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diana_coman: asciilifeform, I don't know what that would be based on really or why you'd put it in
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i suspect (tho cannot know) that douchebag understood that he was useless , and took refuge in religion. ☟︎
diana_coman: not all that dissimilar
diana_coman: asciilifeform, he had *his* option to be part of tmsr and she had *her* option to be part of it; he did not take it on account of "but I earn money now and I'm building mah future at this great company" ; she took hers discarding the earn money now and this great company
mircea_popescu: "well... it's not broken now, is it" this is how people here repair my cars. "is it ok ?" "sure, nothing's broken RIGHT THIS INSTANT" "this is a german car, that's not what ok is."
mircea_popescu: so in the end, it becomes a dispute over present-value-evaluation. if you have two hats, one of which will break next time you use it, do you have two hats ?
mircea_popescu: "up until that point where you take them to the recycling plant door and one is refused, they're entirely the same thing right, hold fluid"
mircea_popescu: it seems, if one's inclined to generalize, that both sexes of a species are the same species, much like both recyclable and non-recyclable bottles are "bottle", in some sort of sense that doesn't make any sense in examination.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the irritating problem is that while the two characters are fundamentally disimilar, nevertheless there's superficial similarities that rankle. both use a language to communicate what appear to be thoughts, and both can emulate formal logic in their own wetware to reliably come to the same true/false values ☟︎
asciilifeform: 1 was a doomed d00d taking refuge in a peculiar religion ( why not, gotta wonder, islam, at least it promises 40 magical virgins, why usg.sv ) and 1 is chix being reformatted
a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 15:57 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847933 << moreover, the "new life" device is typically female ; perhaps the most widely examined & researched point by humans on earth, there's a fucking reason "marriage" consisted historically and ~universally~ (not counting the moron societies) of exactly this, "Ia-ti mireasa ziua buna, de la tata, de la muma, de la frati, de la surori, de la gradina cu flori" ie "bitch, say your goodbyes
a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 16:05 diana_coman: I'd just put side by side http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847919 with http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-01#1838630 and leave it there for comparison by any interested parties
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847949 << possibly i'm think, but what is comparable here ? the 2 characters dun have same options, as treated at length in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847940 & elsewhere ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: i'd be surprised if 'privkey serum' were not a major research direction for the current mengeles
asciilifeform: usg circa '50s-70s had this peculiar fixation with 'incapacitating agents', to make victim spout nonsense and 'discredit', but afaik came to ~nuffin
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> 1918 technoly lol, potassium chloride. i had an entire box, as a boy, FOR JUST THIS JUST IN CASE!!! << Ah, the old sodium free salt from the grocery store
asciilifeform: ( aside from radionucleic strange, the point of using which largely escapes me, not much changed in poison art since borgias )
mircea_popescu: 1918 technoly lol, potassium chloride. i had an entire box, as a boy, FOR JUST THIS JUST IN CASE!!!
asciilifeform: as for poison, it's 'mature technology', they seem to have no prob 'heart attack'ing whoever.
asciilifeform: word is, one of his guards is already on a plane to promise land miami.
mircea_popescu: hm, alfie, it's not explosive so much as very toxic.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman and consider : she's younger than him.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually they nailed the head of DNR ( counter-ukrs ) coupla days ago in precisely , iirc, this way
a111: Logged on 2018-08-01 03:07 douchebag: Also the security firm I'm working on is expected to pull at least a half million dollars by december
a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 03:19 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847915 >> 'I was in a position in which I enforced company policy, hired, and fired as human resources and now no longer have an office with my name on the wall or any authority; however, I do have a 'cage', collar, and a really cute headband...' >> lol win, oblig >> 'Yea, a trooper of the forces who has run his own six horses!' (tm)(r)(kipling)
diana_coman: I'd just put side by side http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847919 with http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-01#1838630 and leave it there for comparison by any interested parties ☝︎☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, speaking of which, isn't it a wonder all the "secret services assassinations" etc don't involve a simple "replace shower gel with nitrobenzene" ? evidently they can get hotel maids to perjure themselves in the most ridoinculous way possible, why not something incomparably safer ? not like the usual fucktards would ever give up the "conference" life
mircea_popescu: and no, there's nothing wrong with saying "universally, except for the morons". car tanks are universally filled with gasoline (except for the morons -- such as those who try straight toluene, or those al schwartz speaks of, or etcetera -- there's no "consensus" escape from reality, and so in plenty of cases there's no difference between divergence and idiocy)
a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 04:48 trinque: asciilifeform: how many males do you know that'd be a sweaty flaccid mess turning on a dime and dispensing with whatever life, however meaningless, on the spot.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847933 << moreover, the "new life" device is typically female ; perhaps the most widely examined & researched point by humans on earth, there's a fucking reason "marriage" consisted historically and ~universally~ (not counting the moron societies) of exactly this, "Ia-ti mireasa ziua buna, de la tata, de la muma, de la frati, de la surori, de la gradina cu flori" ie "bitch, say your goodbyes ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: mod6: i have not forgotten your item; currently drowning in saecular liquishit, but expecting to get to it today ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 04:48 trinque: asciilifeform: how many males do you know that'd be a sweaty flaccid mess turning on a dime and dispensing with whatever life, however meaningless, on the spot.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847933 << possibly this q is constructed so as to have no answer, but why not try : erry day whole buncha males eat their pistols, given as this is the only 'turnaround and dispensing with whatever life' available to them. ☝︎
nicoleci: thank you, trinque - I am excited :)
trinque: asciilifeform: how many males do you know that'd be a sweaty flaccid mess turning on a dime and dispensing with whatever life, however meaningless, on the spot. ☟︎☟︎
lobbesbot: trinque: Sent 8 hours and 33 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> Secular Texas related question I recieved for your laffs http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/EnsvM/?raw=true
trinque: dunno that I share this static view of humans. gonna be interesting to see what she gets whipped into.
Mocky: ok, word is: no family in the region
mircea_popescu: if they do, it's not apparent.
asciilifeform: i take it they dun waste their time with book-larnin' no moar..
asciilifeform: this was the accountant chix , iirc ?
mircea_popescu: but yes, she's not read nearly enough to be capable of penmanship in anything but the common low style. yet.
mircea_popescu: i am most curious in how time shall grind it.
asciilifeform: well neat, afaik this is the 1st talking seal with blog, at least as the l0gz go
a111: Logged on 2018-09-05 00:48 deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=9 << Bimbo.Club - So what does happen when you drop everything and dedicate your life to serving...
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-05#1847915 >> 'I was in a position in which I enforced company policy, hired, and fired as human resources and now no longer have an office with my name on the wall or any authority; however, I do have a 'cage', collar, and a really cute headband...' >> lol win, oblig >> 'Yea, a trooper of the forces who has run his own six horses!' (tm)(r)(kipling) ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: even the momentarily-still-alive ones are very arguably significant at all.
mircea_popescu: tha fuck does this even mean ? how can it possibly be significant if defunct ?!
mircea_popescu: "Jake Joseph Paul is an American actor and YouTube personality who rose to significant fame on the now-defunct video application Vine. "
deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=9 << Bimbo.Club - So what does happen when you drop everything and dedicate your life to serving... ☟︎
lobbes: also, congrats on joining teh mp-wp-rk club
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-04#1847663 << I just ran top for a bit. Looks like the most mysql ever takes is ~6.6% of memory. fwiw I'm just using httpd (not sure if this would be a factor in mysql memory usage, but only difference I can think of between our LAMPs) ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> I did hear a lot of dutch and german too,that is true; but all the dollar-prices and loads of English spoken and the baked in assumption - American, I don't know << Lots of Germans passed through the hostel (less than Latinos/Brasileros) they speak English because their hollywood ended in 1940s
diana_coman: come to think of it, maybe americans were simply so loud and rather obnoxious that they were more visible, huh; doing some counting here I remember there was even a rather large group of ...italians, lol
asciilifeform: they are quite similar, imho. usa has moar 'advanced' republikflucht-prevention than ye olde su, is all
diana_coman: it's unclear to me only if the similarity goes that far since at least in RO people *wanted* passport or afaik many americans don't see /conceive/think of the need for passport, so possible one up
asciilifeform: ( literally, they can't be arsed to pay the 100bux + the photographer's 10. because they can't picture 'where to go, why' )
asciilifeform: i aint speaking of the mexicans, either
asciilifeform: diana_coman: dunno whether you knew, but in usa there is ~substantial~ population of folx who... haven't a passport.
diana_coman: I did hear a lot of dutch and german too,that is true; but all the dollar-prices and loads of English spoken and the baked in assumption - American, I don't know
asciilifeform: and they spend it with the bottle, in milwaukee, with 'fambly'
asciilifeform: americans , as whole, dun tourist so much, they get, what, 1wk of time off / yr
mircea_popescu: most tourists are really pan-german
diana_coman: asciilifeform, their contact is "tourists are american and give us lots of money" from what I can tell
asciilifeform: i'd've naively imagined they have enuff contact with usg escapees, to know what it is
mircea_popescu: imagine the reasoning of little girl, "mommy, mommy, isn't my skirt much better now, i put some mud on it"
asciilifeform: or speaking moar generally of the infectious prion.
asciilifeform: it was usg that forbade rubber ball ?
mircea_popescu: if they were rid of the moronic usgistani monkeys on their back, they'd be truly happy people.
diana_coman: child had a small ball and apparently there was a rule that no balls allowed in park; so before we even got to the gate, one guard was trying to convince me to hide the ball in a jacket (I had no idea wtf for, it made sense only on hindsight); at the "control" I simply said that ball stays in backpack so it's not a problem and they ..were fine with that
diana_coman: asciilifeform, they have laws and rules but basically they don't really apply them , at least not in the manner you think of "apply"
mircea_popescu: diana_coman well, you didn't ~make them~.
diana_coman: o.O what, I broke the law by wearing leather shoes and sandals??
asciilifeform: srsly? this is even moar oddball than usa
diana_coman: the "kind" people who "won't kill" I guess; I really don't have any other explanation for that shit
asciilifeform: diana_coman: holy fuq, who the fuck chains up a crocodile. why not humanely put a 12ga to its head, omfg
mircea_popescu: the french used the beetle.
mircea_popescu: byzantium was both richer and larger than rome throughout the entire xtian period
asciilifeform: i thought they had switched to ersatz , with fall of rome ( vermillion ? )
mircea_popescu: nah, they kept doing it for centuries after.
asciilifeform: it went away with the eastern rome.
asciilifeform: afaik byzantine never once could afford to make even 1 purple robe with snail.
mircea_popescu: after the western world brought the benefits of democracy to the byzantines, the latter also stopped using it.
asciilifeform: made with orig method, was most expensive manufactured substance known at the time, afaik
asciilifeform: ( possibly for this reason ? )
asciilifeform: this 'feature' appears to be missing from the synthetic variant..
mircea_popescu: "stench as lasting as the color" says the ancient source.
mircea_popescu: the colored clothes themselves.
asciilifeform: ( where you had to ferment the snails )
asciilifeform: but not product, but the manufacture process
mircea_popescu: "man took up dyeing":
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform smelled such that it was specifically a cause of divorce among the jews
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lulzily, modern chemists found that it... semiconducts
asciilifeform: i dun think the finished product had a smell
mircea_popescu: you want to stink like a fishwife ?
mircea_popescu: which one is this ?
asciilifeform: porphyrogenita << i still find the 'snailcoin' interesting
mircea_popescu: (and since we're doing notes : anna porphyrogenita has an ancient name, which approximately meant the same as "comely". Ἄννα Κομνηνή, anna the comely. looks nothing like noether!)
mircea_popescu: (coluccio salutati, by any accounts the man that made it work, a http://trilema.com/2014/fred-quimby-and-ancient-evils/ character brought manuel chrysoloras to florence, and thereby aristotle could be read for the first time in greek, rather than in arabic)
mircea_popescu: special greek teacher had to be imported, and was the only and first one in century+