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jurov: benkay, free money as i said
rikur: tiberiusiv: I have absolutely no diea, since they will actually register you as a real shareholder of the canadian company (if you want).
ThickAsThieves: they buy fiat, as it were
gribble: You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX
gribble: You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX
gribble: Nick 'Josh_Rossi', with hostmask 'Josh_Rossi!Josh_Rossi@cpe-68-174-114-54.nyc.res.rr.com', is identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX
gribble: You are identified as user Josh_Rossi, with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX
Josh_Rossi: they say you are twice as likely to be hit by a car in a crosswalk vs jaywalking
Josh_Rossi: because i don't think necessarily that it matters what risks you are taking as long as you are aware you are taking them and honest about them
Josh_Rossi: i am working on an executive summary and i am going to phrase that scenario as "regulatory force majeur"
MJR_: as soon as my business gets our slightly smoking dragon certification
MJR_: I don't see it as dirty
smickles: as if i know how good a pw he has
smickles: at the least, i saw it as a bad risk to lay down money on production and then get a c&d
kakobrekla: so its not showing 30 as top
mircea_popescu: "with opportunity to continue growing rapidly as more Canadians learns about the Bitcoin"
unbalanced: They're pretty far along that as far as payment processing / licensing
MJR_: as this half is profit
MJR_: but if you view the global economy as all the stuff and hours in the world
smickles: if i lend 1 btc to a person with good enough credit in the community, i can treat the owenership of that loan as money (about equal to 1 btc)
MJR_: so...viewing "money" as assets
MJR_: as far as hiring, not yet, hopefully soon?
the-bucket-shop: this is the third time they've run out as far as I know.
mircea_popescu: "Internet tax supporters are hoping that a vote in the U.S. Senate as early as today will finally give them enough political leverage to require Americans to pay sales taxes when shopping online.
mircea_popescu: since most take the fiat first as a precaution there's unwanted short interest created in large volumes all the time
jurov: zactly as it says on title.
Bowjob: a vacation.. they already did so much.. might as well finish the damn job
jurov: i wholeheartedly support avalon/bfl. as long as they cause interest in difficulty futures, which difficulty then fails to materialize
mircea_popescu: i think i have bitcoin's funniest inbox. i say so. people more tortured than me show me snippets from their ticket systems such as "hi, how do i transfer this to silkroad?"
Bowjob: i watched him as i walked upstairs, didnt go to the a&w closeby
mircea_popescu: but as long as you talk in the market you're participating to the public discussion.
midnightmagic: lol, I'm apparently important enough to misquote and reputationally impugn twice as retaliation for not being part of your echo chamber.
midnightmagic: Moving on, if and when there is in fact evidence that ngzhang is acting unethically (I do not view a price increase on its own as unethical) I will be happy to eat my own words.
midnightmagic: It almost seems as though you have misinterpreted your own assertions.
mircea_popescu: turns out it's about as unexpected as it gets ?
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic i have no idea about chinese law. my judgement as to ethics is based on my space, not theirs.
mircea_popescu: actually, if bfl delivering weren't such a moot point, i'd be collecting these rights as we speak and sueingthem into oblivion anyway
mircea_popescu: point 3 : any capital transfer with a view of a common enterprise is an equity buy, entitling the payer to a stake in the common enterprise, as agreed
midnightmagic: kakobrekla: I am aware that this channel was made a publically-logged channel (but not in the topic) as a top-down directive because you are in the #bitcoin-* namespace.
kakobrekla: as you join
mircea_popescu: becaue of this, any purported sale of inexistant mining equipment is to be quashed as such.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Primarily, you have said that the b3 update shows they are unethical. So far you have said "they took preorder money" and "they mined prior to sale" as your claims for this to be so. Anything else?
mircea_popescu: no piece of hardware i ever bought as new came with dust in it.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: If that is, indeed, what he's done, that sucks. I don't see any evidence for them mining their own hardware (difficulty spiked only on delivery as per users self-reporting,) but then you tend to jump to conclusions a lot (as per your assertion that gmaxwell wanted to steal rich peoples' money, because you didn't grok multisig, for example,) so why let the lack of facts get in the way this time?
mircea_popescu: well pigeons, something like this basically : "Avalon took interest-free fiat-denominated loans from silly white westerner peoples, built their rigs, used them to mine a little (as people were reporting dust inside their units upon delivery) and eventually decided to not deliver at all anymore, just keep the miners and mine for themselves."
mircea_popescu: so you still view him as "one of the most ethical businesspeople I’ve seen in a long time" ?
pigeons: "You strike me as someone who has the sight. So. Buy a little today, buy a little tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: This is working as of March 19th 2013 and if you wish to double you can simply send any whole amount to bitcoin address:
Diablo-D3: like, as an RSS feed
Luke-Jr: ThickAsThieves: whatever the DMC shares count as
Luke-Jr: pigeons: as long as he's not driving
pigeons: so is josh actually pleasant in "real life" as alleged?
[\\\]: as in the bitcoin usagi?
pigeons: as soon as the bet is high enough [\\\] pays the gov agent bribe
kakobrekla: wiki is almost as stupid as bible didnt ya know
mircea_popescu: if things go about as planned should be early to mid next week
smickles: or that jesus left his foreskin on saturn as the rings
smickles: Luke-Jr: do you believe that jesus gave that one saint his foreskin as a wedding ring?
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 also known as the not true catholic phallacy.
mircea_popescu: a wink is as good as a whistle to a blind bat.
smickles: also, kcmo isn't as good a kck
mircea_popescu: of course simple idiopathic schizophrenia always works as an explanation too. it doesn't have to be drugs.
tiberiusiv: well they used BTC as a medium of exchange
mircea_popescu: as in, shorted puts, price collapsed, covered same day
pizzaman1337: mircea_popescu: maybe I'm not interpreting this correctly, but from stat: "To which add sums deposited as surety for 4th Friday settled option and future contracts"
tiberiusiv: namworld: you are so full of it im not going to continue, the government in canada classifies anyone under 22k a year as poverty
tiberiusiv: canadian government classifies under 24k a year income as poverty
mircea_popescu: each oix weighs approximately the same as a sheep.
mircea_popescu: tiberiusiv suppose the us fucks up. such as, california actually defaults.
mircea_popescu: he may still solve the problem by proxiing as he's trying, but it'll be more work needed
pizzaman1337: mircea_popescu: when I do that, should they be removed from the "To which add sums deposited as surety for 4th Friday settled option and future contracts" section?
benkay: probably not as smart as a new york whore
dub: as a core developer, i look upon all Avalons as my son. i will send them to who believe us, not the faithless or buzzard.
mircea_popescu: tomorrow you figure since you're dipping anyway might as well keep it all.
benkay: at first, I read that as "I am getting crunk with my floor, guys"
benkay: dunno if that counts as an 'asset' anymore.
[\\\]: smickles, decimals are magic.. you can add as many as you want after the decimal
[\\\]: Jesus, might as well make a baby.
smickles: "Earn Bitcoin at the First Business Opportunity using Bitcoin as primary currency." lolwut?
mircea_popescu: nefario is this chav that figured he's seen some bankers on tv so he's just as good.
benkay: being of sound mind and body, i'm converting my fiat as fast as i can, and spending the rest
gribble: Nick 'topace', with hostmask 'topace!~kvirc@unaffiliated/topace', is identified as user topace, with GPG key id A49472A32D4FCE50, key fingerprint 08AEAC40F3086E6131B39762A49472A32D4FCE50, and bitcoin address None
pigeons: benkay: i disagree as does the founder of the web of trust
Bowjob: winter is just.. idk lol. not as cold
Chaang-Noi: this bot is slow as fuck
kakobrekla: i interpret it as "im being honest here"
ThickAsThieves: "'m hugely excited to announce to you that CoinLab will be teaming up with Mt. Gox and Silicon Valley Bank to provide Bitcoin purchase, sale and exchange services to customers in the U.S and Canada as of March 31, 2013."
mircea_popescu: "- Of course the above would be moot if the spread was sky-high. We intend to push it as low as possible, and give you the best of both worlds - the liquidity of a market-maker but also the low spreads possible in a parimutuel or similar approach."
mjr_: otherwise known as the slot machines of finance
mircea_popescu: "If anyone is interested in buying securities that copy the MPEx dividend payouts but do not involve any dealings with the actual MPEx shares (such as share loans, etc.), PM me. About 1 million will be issued if there is demand. If issued, the securities will be backed by an incorporated company with EUR 200,000 total assets, of which 1500 BTC."
Namworld: But difficulty should probably cap as to avoid ever lowering odds and never reaching jackpot.
Diablo-D3: fine, have the difficulty go up as the pot goes up
Diablo-D3: [04:06:38] <Diablo-D3> 184 billion is if I set the difficulty as high as possible
Diablo-D3: 184 billion is if I set the difficulty as high as possible
Namworld: You could bet all freaking 21 BTC and have as good as null chances to win the jackpot...
Diablo-D3: Namworld: I mean as in 1:1trillion per 1 BTC
Chaang-Noi: ill get an ssd i guess, hell i might as well by a new laptop
Diablo-D3: so I assume mint can as well
Diablo-D3: and ZoL doesnt do encryption yet (and you need ubuntu to boot ZoL as well)
Diablo-D3: Chaang-Noi: then you're already going as fast as you can