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jurov: they can
then easily migrate
to using cardano
jurov: i don't believe anything more is achievable while providing srvice
to chumps
jurov: and use it
to auth
to
the service and verify sensitive data it got back
jurov: but what i want
to discuss, if we all can force users
to install gpg browser plugin
jurov: it's sufficient if
the sensitive server has minimal interface exposed
to frontend and does not implicitly
trust it
jurov: i don't
think it's absolutely necessary consequence
davout: asynchronicity is merely a consequence of "the frontend doesn't know shit about where
the sensitive server is"
davout: the best way
to design security is IMHO
to consider
that you're already compromised, at least
to some extent
davout: because if you work from
the assumption
that no frontend/app server will ever be compromised you're in for a world of pain
davout: that protects you against a compromised server
too
davout: the GPG-signature and address generation can't happen on
the web facing servers
jurov: you need
to generate deposit addy asynchronously?
davout: jurov:
the problem with showing
the GPG data in browser is
that said data would be generated asynchronously
jurov: if it is sound project, maybe everyone at #assets can push it for
their projects
jurov: triyng
to develop it would prolly be best way
to let nsa goons
to identify
themselves :D
jurov: pity
there isn't a plugin
that can verify it,
tho
jurov: you can show gpg signed output in browser,
too
davout: imma replace bitcoin addresses displayed on
the website by gpg-signed e-mail receipts for example
davout: maybe i'll end up using
them if i can make sure nothing sensitive goes
thru
davout: i
think an e-mail MPEX-like API would be good
davout: last
time i got DDoS'd i set up a different IP, and sent it
to customers
that asked for it
davout: i'll have
to eventually figure something out
davout: jurov: i'm used
to ozbot fetching
the <title>, doesn't really matter :-)
ThickAsThieves: gmaxwell: wumpus: yea, I understand
they had
timed automatic reissues... :(
this was also something I didn't know prior
to monday before last and is one of
the other reasons my "they couldn't have lost much!" position softened
to "I have no freeking clue."
☟︎ KRS-One: He should just send
the 5000 euros
to me, at least I'll send him an autographed nudic pic back for his
troubles.
KRS-One: <cokea> I AM SENDING 5000 EUROS
TO MTGOX LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
gribble: Bitstamp | A market order
to sell 40000 bitcoins right now would net 13173637.7416 USD and would
take
the last price down
to 100.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 329.3409 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0292 seconds
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD
ticker | Best bid: 575.0, Best ask: 575.79, Bid-ask spread: 0.79000, Last
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mircea_popescu: there's a coupla bn in 2015 notes
that are being written off.
Duffer1: i have been unable
to locate such
Duffer1: has
there been any b-a discussion of kurzweil or singularity?
Vexual: hey bugpowder, do yo uthink you can sell fireants with double
testosterone
to
the ethical standards comitte?
Vexual: i ypothesise
that you can't put
too many ants into a colony, something normal will happen
Vexual: worldpop was smaller
then mircea, it's all skinny jeans now
Vexual: no more factories, but heres a
tablet app
Vexual: either way its prolly closer
to 500m
than 0 in a sense
mircea_popescu: was geared
towards college kids originally, so prolly plenty.
greenspan_fan: I was
thinking more "users"
to inflate
their statistics
Vexual: how long has facebook been a
thing?
mircea_popescu: well, most parents have
this experience. whereby angry 5 yo
threatens
to hold his breath
to death.
greenspan_fan: mircea_popescu as a means of exchange, all
those
things are valuable
though, and most easily attacked
Vexual: whats
that when its a sentence?
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan sure, it is really elegant, but not for
those reasons.
Vexual: satoshi designed it
that gox might imrove
the philosophy
jurov: lol, like some fb derp wrote just hour ago
that mtgox failure is "damaging bitcoin philosophy"
mircea_popescu: bitcoin has
terrible overhead and it is without a doubt
the klunkiest, most ineffectual way
to
transmit payments ever devised
greenspan_fan: by valuable aspects I meant
things like consistent network performance, ease of exchange, ease of adoption
jurov: "subversion of
the valuable aspects of bitcoin"
jurov: not seeing an upside is different
thing
than
greenspan_fan: I just don't really see an upside
to
tedious interference by lansky et. al.
Vexual: todays fish is
trout a la creme
mircea_popescu: "life is on
the wire. everything else's just waiting."
greenspan_fan: just
that my preference would be
to avoid
the struggle
mircea_popescu: and we'd use it better
than
them, so overal...
thanks for
the fishes.
mircea_popescu: jurov here's
the funny
thing on
top of it : if
the us actually DID
try
to build something, like a superadvanced asic design ? we'd get it for free in
the next leak bundle.
mircea_popescu: thigns have changed. we have a real republic and a real bitcoin now, which leaves
the us back among its peers.
jurov: greenspan_fan: anyway, what you suggest is *not* about building something, but
the exact opposite
mircea_popescu: anyway : back
then
the most serene republica veneta was
the us. much in
the sense of how back
then
the bitcoin of
the world was
the usd.
mircea_popescu: you know
this was a majorly discussed
topic recently hiar.
greenspan_fan: thousands of supremely bright, capable people, managed by
the army, built an atomic bomb in like
three years
greenspan_fan: as a (possibly out of date) counter example, I could point
to
the manhattan project
mircea_popescu: and your shitty empire
trying
to infiltrate it will pay
through
the
teeth for no results at all.
greenspan_fan: a few posters of rosie
the solderer and voila, you've got your asics
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan
technical
talent DOES respond
to patriotism much more
than
to money.
greenspan_fan: plus, you're assuming
that
technical
talent doesn't respond
to
things like patriotism
greenspan_fan: if you model leaks as a poisson process,
they're actually pretty air-tight
mircea_popescu: they'd hire some people who wouldn't be spilling
their beans each year.
mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan if
the nsa, intel, whomever actually could hire more people
jurov: greenspan_fan: you imagine
tsmc can and will reject all orders for 2 month or so just cause usg drops a billion?
mircea_popescu: you're desperate
to spend it, and
the people you need
to do
things aren't desperate
to get it.
greenspan_fan: as long as you spend it before
the ponzi implodes you're in
the clear, no?