asciilifeform, so you were translating those stories from earlier?
asciilifeform: that's like welding a torn hair back together. sure, it's possible...
mike_c: you can edit-and-continue with some c++ debuggers. it even works 30% of the time.
mike_c: i'm not going to look at that code anymore because I will have to renege on everything i said the other day and agree that a new reference build is high priority.
mike_c: i mean, you know, if you didn't have anything else to do
mike_c: you have the code though, right? you could build symbols and use them to analyze the dump
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mike_c: do you have symbols? I bet on this line: if (pnode->fDisconnect)
asciilifeform: only got dumps for the last 2 times,
jurov: it is the same address despite there were updates?
mike_c: without having a repo, it doesn't seem hard to crash this if a null node gets in the node vector.
asciilifeform: 3 of these in the past 16 months or so.
jurov: interesting. i never had such crash, and running it 24/7 too
asciilifeform: probably naturally-occurring crash, given as the canary coin that lives on that box is still present.
asciilifeform: in the reference client.